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BREAKING: Appeals court reinstates New England Patriots Tom Brady's #Deflategate suspension

http://www.firstcoastnews...stated-by-court/152825026

lol

I don't know how this will work, i'm bad at math
- SABRES 89

I'm good at math and I still don't (frank)ing get it.

I'm good at math and I still don't (frank)ing get it.
- TheSabresTaco

I don't either but we will soon find out.

He should be wearing the A now IMO, good D man and no, he won't traded.
- SABRES 89

He is a solid #3 D-man. Can play on the top line in a pinch, but shouldn't be there long term unless he improves a touch more.

Reuters Sports
‏@ReutersSports
BREAKING: Appeals court reinstates New England Patriots Tom Brady's #Deflategate suspension

http://www.firstcoastnews...stated-by-court/152825026

lol
- TheSabresTaco

This is becoming a joke

Reuters Sports
‏@ReutersSports
BREAKING: Appeals court reinstates New England Patriots Tom Brady's #Deflategate suspension

http://www.firstcoastnews...stated-by-court/152825026

lol
- TheSabresTaco

Week 4 Buffalo and New England too...I want to beat them in New England with Brady

Just a quick question if Tampa lost in the 2nd could we trade for stamkos rights then ?
- gerbe75pts[/img]

We could trade for his rights today if we wanted
Stamkos would have to approve the deal though
And it probably doesn't make sense
You'd think he'd only accept a trade to where he wanted to sign...
So if that's us,
Then why not just wait till july1 & not give anything up?

We could trade for his rights today if we wanted
Stamkos would have to approve the deal though
And it probably doesn't make sense
You'd think he'd only accept a trade to where he wanted to sign...
So if that's us,
Then why not just wait till july1 & not give anything up?
- jdfitz77

Theres a chance Stamkos could play in the playoffs Tampa wouldn't trade his rights until they were eliminated...if at all!

I wouldn't mind trading for his rights because if you get him locked up before the draft you know one less position you need to fill.

Week 4 Buffalo and New England too...I want to beat them in New England with Brady
- Stripes77

I just wanna beat them
I'm totally fine if Brady is out for that game

Theres a chance Stamkos could play in the playoffs Tampa wouldn't trade his rights until they were eliminated...if at all!

I wouldn't mind trading for his rights because if you get him locked up before the draft you know one less position you need to fill.
- Stripes77

Good points
Idk if Stamkos would approve a trade anywhere though
He might wanna go visit a few teams before he makes a decision
And that can't happen till july1

Good points
Idk if Stamkos would approve a trade anywhere though
He might wanna go visit a few teams before he makes a decision
And that can't happen till july1
- jdfitz77

From the Sabres standpoint a deal before the draft & free agency allows you to plan better, as certain acquisitions are no longer realistic in the Stamkos scenario (Nash, etc). We would immediately be on a long-term budget, and that would likely determine what dominoes follow.

From the Sabres standpoint a deal before the draft & free agency allows you to plan better, as certain acquisitions are no longer realistic in the Stamkos scenario (Nash, etc). We would immediately be on a long-term budget, and that would likely determine what dominoes follow.
- Deuce81

IMO I think we would have a good chance at grabbing Nash, the Rangers may want him gone from what I have been reading so they can free up money. Only question is............. does he waive to come here ?

Theres a chance Stamkos could play in the playoffs Tampa wouldn't trade his rights until they were eliminated...if at all!

I wouldn't mind trading for his rights because if you get him locked up before the draft you know one less position you need to fill.
- Stripes77

No reason to trade for his rights, if he wants to play here it will happen.

IMO I think we would have a good chance at grabbing Nash, the Rangers may want him gone from what I have been reading so they can free up money. Only question is............. does he waive to come here ?
- SABRES 89

I would think playing with Jack and Sam would be super appealing to Nash. However, if we land Stamkos I think this goes out the window.

I would think playing with Jack and Sam would be super appealing to Nash. However, if we land Stamkos I think this goes out the window.
- Deuce81

Stamkos is the number 1 priority as he should be, anything else doesn't matter.

Good points
Idk if Stamkos would approve a trade anywhere though
He might wanna go visit a few teams before he makes a decision
And that can't happen till july1
- jdfitz77

Isn't there now a "courtship period" before free agency?

No reason to trade for his rights, if he wants to play here it will happen.
- SABRES 89

Are there any signs that he does want too ? Or is that info that can't be spoken.

Stamkos is the number 1 priority as he should be, anything else doesn't matter.
- SABRES 89

Agreed.

Isn't there now a "courtship period" before free agency?
- buffalofan19

Article I found was dated 2014, but it was nearly a full week before FA opened

I don't either but we will soon find out.
- SABRES 89

2018 contracts (just some guesswork):

ROR: 7.5
Eichel: 8.0
Reinhart: 6.5
Stamkos: 10.0
Kane: 6.0
Ennis or Equal: 5.0
Bottom 6: 13

Bogo: 5.2
Risto: 5.0
McCabe: 2.5
Pysyk or equal: 2.5
ELC Dman: 1.0
6/7: 2.0

Lehner: 4.5
backup: 1.0

Extras: 1.8

Rough add up: 81.5 M.....The cap should be extremely close to that by then. Hopefully this is roughly accurate.

Week 4 Buffalo and New England too...I want to beat them in New England with Brady
- Stripes77

Me too, but I have relegated my view that the only way we beat them there with Brady is if he is in the stands watching...til then, nope not gonna happen.

2018 contracts (just some guesswork):

ROR: 7.5
Eichel: 8.0
Reinhart: 6.5
Stamkos: 10.0
Kane: 6.0
Ennis or Equal: 5.0
Bottom 6: 13

Bogo: 5.2
Risto: 5.0
McCabe: 2.5
Pysyk or equal: 2.5
ELC Dman: 1.0
6/7: 2.0

Lehner: 4.5
backup: 1.0

Extras: 1.8

Rough add up: 81.5 M.....The cap should be extremely close to that by then. Hopefully this is roughly accurate.
- TheSabresTaco

Stamkos will likely be more, but I also think Eichel will be less. I picture Eichel around 5-6 for a short term, ending at his last RFA season, THEN getting paid (likely 10M plus), Reinhart would be in the same boat and thus lower than the 6.5 you mention. Ristolainen perhaps a bit higher, but not much (5.5?).

Good calls though, I wrote up something similar recently as well.

Theres a chance Stamkos could play in the playoffs Tampa wouldn't trade his rights until they were eliminated...if at all!

I wouldn't mind trading for his rights because if you get him locked up before the draft you know one less position you need to fill.
- Stripes77

My guess is, by the time the draft rolls around, Murray will know if landing Stamkos is all but a signature away.

Just a quick question if Tampa lost in the 2nd could we trade for stamkos rights then ?
- gerbe75pts[/img]

Technically trades can happen right now for any team (since the trading deadline), but the player cannot play in the playoffs (or anytime past the trading deadline).

I think trading for his rights would be a waste because he waited this long to see his "worth" and I doubt he would sign with team that traded for his rights. I did look it up, still can only be 7 year deal, so thats out.

Stamkos is well aware Sabres are interested in him and will make an offer, so trading for his rights should not be done. Also, I doubt TB would trade his rights, holding out the possibility he would consider to resign before July 1st (because he could still get 8 years if with TB).

Stamkos will likely be more, but I also think Eichel will be less. I picture Eichel around 5-6 for a short term, ending at his last RFA season, THEN getting paid (likely 10M plus), Reinhart would be in the same boat and thus lower than the 6.5 you mention. Ristolainen perhaps a bit higher, but not much (5.5?).

Good calls though, I wrote up something similar recently as well.
- stashu

My rationals started with 89's 10m as a low.. Eichel, using a few FA years, I think Murray would do anything and everything to get a max term on him. Reinhart is anyones guess really. He's been tough to project. All I know is, we need him for a good long while.