EK suggests there's a long line of suitors for Loui Eriksson! This is good news, I hope he gets overpaid in another city.

TB in 6

St L/TB Final
Toss up but will go TB in 6 so we can make a run at Stamkos 😜
- Nighthawk

If Stamkos is back sill that would be a big maybe. PIT is just too deep right now IMO...

EK suggests there's a long line of suitors for Loui Eriksson! This is good news, I hope he gets overpaid in another city.
- VanHockeyGuy

Exactly. Cap space could be better spent

it can be very frustrating, the same sh!t all the time, don't know how many times I've told wifey not to use metal on non stick, found a nice pan I had been saving all chewed up in the bottom of the drawer... I never used it once

I have been hiding some nice pans on the top shelf, afraid to start using them, starting to think I am just as messed up as her.
- hillbillydeluxe

It seems to go in one ear and out the other most of the time. Lol my fiancée is still young though, so I've had time to mold her. she is getting better and better.

EK suggests there's a long line of suitors for Loui Eriksson! This is good news, I hope he gets overpaid in another city.
- VanHockeyGuy

I can't see any good free agents worth anything wanting to come to a rebuilding team, such as Eriksson or Okposso. They're gonna want to win, so there's a lot of other choices out there.

B-grade guys like Ladd and Lucic may come to Vancouver because it's home, but the cost would be a huge cap hit, not worth it IMO. Although I wouldn't mind Lucic to be honest.

C level guys like Vantel's guys may come but they'll also have a lot of suitors because they don't cost a lot.

What would you think of this?

Ladd Bo Brouwer
Danny Hank Rodin
Sven Sutter Hansen
Etem Gaunce Dorsett
- VANTEL

I doubt that fits under the salary cap.

I can't see any good free agents worth anything wanting to come to a rebuilding team, such as Eriksson or Okposso. They're gonna want to win, so there's a lot of other choices out there.

B-grade guys like Ladd and Lucic may come to Vancouver because it's home, but the cost would be a huge cap hit, not worth it IMO. Although I wouldn't mind Lucic to be honest.

C level guys like Vantel's guys may come but they'll also have a lot of suitors because they don't cost a lot.
- LeftCoaster

My guess is Ladd, family man, lives in Summerland. A reasonable two year deal would work, especially if Burrows comes off the books.

My guess is Ladd, family man, lives in Summerland. A reasonable two year deal would work, especially if Burrows comes off the books.
- VanHockeyGuy

He'll probably want more term as it'll be close to his last contract, I don't see him accepting a two year deal.

Morning you SOB's

It seems to go in one ear and out the other most of the time. Lol my fiancée is still young though, so I've had time to mold her. she is getting better and better.
- manvanfan

sounds like a keeper

Wow Dallas really choked in their game 7...or did St. Louis really play that much better?

Either way how many picked St. Louis in the conference finals?

Any thoughts for tomorrow night, Nashville or San Jose?
- Makita

I had a St. Louis/Wash final with Washington winning. Stupid Washington...

As a fan I hope to see it being a SJ-TB final, two teams I would really like to see win a cup. I would be ok with the Blues winning too, but redemption for the Sharks after so many years of disappointment and threats to blow it up would be a good story for a good franchise and fanbase

This whole work thing is going to ruin a nice day....


So draft talk:

You guys cool with, trading down to ARZ (7) and adding their 2nd (37)

Drafting Juolevi (7) and Benson (33), who should slide in to 2nd + have another pick at 37.

Or take Dubois or Tkachuk?

I'd be ok either way. One thing Trader Jim has our trust in, is drafting. I'll be on board with whatever situation arises.

I doubt that fits under the salary cap.
- manvanfan

Then you better study the salary cap closer . If they signed both they still have about another 10 mil in cap space.

I can't see any good free agents worth anything wanting to come to a rebuilding team, such as Eriksson or Okposso. They're gonna want to win, so there's a lot of other choices out there.

B-grade guys like Ladd and Lucic may come to Vancouver because it's home, but the cost would be a huge cap hit, not worth it IMO. Although I wouldn't mind Lucic to be honest.

C level guys like Vantel's guys may come but they'll also have a lot of suitors because they don't cost a lot.
- LeftCoaster

You lost me with B and C

Guys like Ladd and LUcic may come here but cost a lot ( in B ) but they will have many suitors because they are cheaper ( In C)

This whole work thing is going to ruin a nice day....


So draft talk:

You guys cool with, trading down to ARZ (7) and adding their 2nd (37)

Drafting Juolevi (7) and Benson (33), who should slide in to 2nd + have another pick at 37.

Or take Dubois or Tkachuk?

I'd be ok either way. One thing Trader Jim has our trust in, is drafting. I'll be on board with whatever situation arises.
- storm88

I like the idea, but I want more out of ARZ...

I know many want JB to draft Dubois, but if we some how end up with Tkachuk, I'd fine with that, he might even be ready to start in the NHL in a bottom 6 role.

I'll be okay with what ever happens, just looking forward to see what JB ends up doing.

He'll probably want more term as it'll be close to his last contract, I don't see him accepting a two year deal.
- LeftCoaster

The thing with Ladd is how many teams can afford 6 mil a year for 20 goals? The next thing is how long do you want to sign him for? Most teams will want 2-3 years.

If Canucks can offer him 6x4 with no NTC we could squeeze him in easily .We have 25 mil in cap space this year, 10.5 next year , and close to 20 mil the following year. This would not hurt seeing we have a very young team on ELC

Then you better study the salary cap closer . If they signed both they still have about another 10 mil in cap space.
- VANTEL

where exactly did you do this? and how much do you expect to sign those guys for?

edit and yeah i don't really cap most days.

The thing with Ladd is how many teams can afford 6 mil a year for 20 goals? The next thing is how long do you want to sign him for? Most teams will want 2-3 years.

If Canucks can offer him 6x4 with no NTC we could squeeze him in. We have 25 mil in cap space this year, 10.5 next year , and close to 20 mil the following year. This would not hurt seeing we have a very young team on ELC
- VANTEL

I'll admit I'm not a huge Ladd fan, but I see his value to contending teams. In my view I see him more as a top-6 complimentary player (not impact/driver), which is why I want the Canucks to stay away. With their current lineup I see him struggling to hit 20 goals, maybe he bangs home a few on the first PP unit with the twins but 5 on 5 I wouldnt have high expectations, especially not tied to a $6m contract value (which is another issue of setting a low production benchmark for guys coming off ELC's).

He's probably better than I give him credit for, but I just dont see it being a good move for Van

I'll admit I'm not a huge Ladd fan, but I see his value to contending teams. In my view I see him more as a top-6 complimentary player (not impact/driver), which is why I want the Canucks to stay away. With their current lineup I see him struggling to hit 20 goals, maybe he bangs home a few on the first PP unit with the twins but 5 on 5 I wouldnt have high expectations, especially not tied to a $6m contract value (which is another issue of setting a low production benchmark for guys coming off ELC's).

He's probably better than I give him credit for, but I just dont see it being a good move for Van
- WhiteLie

If you left him on an island playing alone he would struggle. I think if you brought him in another winger and they were centred by Bo it would be different

Didn't Ladd turn down 6 x 6

where exactly did you do this? and how much do you expect to sign those guys for?
- manvanfan

Off the books this year

Hamhuis 4.5
Vrbata 5.0
Prust 2.5
Weber 1.5
Bartowski 1.75
Vey 1

Total 15.25

Cap increase 3 mil

Total 18. 5

Burrows buy out 2 mil

Total 20.5

Higgins?

If you left him on an island playing alone he would struggle. I think if you brought him in another winger and they were centred by Bo it would be different
- VANTEL

Different sure, I just dont think they could put together a lineup in the next few seasons that would help him match his typical seasons (especially now that he's going to be over 30). If Ladd with Toews/Hossa produced 12 points in 19 games this year, and playing with Wheeler in WPG did 150 points in 218 games over the past 3 years, I think you're looking at production well under $6m price tag with Bo Horvat and whoever they find to play the other wing

EDIT: With Ladd, I just don't see how you're not creating the second coming of big contract Burrows

If you left him on an island playing alone he would struggle. I think if you brought him in another winger and they were centred by Bo it would be different
- VANTEL

drafting tkachuk would be good to have Ladd then for a couple more seasons allowing him to develop more then have
Ktachuk
Ladd
Baertschi as the LW

Virtanen
Boeser
Hansen

Horvat
McCann
Sutter

certainly could be a decent top 9 when the sedins are gone.

Didn't Ladd turn down 6 x 6
- The_Kuze

I don't think so. I think it was never offered

Different sure, I just dont think they could put together a lineup in the next few seasons that would help him match his typical seasons (especially now that he's going to be over 30). If Ladd with Toews/Hossa produced 12 points in 19 games this year, and playing with Wheeler in WPG did 150 points in 218 games over the past 3 years, I think you're looking at production well under $6m price tag with Bo Horvat and whoever they find to play the other wing
- WhiteLie

Chicago can't afford Ladd