Classic JB, always throwing in the higher draft pick...
- WhiteLie

The guy he really wants is always overlooked and available in the later round anyways.

However in this case the deal boils down to Hamhuis & Vrbata plus a 6th for Duchene. Their 7th was for our Garage Sale 7. Seems fair.

The guy he really wants is always overlooked and available in the later round anyways.

However in this case the deal boils down to Hamhuis & Vrbata plus a 6th for Duchene. Their 7th was for our Garage Sale 7. Seems fair.
- YeOldTimer

well when you put it that way...

I am going to throw my two cents in on this. I don't like what Henrik did, a captain should call guys out in the room, and in private, and that's it. I believe he's frustrated but I like what someone said about Jake as a 19 year old being one of the guys who actually stands up for team mates this year. Is it really a good idea to publicly call out that guy? He's young take him aside and talk to him. I truly believe that once Bo takes over as captain this team will take on a different identity. I am a strong believer that Canadian captains make the best leaders, look no further than Chicago. I am not saying that there aren't exceptions but (Brown-LA,Chara-Bos) But the best leader in hockey is Toews. I think the room is a bit topsy-turvy now because it is in transition from the current to the young leaders. Horvat, Hutton, Baertschi, Markstrom they are asserting themselves and it's creating some tension. Nothing to really worry about I think just the natural evolution of the next leadership group.

I am going to throw my two cents in on this. I don't like what Henrik did, a captain should call guys out in the room, and in private, and that's it. I believe he's frustrated but I like what someone said about Jake as a 19 year old being one of the guys who actually stands up for team mates this year. Is it really a good idea to publicly call out that guy? He's young take him aside and talk to him. I truly believe that once Bo takes over as captain this team will take on a different identity. I am a strong believer that Canadian captains make the best leaders, look no further than Chicago. I am not saying that there aren't exceptions but (Brown-LA,Chara-Bos) But the best leader in hockey is Toews. I think the room is a bit topsy-turvy now because it is in transition from the current to the young leaders. Horvat, Hutton, Baertschi, Markstrom they are asserting themselves and it's creating some tension. Nothing to really worry about I think just the natural evolution of the next leadership group.
- Nucknab23

I tend to agree...Henrik should keep it in the room. Mccan and Virt are taking a lot of heat but they have shown more push back than most of the veterans this year. Jake may have a bit of a bad attitude but at least he isn't a raging wussy like most on this team

JJ over at the Hawks blog has been pretty high on Dale Weise, unlike the experts in here who refuse to acknowledge Dale's utility, and here's his latest vote of confidence for him...

A couple of things happened at the trade deadline and since that give reason for hope—the acquisitons of Andrew Ladd, Tomas Fleischmann and Dale Weise—all of whom are to varying degrees useful, veteran players... All of these acquisitions should make the Hawks a tougher team to play against—and in theory, better 5-on-5 and short-handed.

Feelings. Nothing more than feelings.

I am going to throw my two cents in on this. I don't like what Henrik did, a captain should call guys out in the room, and in private, and that's it. I believe he's frustrated but I like what someone said about Jake as a 19 year old being one of the guys who actually stands up for team mates this year. Is it really a good idea to publicly call out that guy? He's young take him aside and talk to him. I truly believe that once Bo takes over as captain this team will take on a different identity. I am a strong believer that Canadian captains make the best leaders, look no further than Chicago. I am not saying that there aren't exceptions but (Brown-LA,Chara-Bos) But the best leader in hockey is Toews. I think the room is a bit topsy-turvy now because it is in transition from the current to the young leaders. Horvat, Hutton, Baertschi, Markstrom they are asserting themselves and it's creating some tension. Nothing to really worry about I think just the natural evolution of the next leadership group.
- Nucknab23

I have to disagree with your sentiment a little bit. Sure Toews is considered a really good leader and if Bo can emulate him, the Canucks would be good for it. I just dont see how Henrik, Bo or Toews has anything to do with leadership. Toews being on Chicago doesnt stop Kane or Keith from being d-bags, nor did it stop from the wife-swap controversy from leaking out of the room. Those guys still put in the work and play a complete game. JV is not anywhere near that level to earn any slack. The Canucks kept Kassian's secret in the room and it did nothing to resolve the issue on or off the ice.

Naturally, you want to keep all problems internal, but Henrik's comments about the hit weren't malicious or earth-shattering and has been overblown by comments that (I hope) don't reflect a strife between Jake and the vets

JJ over at the Hawks blog has been pretty high on Dale Weise, unlike the experts in here who refuse to acknowledge Dale's utility, and here's his latest vote of confidence for him...
- kaptaan

JJ over at the Hawks blog has been pretty high on Dale Weise, unlike the experts in here who refuse to acknowledge Dale's utility, and here's his latest vote of confidence for him...
- kaptaan

JJ over at the Hawks blog has been pretty high on Dale Weise, unlike the experts in here who refuse to acknowledge Dale's utility, and here's his latest vote of confidence for him...
- kaptaan

He doesn't really say much in this quote...what are his stats since moving over? I never liked weise but I will acknowledge that he isn't useless.

He doesn't really say much in this quote...what are his stats since moving over? I never liked weise but I will acknowledge that he isn't useless.
- CanuckDon

That will work on his resume.

JJ over at the Hawks blog has been pretty high on Dale Weise, unlike the experts in here who refuse to acknowledge Dale's utility, and here's his latest vote of confidence for him...
- kaptaan

I don't really remember anyone saying Weise was useless. He played his role when he was on the canucks.

He doesn't really say much in this quote...what are his stats since moving over? I never liked weise but I will acknowledge that he isn't useless.
- CanuckDon

he's talked before about Weise being able to provide some grit and offense in other blogs.. just thought i'd point out that I'm not the only one who thinks Dale is a pretty useful player.

I don't really remember anyone saying Weise was useless. He played his role when he was on the canucks.
- SRam19

Dale didn't get a fair shot with the Nux imo.

Hank : The hit was late

JV : thanks for having my back chump

Vantel: probably more than meets the eye


10 pages later.

Welcome to HB
- VANTEL

funny how it is sometimes here ....remember 40 games back when I suggested JV wasnt that well liked by teammates? He was demoted to minors, then immediately loaned to juniors, then speculation he'd be sent to junior.... yet that was criticized. even laughed at. Now look, 6 pages on it.

Dale didn't get a fair shot with the Nux imo.
- kaptaan

I can agree, but torts the tormenter did come and ruin him for us.

he's talked before about Weise being able to provide some grit and offense in other blogs.. just thought i'd point out that I'm not the only one who thinks Dale is a pretty useful player.
- kaptaan

The role of the fourth line has changed in the last 3 years . It has gone from a Sestito type roll to a Dorsett type role now

funny how it is sometimes here ....remember 40 games back when I suggested JV wasnt that well liked by teammates? He was demoted to minors, then immediately loaned to juniors, then speculation he'd be sent to junior.... yet that was criticized. even laughed at. Now look, 6 pages on it.
- SMBDragon

I have a hard time remembering 4 games back.

The role of the fourth line has changed in the last 3 years . It has gone from a Sestito type roll to a Dorsett type role now
- VANTEL

Hopefully it will continue to go, we can use an upgrade on Dorsett.

I have a hard time remembering 4 games back.
- golfingsince

hungover still??

Im a bit dead from weekend myself lol

Hopefully it will continue to go, we can use an upgrade on Dorsett.
- Makita

I dont have an issue with dorsett. Hes a role player and does his job decently. Sometimes scores some timely goals. Not sure what people expect there....

funny how it is sometimes here ....remember 40 games back when I suggested JV wasnt that well liked by teammates? He was demoted to minors, then immediately loaned to juniors, then speculation he'd be sent to junior.... yet that was criticized. even laughed at. Now look, 6 pages on it.
- SMBDragon

You were criticized because you were making things up. He wasn't demoted! A conditioning stint coming off injury is a pretty common tool to get a young player some additional ice time. He was loaned to junior because the Canucks thought it would be good for his development. The way the vets supported him after returning indicates to me that they do like him. Again, you were speculating and passing off your opinion as fact like you are again

hungover still??

Im a bit dead from weekend myself lol
- SMBDragon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9mzLR_Qmy4

Let's get back on track here boys, Go Columbus!

I am going to throw my two cents in on this. I don't like what Henrik did, a captain should call guys out in the room, and in private, and that's it. I believe he's frustrated but I like what someone said about Jake as a 19 year old being one of the guys who actually stands up for team mates this year. Is it really a good idea to publicly call out that guy? He's young take him aside and talk to him. I truly believe that once Bo takes over as captain this team will take on a different identity. I am a strong believer that Canadian captains make the best leaders, look no further than Chicago. I am not saying that there aren't exceptions but (Brown-LA,Chara-Bos) But the best leader in hockey is Toews. I think the room is a bit topsy-turvy now because it is in transition from the current to the young leaders. Horvat, Hutton, Baertschi, Markstrom they are asserting themselves and it's creating some tension. Nothing to really worry about I think just the natural evolution of the next leadership group.
- Nucknab23

How do you know they haven't tried to keep it in house on other past issues and felt that the message didn't seem to be getting through? We don't know. And it's not like his comments were all that controversial either. As a point of controversy I agree with others here that it's been overblown.

As for Toews, I'm not convinced he's such a great leader. I think he's lucky he's skilled enough to live up to his arrogance. Also, the guys he's surrounded by make it easy for him to be a winner. Once that franchise starts slipping due to the age of their core, you're going to see some pretty interesting inner turmoil in that room.