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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:28 PM ET
Now everything i have said its still all about BPA.
Take a C over a winger everytime if close.
Take a RHD the same over a LHD.

Righties r definitely a good commodity.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 1:30 PM ET
I dont disagree, I just think its more of an overrated situation to be in as you can compensate. You'll see guys trying to hold the line with their skates against the boards instead of stick to avoid the backhand. It's an adjustment, but some can do it and I just value those guys more

Powerplay, especially those run on the rightside, need the RH shot for sure. If they had a RH forward to run the halfwall on the otherside then it would negate it a little bit

- WhiteLie


Ya I guess I don't think it is overrated, I think being able to hold the blueline and be able to make a play can often result a good scoring chance both for and against.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
They also have Nylander at 4.....
- belcherbd


They have Nylander at 4 in case Leafs fell out of the lottery. Matching book ends
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
Many players I know are right handed but shoot left. I shoot left but golf right, not sure why it is so common.
- belcherbd


I'm RH but ambidextrous at a number of things in sports.
Playing the 1/2 wall as a winger has nothing to do with playing the offside on D.
As for picking D if we did trade our 5th for say the Canes 13 & 19 we can pick 2 F's.
Its still BPA n i only stated an example that a good RHD might be had that is top 4.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
I'm RH but ambidextrous at a number of things in sports.
Playing the 1/2 wall as a winger has nothing to do with playing the offside on D.
As for picking D if we did trade our 5th for say the Canes 13 & 19 we can pick 2 F's.
Its still BPA n i only stated an example that a good RHD might be had that is top 4.

- Nighthawk


I don't think it is worth it, still think the talent available at 5 is more important than getting two mid picks.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: A dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
The draft is where Benning is supposed to shine. Hopefully he has d men lined up at 33 and 63 that can turn into NHLers. Take the BPA at 5.
- fiveandagame


If I could get two picks in the top 6 I might rethink the BPA philosophy. Would be so nice to get two players of equal talent that complement each other. Basically rebuild your 1st line if you go with forwards.

That 4th pick seems like a beauty. What would it take for edm to bite?
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
They have Nylander at 4 in case Leafs fell out of the lottery. Matching book ends
- VANTEL


Surprised you aren't promoting trading our 5th for Kadri in that case
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:35 PM ET
I don't think it is worth it, still think the talent available at 5 is more important than getting two mid picks.
- belcherbd


Probably very true but idk what JB knows. If true i'm just a spitballing foolπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘πŸ»
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
If I could get two picks in the top 6 I might rethink the BPA philosophy. Would be so nice to get two players of equal talent that complement each other. Basically rebuild your 1st line if you go with forwards.

That 4th pick seems like a beauty. What would it take for edm to bite?

- bloatedmosquito


Demko and Virtanen
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
If I could get two picks in the top 6 I might rethink the BPA philosophy. Would be so nice to get two players of equal talent that complement each other. Basically rebuild your 1st line if you go with forwards.

That 4th pick seems like a beauty. What would it take for edm to bite?

- bloatedmosquito


Prolly a 3-way deal & they get a very good D in return. Hamonic?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Maybe a 3-way with Philly & us & the Oil get a top D prospect? Provorov?
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 5 @ 1:46 PM ET
I'm RH but ambidextrous at a number of things in sports.
Playing the 1/2 wall as a winger has nothing to do with playing the offside on D.
As for picking D if we did trade our 5th for say the Canes 13 & 19 we can pick 2 F's.
Its still BPA n i only stated an example that a good RHD might be had that is top 4.

- Nighthawk


It is kind of strange to see people who play hockey who shoot left but then shoot right in golf or baseball. I shoot left in hockey as well but can bat both from the left and right hand side (in fact, I have more power when I hit right handed but lose some coordination as opposed to batting left handed). Anyone else have this dynamic?

It really is a strange anomaly that in hockey you have a significant percentage of players who shoot left. Anyone have any particular theories? It would be curious to see if there have been any studies done on this.

But getting back to the actual draft, as someone else mentioned, all things being equal I would always take the right handed shooting forward, especially when it comes to defensemen. I wonder if teams keep that in mind when drawing up various systems (for instance, the power play set up/execution).
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

May 5 @ 1:46 PM ET
He could be but do you know how many people in the hockey world would be wrong about their scouting? ISS is one of the top scouting agencies , and like most scouts have agreed he has climbed all year. They rank him at 7
- VANTEL

Agreed, Logan Brown could be the real deal. TBH I don't know that much about him. The only worry is that teams can get enamoured with the size of a player (especially in the western conference) and lose sight of the speed and skill factor needed at the NHL level. Sandlak was a big body that could hit things and had a big shot, but couldn't hit the net if he tried.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 5 @ 1:48 PM ET
Agreed, Logan Brown could be the real deal. TBH I don't know that much about him. The only worry is that teams can get enamoured with the size of a player (especially in the western conference) and lose sight of the speed and skill factor needed at the NHL level. Sandlak was a big body that could hit things and had a big shot, but couldn't hit the net if he tried.
- we_are_all_canucks


Sandlak lacked high end skating skillls, though and was a bit of a slug out there - remember the nickname people had for him 'Sandbag'. Mind you, there wasn't as much emphasis on skating as there is now
The_Kuze
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 5 @ 1:50 PM ET
I don't think it is worth it, still think the talent available at 5 is more important than getting two mid picks.
- belcherbd


Nailed it

No top end talent means no winning plain and simple. You take Tkachuk or Dubois and you are very happy about it

Edit. Send Tanev or Eddie to Edmonton and pick em both

Sign Lucic

Tkachuk Dubois Boesser
Lucic Horvat Virtanen
Sedin Sedin Sutter
Burr McCann Hansen

lines in no particular order

we will suck again next year then draft all dmen happy early Thursday drinking
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
It is kind of strange to see people who play hockey who shoot left but then shoot right in golf or baseball. I shoot left in hockey as well but can bat both from the left and right hand side (in fact, I have more power when I hit right handed but lose some coordination as opposed to batting left handed). Anyone else have this dynamic?

It really is a strange anomaly that in hockey you have a significant percentage of players who shoot left. Anyone have any particular theories? It would be curious to see if there have been any studies done on this.

But getting back to the actual draft, as someone else mentioned, all things being equal I would always take the right handed shooting forward, especially when it comes to defensemen. I wonder if teams keep that in mind when drawing up various systems (for instance, the power play set up/execution).

- Zogg


Most sports don't favour lefties other than pitchers in MLB or sluggers.
In MLB many Canadians r RH but swing left which is an anomaly.
Much has to do with which eye is dominant.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
Nailed it

No top end talent means no winning plain and simple. You take Tkachuk or Dubois and you are very happy about it

- The_Kuze


You know that there is always going to be over thinking things instead of sticking to a common sense strategy/basic plan of picking the best player. It certainly brings up a lot of discussion and prognostication. I wonder if, in hockey mad markets, the intense pressure from fans/media has any sort of tangible effect on a GM's thought process, in particular when it comes to drafting, which is the bread and butter of any teams' successful development.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 1:57 PM ET
It is kind of strange to see people who play hockey who shoot left but then shoot right in golf or baseball. I shoot left in hockey as well but can bat both from the left and right hand side (in fact, I have more power when I hit right handed but lose some coordination as opposed to batting left handed). Anyone else have this dynamic?

It really is a strange anomaly that in hockey you have a significant percentage of players who shoot left. Anyone have any particular theories? It would be curious to see if there have been any studies done on this.

But getting back to the actual draft, as someone else mentioned, all things being equal I would always take the right handed shooting forward, especially when it comes to defensemen. I wonder if teams keep that in mind when drawing up various systems (for instance, the power play set up/execution).

- Zogg


Teams definitely pick on offside D to expose them.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
Sandlak lacked high end skating skillls, though and was a bit of a slug out there - remember the nickname people had for him 'Sandbag'. Mind you, there wasn't as much emphasis on skating as there is now
- Zogg


His nickname was the HOUSE & his hands & shot was nothing special. I knew him.
Sedlebaur was the FOG n aptly named.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
Nailed it

No top end talent means no winning plain and simple. You take Tkachuk or Dubois and you are very happy about it

Edit. Send Tanev or Eddie to Edmonton and pick em both

Sign Lucic

Tkachuk Dubois Boesser
Lucic Horvat Virtanen
Sedin Sedin Sutter
Burr McCann Hansen

lines in no particular order

we will suck again next year then draft all dmen happy early Thursday
drinking

- The_Kuze


No probs other than Lucic is a waste of money & not needed. Rather Brouwer instead.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
It is kind of strange to see people who play hockey who shoot left but then shoot right in golf or baseball. I shoot left in hockey as well but can bat both from the left and right hand side (in fact, I have more power when I hit right handed but lose some coordination as opposed to batting left handed). Anyone else have this dynamic?

It really is a strange anomaly that in hockey you have a significant percentage of players who shoot left. Anyone have any particular theories? It would be curious to see if there have been any studies done on this.

But getting back to the actual draft, as someone else mentioned, all things being equal I would always take the right handed shooting forward, especially when it comes to defensemen. I wonder if teams keep that in mind when drawing up various systems (for instance, the power play set up/execution).

- Zogg


I went looking for the percentage split in the NHL of Left vs Right and found this article: http://www.nytimes.com/20...rts/olympics/16lefty.html

It has come pretty interesting theories on why people shoot the way they do, even covering American vs Canadian hand preferences
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 5 @ 2:05 PM ET
No probs other than Lucic is a waste of money & not needed.
- Nighthawk

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
I went looking for the percentage split in the NHL of Left vs Right and found this article: http://www.nytimes.com/20...rts/olympics/16lefty.html

It has come pretty interesting theories on why people shoot the way they do, even covering American vs Canadian hand preferences

- WhiteLie



Right eye dominance is most common so LH shot & batting makes sense.
Pool is the same way & why i shoot right & sight down the cue right eyed.
As a catcher & pitcher i watch the batters reaction & call pitches & throw them accordingly. Also explains why i can hit LH also even though i'm better at RH cuz my right eye is leading & sees the pitch clearly & tracks easily.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
His nickname was the HOUSE & his hands & shot was nothing special. I knew him.
Sedlebaur was the FOG n aptly named.

- Nighthawk


Yes, the politically correct nickname was 'the house' but to disenchanted fans (who were expecting a high end power forward but quickly found out that he was going to be a bust) it was 'Sandbag'
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
Yes, the politically correct nickname was 'the house' but to disenchanted fans (who were expecting a high end power forward but quickly found out that he was going to be a bust) it was 'Sandbag'
- Zogg


He didn't live up to his billing as when in Jr & was often was out to lunch yesπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ‘πŸ»
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