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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: St. Petersburg is Great, Hamonic To Stay, UFA Targets
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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 9:42 PM ET
So you want to send Hutton to the minors and not re-sign Hamhuis?

Please list our 7 D next season.

Also, you wanted to waive Daniel 2 years ago.

- golfingsince

Daniel . Yes it was about a year and a half ago I said waive Daniel . I said that 3/4 of the year through when he had 14 goals and was not shooting the puck. We had 2 centres on the top line for most of that year. He did score a lot of empty net goals in the last quarter of the season to make it to 21. I remember counting at one point 1 shot in three games combined for both Sedins. Seems like a waste of 14 mil . If Daniel played that way this year I would have been proposing the same thing this year.

I don't like too much about our D Tanev is OK and Tryamkin is a project that most of us are hoping for a top guy.

I first of all Hope JB can find a way to trade for a top D . Edler right now is the best Canucks D but being the best of rotten apples doesn't make you good.

I would definitely not bring back Hamhuis no need to bring back a losing formula with those top three.

I would pick up FA Gryba and if I could not trade for a top four I would sign Yandle who had 42 points?



Elder Tanev
Yandle Tryamkin
Sbisa Larsen/Gryba

Pedan
golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

May 10 @ 9:43 PM ET
Sending Hutton & Virtanen to the minors is a step backwards.
Higgins could have been a decent 3rd liner if not injured in the pre-season. We will never know.
The Canucks are not winning anything next season beyond a Participation Ribbon. Baby steps.
Baby step to the draft.
Baby step to developing young players.
Baby step to keeping a few veterans throughout the line up.
Baby step to old contracts playing out and not wasting cap space on buyouts.
Baby step building a strong, contending team in 4 or 5 years.

It's going to suck for another year or 2 and then we start planning a huge Presidents Trophy Parade through all of kaptaan's socioeconomically approved neighbourhoods & districts.

- Marwood

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 10 @ 9:48 PM ET
Daniel . Yes it was about a year and a half ago I said waive Daniel . I said that 3/4 of the year through when he had 14 goals and was not shooting the puck. We had 2 centres on the top line for most of that year. He did score a lot of empty net goals in the last quarter of the season to make it to 21. I remember counting at one point 1 shot in three games combined for both Sedins. Seems like a waste of 14 mil . If Daniel played that way this year I would have been proposing the same thing this year.

I don't like too much about our D Tanev is OK and Tryamkin is a project that most of us are hoping for a top guy.

I first of all Hope JB can find a way to trade for a top D . Edler right now is the best Canucks D but being the best of rotten apples doesn't make you good.

I would definitely not bring back Hamhuis no need to bring back a losing formula with those top three.

I would pick up FA Gryba and if I could not trade for a top four I would sign Yandle who had 42 points?



Elder Tanev
Yandle Tryamkin
Sbisa Larsen/Gryba

Pedan

- VANTEL


So you preach development yet thrust a guy into the top 4, wether he's ready or not. Also, we have at least 3 guys in our top 7 D that are worse than Hamhuis. On top of that, we get into a FA bidding war for Yandle because he produces points? The guy can be a black hole defensively.......
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 9:49 PM ET
Sending Hutton & Virtanen to the minors is a step backwards.
Higgins could have been a decent 3rd liner if not injured in the pre-season. We will never know.
The Canucks are not winning anything next season beyond a Participation Ribbon. Baby steps.
Baby step to the draft.
Baby step to developing young players.
Baby step to keeping a few veterans throughout the line up.
Baby step to old contracts playing out and not wasting cap space on buyouts.
Baby step building a strong, contending team in 4 or 5 years.

It's going to suck for another year or 2 and then we start planning a huge Presidents Trophy Parade through all of kaptaan's socioeconomically approved neighbourhoods & districts.

- Marwood


Higgins hasn't been decent in years IMO
They were playing to empty seats at the end. Ownership will not accept it if the team is not competitive. We have the youth the money and the openings if Benning does not put out a competitive team this year he may be gone by the start of next year. Names like McPhee and Tallon are already being talked about.

It is very possible Hamhuis will be back . I will be extremely disappointed if he is but won't throw a PHucker.

There is a lot I do like about Canucks and a lot I don't like. We have the chance to make significant change and I hope they do.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 9:54 PM ET
So you preach development yet thrust a guy into the top 4, wether he's ready or not. Also, we have at least 3 guys in our top 7 D that are worse than Hamhuis. On top of that, we get into a FA bidding war for Yandle because he produces points? The guy can be a black hole defensively.......
- golfingsince


I will be honest I expect a big trade and the most likely one will somehow be trading down and picking up a Dman . For all we know we could be drafting and putting in a player like Sergachev's or Chychrun.

I think there will be significant movement . We need to see who the personnel is at the end of the summer.


I would not even be surprised to see Bartowski back . I love the rumor the other night of Col Barrie and their 10 for our 5 th plus.

I would like Tyramkin on the 3 Rd pairing but we need to trade for the second pair guy RHD
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 10:00 PM ET
Sending Hutton & Virtanen to the minors is a step backwards.
Higgins could have been a decent 3rd liner if not injured in the pre-season. We will never know.
The Canucks are not winning anything next season beyond a Participation Ribbon. Baby steps.
Baby step to the draft.
Baby step to developing young players.
Baby step to keeping a few veterans throughout the line up.
Baby step to old contracts playing out and not wasting cap space on buyouts.
Baby step building a strong, contending team in 4 or 5 years.

It's going to suck for another year or 2 and then we start planning a huge Presidents Trophy Parade through all of kaptaan's socioeconomically approved neighbourhoods & districts.

- Marwood

VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 10 @ 10:41 PM ET
"I never seem to get around to talking about the Loui Eriksson idea. "

Why would you want to compliment the twins when they are the way out? We are still looking for a 1C, do we need Loui to groom this mystery person?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 10:51 PM ET
"I never seem to get around to talking about the Loui Eriksson idea. "

Why would you want to compliment the twins when they are the way out? We are still looking for a 1C, do we need Loui to groom this mystery person?

- VanHockeyGuy

There is no reason to sign Eriksson, let the twins play with Vey until they ask for a trade.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 10:53 PM ET
Don Cherry is an idiot
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

May 10 @ 10:56 PM ET
Why are Hutton & Virtanen being demoted?
- Marwood


If they don't earn their spot out of camp they absolutely should start in the AHL, same goes fo the rest of the kids. That should always be the case with young players,.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 10 @ 10:56 PM ET
I will be honest I expect a big trade and the most likely one will somehow be trading down and picking up a Dman . For all we know we could be drafting and putting in a player like Sergachev's or Chychrun.

I think there will be significant movement . We need to see who the personnel is at the end of the summer.


I would not even be surprised to see Bartowski back . I love the rumor the other night of Col Barrie and their 10 for our 5 th plus.

I would like Tyramkin on the 3 Rd pairing but we need to trade for the second pair guy RHD

- VANTEL


My biggest concern is that it doesn't turn into another Keith Ballard trade.
VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 10 @ 10:59 PM ET
There is no reason to sign Eriksson, let the twins play with Vey until they ask for a trade.
- A_SteamingLombardi


No there isn't, no matter how much JB likes him.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

May 10 @ 11:02 PM ET
If they don't earn their spot out of camp they absolutely should start in the AHL, same goes fo the rest of the kids. That should always be the case with young players,.
- belcherbd


Totally, only reason this was even an issue, was because of their age and that they couldn't go to the AHL
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
My biggest concern is that it doesn't turn into another Keith Ballard trade.
- VanHockeyGuy

Gillis is gone
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
I cannot friggin believe that puck hit Beagle's stick
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 11:11 PM ET
Totally, only reason this was even an issue, was because of their age and that they couldn't go to the AHL
- dbot

VanHockeyGuy
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 10 @ 11:14 PM ET
Gillis is gone
- VANTEL


Hopefully JB has the stones and acumen to shine if he decides to trade down. We'll see.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:16 PM ET
Hopefully JB has the stones and acumen to shine if he decides to trade down. We'll see.
- VanHockeyGuy

I wouldn't be against it if it meant another first round pick and a grade "A" prospect.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 10 @ 11:17 PM ET
Boner with the winner, Washington just can't get it done
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 11:18 PM ET
Hopefully JB has the stones and acumen to shine if he decides to trade down. We'll see.
- VanHockeyGuy

I think Benning is going to shine this summer. I don't think he can survive two more years of not making playoffs.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 10 @ 11:19 PM ET
Bonino so hot right now. Bonino.

We need a Letang type Dman like right away.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 10 @ 11:21 PM ET
I think Benning is going to shine this summer. I don't think he can survive two more years of not making playoffs.
- VANTEL

Aiming to make the playoffs next season is the worst thing this team can do at the stage that they are at. If by chance they get in they are swept 4-0. You dont go from third worst team in the league to cup contender over night.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 10 @ 11:24 PM ET
Aiming to make the playoffs next season is the worst thing this team can do at the stage that they are at. If by chance they get in they are swept 4-0. You dont go from third worst team in the league to cup contender over night.
- mauryballstein


Didn't you just post "We need a Letang type Dman like right away"?
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

May 10 @ 11:28 PM ET
woooooah partner.

Hamhuis is not an answer, i'm just saying if Hamhuis was resigned and if someone like Loui Erikson was signed to add some scoring, it would not justify running the GM out of town, it would not be the worst case scenario....That doesn't mean it's the best case scenario (signing STamkos, winning the draft lottery or trading up and signing the Twin Finns, etc).

- dbot

hamhuis is not the answer but he is a stop gap so that you can deal edler for a top 15 pick hopefully top 10 if you add hansen or mccann. this team is not good at all and adding 2 free agents is not getting you to the playoffs anyway. deal as many players who wont be around long term so that we have spots to acquire players for basically nothing next season. which is also when we have 3 more bad contracts coming off the books. then make a huge play for benn and hedman to add to hopefully a first over all pick next season plus an additional few 1st rounder and 2nd rounders this year(edler, granlund, hansen, mccann). sign players that will have trade deadline value to 1 year deals and pay a little extra to make sure you get them, again adding picks.

its about as quick as you can get to legit being a playoff team with youth stock piled that will make you competitive for years.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 10 @ 11:29 PM ET
Aiming to make the playoffs next season is the worst thing this team can do at the stage that they are at. If by chance they get in they are swept 4-0. You dont go from third worst team in the league to cup contender over night.
- mauryballstein

Were we a true no talent bottom team or were we a bubble team with more than enough injuries?
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