Just spit balling.


Faulk, 13, and 21 for 8, two of the 3rds, and Foligno.
- dadeadhead

Just spit balling.


Faulk, 13, and 21 for 8, two of the 3rds, and Foligno.
- dadeadhead

Faulk to move up from 13 to 8 is a colossal over payment for Car. And two 3rds and Foligno isn't close to being worth 21.

I like the idea of not giving up a ton to get Nash. I could easily see him scoring fairly close to what Stamkos would without having to worry about the whole center issue.

Just spit balling.


Faulk, 13, and 21 for 8, two of the 3rds, and Foligno.
- dadeadhead

You forgot Pysyk and Girgensons.

as a cheaper option would Boedker be an option on LW? He has the speed to keep up with a guy like Eichel. I believe Eichel will be shooting more as his confidence grows and Boedker is a good assist man. He is also pretty good on the PP and doesn't take penalties. And he is only 26 years old and still might have his best years ahead of him.

You forgot Pysyk and Girgensons.
- CaptainRivet

And two of the Varones

CBUS has 6 LW signed long term:
Saad
Foligno
Calvert
Milano
Bittner
Rychel

All with top 6 potential. If not Jesse P, perhaps one or two of the above.
- StaziakAttack

Jesse plays the right side, and even some talk as a potential centre down the line.

Just spit balling.


Faulk, 13, and 21 for 8, two of the 3rds, and Foligno.
- dadeadhead

Carolina would probably ask for 8 straight up for Faulk. That's like us moving Risto and 8 for #4 pick. Would anyone do that here? Doubt it

Our prospect list of LW's is suspect.

Stamkos, one of Yandle/Fowler/Lindholm/Vatenen and whomever we get at #8 = a very good summer.
- SabreWest

stamkos sure. murray might have to offer to beat any contract. 7 years 12 per? yandle will probably get 5 years 6.5 per, thats a ton. if we were to get stamkos, yandle comes off the table. vatanen is a righty, which makes him less interesting. fowler probably costs reinhart, lindholm might be reinhart and 8. not saying you are wrong to target these players, everybody likes juice, how much do you like the squeeze?

stamkos sure. murray might have to offer to beat any contract. 7 years 12 per? yandle will probably get 5 years 6.5 per, thats a ton. if we were to get stamkos, yandle comes off the table. vatanen is a righty, which makes him less interesting. fowler probably costs reinhart, lindholm might be reinhart and 8. not saying you are wrong to target these players, everybody likes juice, how much do you like the squeeze?
- rover16

Fowler costs Reinhart??? In Anaheim's dreams

stamkos sure. murray might have to offer to beat any contract. 7 years 12 per? yandle will probably get 5 years 6.5 per, thats a ton. if we were to get stamkos, yandle comes off the table. vatanen is a righty, which makes him less interesting. fowler probably costs reinhart, lindholm might be reinhart and 8. not saying you are wrong to target these players, everybody likes juice, how much do you like the squeeze?
- rover16

It would be Reinhart for Fowler++
Or Reinhart for Lindholm+,
No way a 2nd overall pick with the upside of Reinhart goes along with a 1st rounder for any of those two guys. Unless Weber, Subban, or Karlsson is coming back in the trade then it's a different story

stamkos sure. murray might have to offer to beat any contract. 7 years 12 per? yandle will probably get 5 years 6.5 per, thats a ton. if we were to get stamkos, yandle comes off the table. vatanen is a righty, which makes him less interesting. fowler probably costs reinhart, lindholm might be reinhart and 8. not saying you are wrong to target these players, everybody likes juice, how much do you like the squeeze?
- rover16

Fowler will cost a 3rd Girgensons and a mid level D prospect. Let's get real here..

Combine tidbit number one....

Alexander Nylander was leading the field in the Wingate testing, which no one saw coming.

Said one scouting director: “It might be that he’s a safer pick than his brother [William, the Maple Leafs’ 2014 first-rounder]. The older guy is a skilled centre who has a lot of skill, but you’re not sure about his jam. And if you try him on the wing, how is he going to be with physical play to get the puck? [Alexander] is a wing. He has a position and skill, maybe not as much creative stuff, but still way above average on that count.”

William’s Wingate test numbers were also surprisingly good a couple of years back, but not to the degree of his little brother here in Buffalo. It’s one reason to think that maybe the younger will make up for fewer magic tricks by being the more dynamic skater and having a clearer role from the get-go

Combine tidbit number two.

There’s not quite a consensus on the choice between Olli Juolevi and Mikhail Sergachev as the top defenceman in this pool.

One scout who advocates Juolevi: “So smart, so much of what Finland did at the worlds and what London did this season started on his stick. Physically, he doesn’t get the credit that he should but he’s a playmaker and he makes the puck do the work. And he’s bigger than people might think.”

One scout who advocates Sergachev: “He probably helped himself this week. He measured at 220 pounds and over 6-foot-2. You can see him bring a physical component as a pro that you wouldn’t project for Juolevi. I think there’s a chance that he could be the best player in this whole draft eight or ten years from now. We liked him in our interview. He could have opted out of the U18s (after most of the Russian team was suspended for PED use). He told us that he wanted to go and play with underages at the tournament because he’d been an underager the year before and felt like he had a duty to help the Russian kids. ‘My country was always there for me, so I’m there for my country,’ he told us. Which you have to respect.”

Combine Tidbit number three.

You might see B.C. defenceman Charlie McAvoy and Sarnia blue liner Jake Chychrun show up in the top ten of a few mock drafts. This seems to be a reach, according to a poll of scouts.

Said one veteran scout who had viewed McAvoy five times on top of the world juniors: “The defencmen with top-pair upside here are Juolevi and Sergachev. Chychrun is at best a No. 3 defenceman [on a winning team] down the line. McAvoy might be a bit more of a wild card. The choice between Chychrun and McAvoy will come down to whether you like McAvoy’s hockey sense or Chychrun’s physical tools. Either way, if they’re not top-pair defencemen, then how do you spend a top ten pick on them?”

I don't think the Sabres can afford (can't afford to give up those pieces, without setting the rebuild back) to get a top tier player on the trade market.

One plan is to stay at 8 overall, or trade down (10-15 range) to gain a player with a higher cap hit.

I think just staying at 8 is the best move. Then try to sign Stamkos / Yandle or two second tier guys and "keep" a spot open for Vesey if we think we have a chance at him still.

Not sure I am interested in another teams "trash" (large cap hits) unless they are giving him away, otherwise I would rather not help them and keep our team in a good cap scenario.

Fowler will cost a 3rd Girgensons and a mid level D prospect. Let's get real here..
- bluengold12

fowler is a former 12 overall, developing nicely, probably 3/4 at worst. lindholm is a former 6 overall, very well thought of, top pair. so basically a left handed ristolainen, give or take. fowler a notch below. the d market is a sellers market. if somebody called and offered girgensons, a third, and brycen martin for ristolainen, whats your answer?

Why do you think Kane is leaving.
- SABRES 89

I think he's alright but not the player we need
- GERBE!!!75PTS

He's extremely under rated.

Just spit balling.


Faulk, 13, and 21 for 8, two of the 3rds, and Foligno.
- dadeadhead

No chance carolina says yes.

You forgot Pysyk and Girgensons.
- CaptainRivet

he forgot two PREMIUM 3rd round picks

as a cheaper option would Boedker be an option on LW? He has the speed to keep up with a guy like Eichel. I believe Eichel will be shooting more as his confidence grows and Boedker is a good assist man. He is also pretty good on the PP and doesn't take penalties. And he is only 26 years old and still might have his best years ahead of him.
- doppelthat

garbage. Especially for what he thinks he's worth.

fowler is a former 12 overall, developing nicely, probably 3/4 at worst. lindholm is a former 6 overall, very well thought of, top pair. so basically a left handed ristolainen, give or take. fowler a notch below. the d market is a sellers market. if somebody called and offered girgensons, a third, and brycen martin for ristolainen, whats your answer?
- rover16

Fowler is not the same as Risto that's ridiculous. Anahiem also has to sign their two younger and better defenseman who will likely each cost upwards of 5 million a year plus. It may cost Ennis instead of Girgensons but it will get done for (frank) lot less then Reinhart.

Combine Tidbit number three.

You might see B.C. defenceman Charlie McAvoy and Sarnia blue liner Jake Chychrun show up in the top ten of a few mock drafts. This seems to be a reach, according to a poll of scouts.

Said one veteran scout who had viewed McAvoy five times on top of the world juniors: “The defencmen with top-pair upside here are Juolevi and Sergachev. Chychrun is at best a No. 3 defenceman
- bluengold12[on a winning team] down the line. McAvoy might be a bit more of a wild card. The choice between Chychrun and McAvoy will come down to whether you like McAvoy’s hockey sense or Chychrun’s physical tools. Either way, if they’re not top-pair defencemen, then how do you spend a top ten pick on them?”

I dont think i agree with this. To say Chychrun doesnt have top pair upside is a little short sighted at this point especially after his showing at the combine. I think he has just as good of a chance to be top pair as the other two

Combine Tidbit number three.

You might see B.C. defenceman Charlie McAvoy and Sarnia blue liner Jake Chychrun show up in the top ten of a few mock drafts. This seems to be a reach, according to a poll of scouts.

Said one veteran scout who had viewed McAvoy five times on top of the world juniors: “The defencmen with top-pair upside here are Juolevi and Sergachev. Chychrun is at best a No. 3 defenceman
- bluengold12[on a winning team] down the line. McAvoy might be a bit more of a wild card. The choice between Chychrun and McAvoy will come down to whether you like McAvoy’s hockey sense or Chychrun’s physical tools. Either way, if they’re not top-pair defencemen, then how do you spend a top ten pick on them?”

Trade for the Dman, draft the winger. Got it, Gerbe??