Thanks for jumping all over my opinion.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Actually, that's what you did. I've just asked you not to comment on my posts for that reason, because if you don't actually want to have a thoughtful debate about it then what's the point of you chiming in?

The difference is insulting people, everyone chiming in not with opinions or thoughts but with insults and bullpoop. Kind of reminds me of high school sometimes on here: it's not just one goof, his little minions have got to chirp in their two-cents, that jumping on people's opinions. Arguing an opinion means your bringing up points and counter points, drawing on facts and citing professional knowledge to support your opinion or point of disagreement.
- neem55

Thanks for jumping all over my opinion.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I agree with you, minion.

Trevor Linden says other wise and I'm sure quite a few Canuck players from those years would agree.
- Marwood

They tore the C from his chest and then traded him out of town.

Trevor Linden says other wise and I'm sure quite a few Canuck players from those years would agree.
- Marwood

Right, well he played for two other teams that won and he was the captain of those teams. 6 cups. Now they have a trophy named after him to award people for leadership. I don't like Messier, but reality is that he lead his teams really effectively (except in Van, as we all know too well).

They tore the C from his chest and then traded him out of town.
- A_SteamingLombardi

That's what makes Messier such a great leader. That and taking Maki's retired number.

Messier was an ass. He would sucker punch you, cross check you across the face or attack you when you are down like he did to Linden in game 6.

Being an idiot and a bully doesn't make you a great leader. Marchand won a cup and he is an ass also , as is C.Lemiux and Cooke

Actually, that's what you did. I've just asked you not to comment on my posts for that reason, because if you don't actually want to have a thoughtful debate about it then what's the point of you chiming in?
- neem55

All I said was "Ask Linden" I didn't realize it was attacking your opinion, you are the one who responded to it with a paragraph about how many people think Messier is a great leader, and I don't care what others said or think I was referring to Linden and your response to that was "I don't have his number"

Why don't you just ignore me.

Messier was an ass. He would sucker punch you, cross check you across the face or attack you when you are down like he did to Linden in game 6.

Being an idiot and a bully doesn't make you a great leader. Marchand won a cup and he is an ass also , as is C.Lemiux and Cooke
- VANTEL

What does?

What does?
- neem55

Toews has 3 cups if you are using that as a measure.

Toews has 3 cups if you are using that as a measure.
- Marwood

I think him getting chosen to wear a letter for team Canada speaks to that ability too. But yes, I think if you're wearing a C when your team has won multiple cups, you're likely doing something right in the dressing room.

Toews has 3 cups if you are using that as a measure.
- Marwood

Sakic
Gretzky
Gainey

What does?
- neem55

Feelings


I have worked for some great bosses who lead with respect.

I have also worked for bully bumholes.

Leaders can make you want to work with them , bullies don't. They will get results but it is not being a great leader.

Jake does have a point though, Henrik could of just said he never saw the hint and left it there, doesnt matter on age you expect your teamates to have your back
- phyllee

Thats not the Sedin way. They are honest and respectful. Quite frankly I would have said the same thing. Virtanens young. I get that. But dont be so smug at that age talking about your Captains remarks when it comes to something insanely stupid you did.

Thats not the Sedin way. They are honest and respectful. Quite frankly I would have said the same thing. Virtanens young. I get that. But dont be so smug at that age talking about your Captains remarks when it comes to something insanely stupid you did.
- vancity787

Yeah, statements are nothing actions are everything

I think him getting chosen to wear a letter for team Canada speaks to that ability too. But yes, I think if you're wearing a C when your team has won multiple cups, you're likely doing something right in the dressing room.
- neem55

Feelings


I have worked for some great bosses who lead with respect.

I have also worked for bully bumholes.

Leaders can make you want to work with them , bullies don't. They will get results but it is not being a great leader.
- VANTEL

Messier without a great team behind him was just another great player except here.
Always thought he was an arrogant idiot or if wrong why is he not a GM or coach anywhere? He was a waste of money here with his overrated hype of greatness.
Him having a hand in trading TL along with Keenan did get us Bertuzzi & the Sedins eventually. Thats all he contributed here.
It was Leetch & Richter who beat us in '94 not Messier.

Now on to all these ppl claiming to be in the locker room & knowing all...
Spare us with your tabloid material & leave it for the Pratts etc.
Opinions r one thing & guessing a whole other matter.

Looks like baseball will turn into the hockey game . Anyone know what channel the game will be on Shaw

Looks like baseball will turn into the hockey game . Anyone know what channel the game will be on Shaw
- VANTEL

Flagged for calling baseball a game, it's a past time like knitting.

Flagged for calling baseball a game, it's a past time like knitting.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Found it 302

Columbus should have to give us their 2nd round pick just because they suck so bad this year.

They tore the C from his chest and then traded him out of town.
- A_SteamingLombardi

What a trade!

By far Keenan's finest hour in Vancouver.

OK time to bring the whining COB back to their regular feeding grounds......EDLER!!

Messier without a great team behind him was just another great player except here.
Always thought he was an arrogant idiot or if wrong why is he not a GM or coach anywhere? He was a waste of money here with his overrated hype of greatness.
Him having a hand in trading TL along with Keenan did get us Bertuzzi & the Sedins eventually. Thats all he contributed here.
It was Leetch & Richter who beat us in '94 not Messier.

Now on to all these ppl claiming to be in the locker room & knowing all...
Spare us with your tabloid material & leave it for the Pratts etc.
Opinions r one thing & guessing a whole other matter.
- Nighthawk

Down 3–2 in the 1994 Eastern Conference Finals against the rival New Jersey Devils, Messier confronted the New York media and publicly guaranteed a Game 6 victory. With fans and players on both sides reading the news headline, it then became a feat comparable to Babe Ruth's called shot and Joe Namath's Super Bowl III guarantee, and he backed it up by scoring a natural hat trick in the third period on an empty net goal with ESPN commentator Gary Thorne boasting, "Do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game six and he has just picked up the hat trick!" It helped the Rangers erase a two-goal deficit. The Rangers went on to win the series in a thrilling seventh game double overtime nail biter.

That was pretty (frank)ing impressive.