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Forums :: Blog World :: Carol Schram: Vancouver Canucks: Warming Up to Pierre-Luc Dubois, NHL Expansion Decision
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 10:54 PM ET
hes gone when expansion happens so might as well trade him now. You are keeping tanev and hutton and after what jb tossed up for goody not a chance they let him go for nothing. trade edler and resign hamhuis on a one year.
- mauryballstein


Should make for an interesting offseason if/when expansion is confirmed.
How many other teams will begin preparing in the exact same way and begin moving pieces.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 10:55 PM ET
Barely technically, horvat did get 40 points in his 2nd year haha
- MaWLz


don't make me pull out the ol plus/minus gems!
MaWLz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Langley , BC
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 7 @ 11:02 PM ET
don't make me pull out the ol plus/minus gems!
- dbot

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Jun 7 @ 11:03 PM ET
We should probably throw in Demko as well
- MaWLz

if you insist....

we are pretty stocked at goalie already
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 11:03 PM ET
don't make me pull out the ol plus/minus gems!
- dbot

Plus/minus

That's even worse dumpster diving
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 7 @ 11:08 PM ET
if you insist....

we are pretty stocked at goalie already

- mr.sir

dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jun 7 @ 11:09 PM ET
Plus/minus

That's even worse dumpster diving

- VANTEL


Your laughter has de-escalated the situation...for now...

I'm just saying that Sutter is/was better suited to play 2C last year. He probably is this year as well.
Bo (lord love him) played over his head last year and it showed. I have high hopes for the kid and if he can become a player of Kesler's (beastmode) caliber shutdown, f/o champ, score 25-30 goals, that will be wonderful.

Bo just ain't ready to be thrown against other teams top 2 lines at this point (also given his linemates). If he was on a more offensive line next year and not facing top defenders, he'll be better suited. Allow Sutter to play that real shut down role.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 7 @ 11:58 PM ET
I just read through the tread. The comments about Rollie are totally off the mark. Rollie's wife lives in the east. He has family things going on and its time for a change. He has done well. I am 100% positive that he and Miller have no issues. This change has nothing to do with the organization or personnel. This is cut and dry family/personal reasons.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 8 @ 12:09 AM ET
I just read through the tread. The comments about Rollie are totally off the mark. Rollie's wife lives in the east. He has family things going on and its time for a change. He has done well. I am 100% positive that he and Miller have no issues. This change has nothing to do with the organization or personnel. This is cut and wet family/humidity reasons.
- thundachunk


just having fun and stirring the pot on a Tuesday.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 12:20 AM ET
just having fun and stirring the pot on a Tuesday.
- hillbillydeluxe

Well played.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 12:24 AM ET
You talk like Logan Brown is some unskilled player? He had 1.25 PPG this year in a tougher league to play in, OHL vs QMJHL. He was 19th overall in scoring in the OHL. He also had 12 points in 7 games for USA U18 at the WJC-18.

I think all three are great prospects, but if I had to list them I'd put a premium on Brown being a center and their ability to skate. I'd list them Dubois, Brown, Tkachuk.

Brown is not an unskilled player!

- LeftCoaster

I listened to Button earlier endorsing the Canucks to take Brown. Now i am afraid he's a bust.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 8 @ 12:24 AM ET
just having fun and stirring the pot on a Tuesday.
- hillbillydeluxe

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 12:29 AM ET
So assuming Pittsburgh wins the Cup, which I'm pretty sure they will, that'll give them four Stanley Cups. Since expansion that puts them in pretty good company.

Montreal - 10
Edmonton - 5
NYI's - 4
Pittsburgh - 4
Detroit - 4
New Jersey - 3
Boston - 3
Chicago - 3
Philadelphia - 2
Colorado - 2
Los Angeles - 2
NYR - 1
Calgary - 1
Dallas - 1
Anaheim - 1
Carolina - 1
Tampa - 1

Everyone else zero
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 12:32 AM ET
So assuming Pittsburgh wins the Cup, which I'm pretty sure they will, that'll give them four Stanley Cups. Since expansion that puts them in pretty good company.

Montreal - 10
Edmonton - 5
NYI's - 4
Pittsburgh - 4
Detroit - 4
New Jersey - 3
Boston - 3
Chicago - 3
Philadelphia - 2
Colorado - 2
Los Angeles - 2
NYR - 1
Calgary - 1
Dallas - 1
Anaheim - 1
Carolina - 1
Tampa - 1

Everyone else zero

- LeftCoaster

Our turn soon.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 8 @ 12:38 AM ET
Our turn son.
- thundachunk

Fixed
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 12:42 AM ET
I listened to Button earlier endorsing the Canucks to take Brown. Now i am afraid he's a bust.
- thundachunk

it's funny, human nature, for whatever reason, makes us only remember and cast individuals in a certain light from the bad things they've done. Just like Dan Cloutier, he was actually a pretty decent tender but everyone poops all over him because of ONE goal.

Button was Director of Scouting and Player Personnel from 1992 to 2000 with Dallas, he helped draft a bunch of good players for them and they went to two finals, winning once.

Everyone lays an egg once and awhile.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:45 AM ET
I listened to Button earlier endorsing the Canucks to take Brown. Now i am afraid he's a bust.
- thundachunk



How many forwards in the NHL are 6'6?

Brian Boyle is all I can think of.

He's too tall to be a centerman. 6'2 - 6'4 is the perfect height

Dubois = 6'25 = perfect
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 12:47 AM ET
How many forwards in the NHL are 6'6?

Brian Boyle is all I can think of.

He's too tall to be a centerman. 6'2 - 6'4 is the perfect height

Dubois = 6'25 = perfect

- classic321

Scouting report says Dubois has a high competitive drive, that's something you can't teach....I really like that about him.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 8 @ 12:51 AM ET
Scouting report says Dubois has a high competitive drive, that's something you can't teach....I really like that about him.
- LeftCoaster



Dubois PPG avg as winger = 1.04

Dubois PPG avg as center - 1.75

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 8 @ 12:52 AM ET
Fixed
- A_SteamingLombardi

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 12:53 AM ET
Scouting report says Dubois has a high competitive drive, that's something you can't teach....I really like that about him.
- LeftCoaster

Alpha male #1 is the guy I want. Compete level Alpha,
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 12:55 AM ET
Dubois PPG avg as winger = 1.04

Dubois PPG avg as center - 1.75


- classic321

Lots more skating as a center. Maybe thats what he needed bring him to the next level.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 1:02 AM ET
it's funny, human nature, for whatever reason, makes us only remember and cast individuals in a certain light from the bad things they've done. Just like Dan Cloutier, he was actually a pretty decent tender but everyone poops all over him because of ONE goal.

Button was Director of Scouting and Player Personnel from 1992 to 2000 with Dallas, he helped draft a bunch of good players for them and they went to two finals, winning once.

Everyone lays an egg once and awhile.

- LeftCoaster

I like Cloutier, I don't mind Button but sometimes he gets a little carried away.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 8 @ 1:05 AM ET
Dubois PPG avg as winger = 1.04

Dubois PPG avg as center - 1.75


- classic321

sexy
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jun 8 @ 1:17 AM ET
Alpha male #1 is the guy I want. Compete level Alpha,
- thundachunk



Similar to Virtanen in his draft, Dubois is young. He is still 17, and turns 18 on the day of the draft.

That kind of play for his age is really good.


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