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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 11:44 AM ET
Off the books this year

Hamhuis 4.5
Vrbata 5.0
Prust 2.5
Weber 1.5
Bartowski 1.75
Vey 1

Total 15.25

Cap increase 3 mil

Total 18. 5

Burrows buy out 2 mil

Total 20.5

Higgins?

- VANTEL


Your roster would come out to 62 with 12 forwards 6 d and 2 goalies. with ladd at 6 and brouwer at 4. with buyout of burrows and demotion on higgins. and Sven at 2.5
etem at .800
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 11:47 AM ET
Your roster would come out to 62 with 12 forwards 6 d and 2 goalies. with ladd at 6 and brouwer at 4. with buyout of burrows and demotion on higgins. and Sven at 2.5
etem at .800

- manvanfan


Yes and cap is 73 , That is what I said I said you could sign them both and still have 10 mil in space

Brouwer would get at least 5 mil not 4
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 12 @ 11:56 AM ET
Chicago can't afford Ladd
- VANTEL


I'm not suggesting they would try to sign him, I'm just saying production-wise he was put in a better position to succeed than Vancouver could offer in the next 4+ years and put up decent numbers. I cant see him producing anywhere close to that with kids or free agent signings and especially as he ages. If we are ready to buyout Burrows because of his subpar performance and contract value, Ladd will be him in 2 seasons tops
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 12 @ 11:57 AM ET
drafting tkachuk would be good to have Ladd then for a couple more seasons allowing him to develop more then have
Ktachuk
Ladd
Baertschi as the LW

Virtanen
Boeser
Hansen

Horvat
McCann
Sutter

certainly could be a decent top 9 when the sedins are gone.

- manvanfan


Tkachuk is going to Oilers 4OA. OR, going 4OA regardless of whoever owns that pick.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 11:59 AM ET
Yes and cap is 73 , That is what I said I said you could sign them both and still have 10 mil in space

Brouwer would get at least 5 mil not 4

- VANTEL

at 31 and a guy who scores 40 points a season on high scoring teams? Ladd's getting his 6.5 then.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:00 PM ET
Tkachuk is going to Oilers 4OA. OR, going 4OA regardless of whoever owns that pick.
- Codes1087

okay then take dubious put him as center and Move McCann to the wing.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 12 @ 12:01 PM ET
Tkachuk is going to Oilers 4OA. OR, going 4OA regardless of whoever owns that pick.
- Codes1087


last week we were hearing from media that Dubois was going 4th and we were getting Tkachuk at 5th... we need centres, so we should trade down and get a dman or lesser ranked centre...

Either way, Tkachuk or Dubois at 5th isn't so bad.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 12 @ 12:04 PM ET
last week we were hearing from media that Dubois was going 4th and we were getting Tkachuk at 5th... we need centres, so we should trade down and get a dman or lesser ranked centre...

Either way, Tkachuk or Dubois at 5th isn't so bad.

- hillbillydeluxe


Absolutely not. I will be very happy if our "consolation prize" is Dubois but Tkachuk I think has stolen the consensus 4OA prospect in this draft with his recent play.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:05 PM ET
last week we were hearing from media that Dubois was going 4th and we were getting Tkachuk at 5th... we need centres, so we should trade down and get a dman or lesser ranked centre...

Either way, Tkachuk or Dubois at 5th isn't so bad.

- hillbillydeluxe

team needs more top end talent then anything.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
I'm not suggesting they would try to sign him, I'm just saying production-wise he was put in a better position to succeed than Vancouver could offer in the next 4+ years and put up decent numbers. I cant see him producing anywhere close to that with kids or free agent signings and especially as he ages. If we are ready to buyout Burrows because of his subpar performance and contract value, Ladd will be him in 2 seasons tops
- WhiteLie

He put up those numbers on Winnipeg who are no where near a powerhouse team .

I don't think we are getting Stamkos , so we have room for 2-3 players of a lower tier. It may or may not be Eriksson Ladd McGinn LUcic Brouwer . We don't know who those players will be , but there will be players coming in. Both Trevor and Jim have said they have targets at UFA
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:06 PM ET
Absolutely not. I will be very happy if our "consolation prize" is Dubois but Tkachuk I think has stolen the consensus 4OA prospect in this draft with his recent play.
- Codes1087

lol are you mckeens? Can't base it off a good playoffs. it's pretty much a toss up on whether you want a C or a LW.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 12:08 PM ET
last week we were hearing from media that Dubois was going 4th and we were getting Tkachuk at 5th... we need centres, so we should trade down and get a dman or lesser ranked centre...

Either way, Tkachuk or Dubois at 5th isn't so bad.

- hillbillydeluxe

I would not mind Tkachuk at all. I think he could be a 1 LW in a few years.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

May 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
Hoping to see the Sharks crash and burn this evening
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
He put up those numbers on Winnipeg who are no where near a powerhouse team .

I don't think we are getting Stamkos , so we have room for 2-3 players of a lower tier. It may or may not be Eriksson Ladd McGinn LUcic Brouwer . We don't know who those players will be , but there will be players coming in. Both Trevor and Jim have said they have targets at UFA

- VANTEL

Having virtanen and McCann play in the nhl this season and basically wasting it. At least 1 of them is going to be on the team next season. If they didn't feel they were ready then they would have continued their development in the CHL.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

May 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
team needs more top end talent then anything.
- manvanfan


I'm okay with bpa.

Team needs furture-
#1 centre
top pairing dman
left wing

will take some scoring anywhere we can get it.

what don't we need... maybe a goalie

I have heard people suggest Edmonton may trade the 4th to someone who might want to move up and take Dubois.

I'll be okay with whoever JB drafts.

http://canucksarmy.com/20...ensus-rankings-may-9-2015
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:10 PM ET
Hoping to see the Sharks crash and burn this evening
- docmorgan

me too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 12:11 PM ET
Absolutely not. I will be very happy if our "consolation prize" is Dubois but Tkachuk I think has stolen the consensus 4OA prospect in this draft with his recent play.
- Codes1087


I see nothing at all wrong with a Bo Tkachuk Boeser top line in 4 years
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

May 12 @ 12:11 PM ET
team needs more top end talent then anything.
- manvanfan

Agree to both above, bpa - do not trade down for a center. We need top line players.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 12 @ 12:13 PM ET
He put up those numbers on Winnipeg who are no where near a powerhouse team .

I don't think we are getting Stamkos , so we have room for 2-3 players of a lower tier. It may or may not be Eriksson Ladd McGinn LUcic Brouwer . We don't know who those players will be , but there will be players coming in. Both Trevor and Jim have said they have targets at UFA

- VANTEL


No, but Blake Wheeler is a much better all round player and Olympian, then add Little and the D that the Jets had to help the transition game. That is all better than what Vancouver has as well. In all, I think he will prove to be too expensive on long term for what he would bring the the club.

IF he or the guys you listed can come in at reasonable term, I dont mind overpayment (like the Miller contract). I would just like to see these off the books before most of the ELC's run out so JB can reset the pay structure for the team
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
Agree to both above, bpa - do not trade down for a center. We need top line players.
- anavar

I have seen before that JB is highly interested in Jake Bean. I personally also really like JB (Jake Bean) haha. Still not a top 10 pick, if they do trade down they better get him though.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 12:14 PM ET
Having virtanen and McCann play in the nhl this season and basically wasting it. At least 1 of them is going to be on the team next season. If they didn't feel they were ready then they would have continued their development in the CHL.
- manvanfan


They were too good for Jr and too young for AHL. This year they are not too young
WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

May 12 @ 12:15 PM ET
I see nothing at all wrong with a Bo Tkachuk Boeser top line in 4 years
- VANTEL


VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
No, but Blake Wheeler is a much better all round player and Olympian, then add Little and the D that the Jets had to help the transition game. That is all better than what Vancouver has as well. In all, I think he will prove to be too expensive on long term for what he would bring the the club.

IF he or the guys you listed can come in at reasonable term, I dont mind overpayment (like the Miller contract). I would just like to see these off the books before most of the ELC's run out so JB can reset the pay structure for the team

- WhiteLie


We do have two players that are pretty good also . They usually make top 25 in scoring
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 12 @ 12:16 PM ET
lol are you mckeens? Can't base it off a good playoffs. it's pretty much a toss up on whether you want a C or a LW.
- manvanfan


I don't remember ever saying anything to do with playoffs, other than Tkachucks 2.79 ppg average in playoffs in an earlier post. Funny how you mention McKeen yet, Tkachuk was 5th or 6th behind not only Mcleod but Nylander according to his rankings? Good try though. I said I would be absolutely happy with either Tkachuk and Dubois and having Dubois as a "consolation prize" would still be amazing as either player would be a great addition for us. I think if you look up what consensus means, you would understand that you McKeen statement doesn't make much sense.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 12 @ 12:19 PM ET
We do have two players that are pretty good also . They usually make top 25 in scoring
- VANTEL

who? haha jk
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