I think there's a decent number of snipers who put up points consistently year to year and I hate to admit it but nobodys been able to slow Kessel down this playoffs.
- NorthNuck

beat me to it.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=248381
His scouting report has always been scorer, and usually where he plays he ends up with more goals than assists. He is a good offensive player playing on a juggernaut team, so he was bound to pick up assists and play off of people thinking he was going to shoot

Sven hasnt done much of the highlight reel dangle goals, but he makes crafty little moves throughout the game which show his skillset
- WhiteLie

Yeah he is a scorer but not a sniper. A 30-30 type player. Thinking like T.J. Oshie, Patrick sharp.

I can see that, but a balanced roster can compensate for a pure sniper's lack of all-around game. Kessel is a perfect example of that. Is Pittsburgh where they are today if it wasn't for Kessel's playoff performace so far?
- bloatedmosquito

No but TB got there without stamkos, Ovie hasn't got Washington anywhere.

I think there's a decent number of snipers who put up points consistently year to year and I hate to admit it but nobodys been able to slow Kessel down this playoffs.
- NorthNuck

That is because Bonino is too much a tough guy. They are scared of his retaliation if they go after Phil.

beat me to it.
- bloatedmosquito

My bad. Next time I have something to say I'll wait for you to speak first

That is because Bonino is too much a tough guy. They are scared of his retaliation if they go after Phil.
- Retinalz

would anybody believe me if I said that since Jonathan Toews entered the league he has scored 20 plus goals in every season?

would anybody believe me if I said that since Jonathan Toews entered the league he has scored 20 plus goals in every season?
- manvanfan

Even in the lockout season he got 23, guys a beast.

Yeah he is a scorer but not a sniper. A 30-30 type player. Thinking like T.J. Oshie, Patrick sharp.
- manvanfan

Im not sure I get the difference or your definition of sniper, Sharp has been called a sniper in his Chicago days and Oshie has been called 2 way. There are lots of 30 goal scorers that are considered snipers despite their balanced stat lines (James Neal is another example)

I can see that, but a balanced roster can compensate for a pure sniper's lack of all-around game. Kessel is a perfect example of that. Is Pittsburgh where they are today if it wasn't for Kessel's playoff performace so far?
- bloatedmosquito

No they wouldn't. I don't think it would a stretch to say Kessel should be considered for the CoNNe SmYthe.

Im not sure I get the difference or your definition of sniper, Sharp has been called a sniper in his Chicago days and Oshie has been called 2 way. There are lots of 30 goal scorers that are considered snipers despite their balanced stat lines (James Neal is another example)
- WhiteLie

I think there are very few snipers in the league. Stamkos, Ovie, Perry, Skinner, Neal, Kessel. forgot Tarasenko.

No they wouldn't. I don't think it would a stretch to say Kessel should be considered for the CoNNe SmYthe.
- thundachunk

He's been real good for them, very balanced team Pitt has. Been one of the better players for them the entire playoffs.

I think there are very few snipers in the league. Stamkos, Ovie, Perry, Skinner, Neal, Kessel. forgot Tarasenko.
- manvanfan

Are you placing a point requirement on being a sniper? Vrbata is a sniper, Vanek is a sniper, etc.

Are you placing a point requirement on being a sniper? Vrbata is a sniper, Vanek is a sniper, etc.
- NorthNuck

Not a point requirement just a player you don't ask to play defence. Vanek and Vrbata were snipers. I went with more of now snipers.

Lucic is going to the Oilers.
- Marwood

Ya I would tend to agree.

Are you placing a point requirement on being a sniper? Vrbata is a sniper, Vanek is a sniper, etc.
- NorthNuck

Gaborik, Nash, Carter, Benn, Seguin, Hall and Kucherov would be others I'd consider snipers

Gaborik, Nash, Carter, Benn, Seguin, Hall and Kucherov would be others I'd consider snipers
- WhiteLie

Thanks, I was just about to run down the list to find more names

My bad. Next time I have something to say I'll wait for you to speak first
- NorthNuck

I'm a very slow typer.

Gaborik, Nash, Carter, Benn, Seguin, Hall and Kucherov would be others I'd consider snipers
- WhiteLie

Nash, carter power forwards.
Benn, Sequin, Hall are elite scorers. Like Kane, crosby, kucherov.

Not a point requirement just a player you don't ask to play defence. Vanek and Vrbata were snipers. I went with more of now snipers.
- manvanfan

So basically only wingers then, since all C's are needed defensively?

Im just busting your chops a bit, but was curious how your definition was. I find its hard to explain, just some guys give you that dangerous score-at-will vibe, or has a hard/accurate shot and thats enough to call them snipers. Each has their own perspective on it

Gaborik, Nash, Carter, Benn, Seguin, Hall and Kucherov would be others I'd consider snipers
- WhiteLie

Those two guys could be so much more than just snipers. 440 lbs between the two of them. They play small.

No they wouldn't. I don't think it would a stretch to say Kessel should be considered for the CoNNe SmYthe.
- thundachunk

That trade is looking absolutely TERRIBLE for Toronto.

Kessel for $6.5 Million
& 2nd round pick
-------- For --------
Scott Harrington
30th overall pick
Kapanen
3rd round pick.

So basically only wingers then, since all C's are needed defensively?

Im just busting your chops a bit, but was curious how your definition was. I find its hard to explain, just some guys give you that dangerous score-at-will vibe, or has a hard/accurate shot and thats enough to call them snipers. Each has their own perspective on it
- WhiteLie

Stamkos is technically a C!
I also find it hard to explain!!! Snipers to me are the guys that just shoot. Brent burns has a wicked shot but he's never going to be called a sniper because he can play defence also. Crosby could be a sniper, scores lots of goals but he also has a lot of assists. Same as Pat Kane, great shot but very good at setting up teammates for goals also.

Really instead of lumping players into one category, i've sorted them out a bit more.

That trade is looking absolutely TERRIBLE for Toronto.

Kessel for $6.5 Million
& 2nd round pick
-------- For --------
Scott Harrington
30th overall pick
Kapanen
3rd round pick.


- classic321

what if Toronto wins the cup in a couple of years......












Sorry couldn't help myself.

That trade is looking absolutely TERRIBLE for Toronto.

Kessel for $6.5 Million
& 2nd round pick
-------- For --------
Scott Harrington
30th overall pick
Kapanen
3rd round pick.


- classic321

Well done Shanahan well done.