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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 8 @ 10:39 AM ET
Sorry just had to fix that.



- LordHumungous

Lucic is going to the Oilers.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:45 AM ET
It wont be our choice.

It will either be Edmonton or the team they trade the pick to for a D-man.

Edmonton SHOULD pick Tkachuk because he's a winger, but they are pretty stupid when it comes to 1st rounders.

Taylor Hall & the 4th for Subban, and Montreal picks Dubois.

- classic321

Hall and the 4th? Jesus Chireli would be crucified. Hall Mcdavid Draisaitl are your pieces moving forward. Did Hall turn into a scrub? Adding a 4th overall is over the top for Subban.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:46 AM ET
sorry but I had to work yesterday.
Sedin Sedin Virtanen
McGinn Sutter Rodin
Baert Horvat Hansen
Etem Granlund Dorsett
Vey

Edler Tanev
Hutton Gudbranson
Tryamkin Larsen
Biega

Markstrom
Miller

Baertschi 2.8 for 3
Etem .900 for 1
McGinn 3.6 for 4
Larsen 1.8 for 2
Vey 1.2 for 2

- manvanfan

Anyone else bummed that Kenins turned out to be useless?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
Very true, but it's not a given that Griess will continue playing lights-out next regular season. The original question was if Lucic was a good fit for the islanders. They are going to need more than a hot goalie and Tavares to carry them through a long season and possibly a long playoff run. They have improved so much, just hope Snow doesn't (frank) it up.

Lucic doesn't seem like a good fit for them IMO.

- bloatedmosquito

Tavares and Greiss carried them to the second round.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
So assuming Pittsburgh wins the Cup, which I'm pretty sure they will, that'll give them four Stanley Cups. Since expansion that puts them in pretty good company.

Montreal - 10
Edmonton - 5
NYI's - 4
Pittsburgh - 4
Detroit - 4
New Jersey - 3
Boston - 3
Chicago - 3
Philadelphia - 2
Colorado - 2
Los Angeles - 2
NYR - 1
Calgary - 1
Dallas - 1
Anaheim - 1
Carolina - 1
Tampa - 1

Everyone else zero

- LeftCoaster

If Vancouver wins a cup there will be nothing interesting to talk about other than why didn't it happen sooner
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:47 AM ET
Anyone else bummed that Kenins turned out to be useless?
- NorthNuck

No it happens quite often.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 10:49 AM ET
Anyone else bummed that Kenins turned out to be useless?
- NorthNuck

Nope, didn't cost a thing.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
No.

Bonino for Conn Smythe and Sullivan for coach of the year. Kessel honourable mention. As we all know the trolls are just salivating right now...

Discuss.


- LordHumungous

Tuesday is over.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 8 @ 10:50 AM ET
Nope, didn't cost a thing.
- manvanfan

I know we didn't lose anything, I just liked him when he first came to van. Too bad he's a douche.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 8 @ 10:53 AM ET
If you get a chance go to thecanuckway.com and read about some trade proposals. Fun read but wow
- VANTEL

I liked the Sbisa trade. Don't think the Montreal one was enough.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:54 AM ET
Lucic is going to the Oilers.
- Marwood

mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 8 @ 10:59 AM ET
Was listening to 1040 and they are saying that there is talk of them trading the 5th overall pick? Would/could they be that stupid? Does anyone know what the rumors are if any? Or is it typical BS from those guys?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:01 AM ET
Was listening to 1040 and they are saying that there is talk of them trading the 5th overall pick? Would/could they be that stupid? Does anyone know what the rumors are if any? Or is it typical BS from those guys?
- mauryballstein

JB and Co. are looking at all options. Don't worry, he will do what is best for the team.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:02 AM ET
- 2.8 mill for baertschi is too much. he didn't prove that much last year.

- Hall and 4th for Subban is too much. What is left on D for MTL if they move PK? I also believe if they ever did move PK, that his contract actually hurts his value to a small degree.

- I was joking earlier with my Tkachuk/Dubois comment. Glad LordH (someone) noticed.

- Eriksson is the only FA I keep coming up with. However, JB may have to overpay to get a guy like him. I know all UFA's are generally overpaid. But, to sell a 30 year old on joining a "retooling" "rebuilding" team, over a contender won't be easy. But take all those injuries away and add 30 + goals (like Vrbata 1st year) and this team looks a lot better. Also, some stability on D with Guddy. Not a contender, but certainly not a bottom feeder. a Healthy top 3 at centre is key too.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:03 AM ET
I know we didn't lose anything, I just liked him when he first came to van. Too bad he's a douche.
- NorthNuck

How is he a douche? He didn't work out, it happens. Fell down the depth charts. Be nice if he signed with Utica and was a call up.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 8 @ 11:05 AM ET
Was listening to 1040 and they are saying that there is talk of them trading the 5th overall pick? Would/could they be that stupid? Does anyone know what the rumors are if any? Or is it typical BS from those guys?
- mauryballstein


Its a bit early to say that move would be stupid, thats like saying Brian Burke was stupid for trading away the 1st overall pick in 99, when clearly he valued the Sedin's and he knew that Atlanta wasnt going to take them. If JB has a preference for a particular player and knows teams have him further down their charts, then why not explore the option?
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Jun 8 @ 11:07 AM ET
Was listening to 1040 and they are saying that there is talk of them trading the 5th overall pick? Would/could they be that stupid? Does anyone know what the rumors are if any? Or is it typical BS from those guys?
- mauryballstein


Tyson Jost
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
- 2.8 mill for baertschi is too much. he didn't prove that much last year.

- Hall and 4th for Subban is too much. What is left on D for MTL if they move PK? I also believe if they ever did move PK, that his contract actually hurts his value to a small degree.

- I was joking earlier with my Tkachuk/Dubois comment. Glad LordH (someone) noticed.

- Eriksson is the only FA I keep coming up with. However, JB may have to overpay to get a guy like him. I know all UFA's are generally overpaid. But, to sell a 30 year old on joining a "retooling" "rebuilding" team, over a contender won't be easy. But take all those injuries away and add 30 + goals (like Vrbata 1st year) and this team looks a lot better. Also, some stability on D with Guddy. Not a contender, but certainly not a bottom feeder. a Healthy top 3 at centre is key too.

- storm88

Casey Cizikas just got 3.33 for one 30 point season.
Kassian got 1.5 for 8 points.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 8 @ 11:08 AM ET
JB and Co. are looking at all options. Don't worry, he will do what is best for the team.
- manvanfan

I dont think he has really done much of that since coming to vancouver
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:12 AM ET
Its a bit early to say that move would be stupid, thats like saying Brian Burke was stupid for trading away the 1st overall pick in 99, when clearly he valued the Sedin's and he knew that Atlanta wasnt going to take them. If JB has a preference for a particular player and knows teams have him further down their charts, then why not explore the option?
- WhiteLie



Would ARZ move the 7th and 20th for the 5th? Would you take that? If Tkachuk/Dubois are valued so much higher than others, perhaps you even get more. I'd still keep the 5th. Unless ARZ wants to severely overpay. Benning hasn't got quantity (picks) over the years, but you can't say he hasn't got quality. A great 1st draft..

Perhaps next year he'll start adding picks. Having to move 2nds etc to fill in those void years has hurt our stock of picks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:13 AM ET
I don't think he has really done much of that since coming to vancouver
- mauryballstein

Will see this season what his team will be like as long as they can stay somewhat healthy.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
Would ARZ move the 7th and 20th for the 5th? Would you take that? If Tkachuk/Dubois are valued so much higher than others, perhaps you even get more. I'd still keep the 5th. Unless ARZ wants to severely overpay. Benning hasn't got quantity (picks) over the years, but you can't say he hasn't got quality. A great 1st draft..

Perhaps next year he'll start adding picks. Having to move 2nds etc to fill in those void years has hurt our stock of picks.

- storm88

add sbisa in might get it done.
mauryballstein
Vancouver Canucks
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.12.2015

Jun 8 @ 11:14 AM ET
Would ARZ move the 7th and 20th for the 5th? Would you take that? If Tkachuk/Dubois are valued so much higher than others, perhaps you even get more. I'd still keep the 5th. Unless ARZ wants to severely overpay. Benning hasn't got quantity (picks) over the years, but you can't say he hasn't got quality. A great 1st draft..

Perhaps next year he'll start adding picks. Having to move 2nds etc to fill in those void years has hurt our stock of picks.

- storm88

That deal might be worth it but I dont see Arizona moving up for TKachuk or Dubois they are desperate for defense unless they look to fill holes via free agency.
storm88
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Surrey, BC
Joined: 09.29.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:15 AM ET
Casey Cizikas just got 3.33 for one 30 point season.
Kassian got 1.5 for 8 points.

- manvanfan


ouch. thats a JB signing

I'd give Baer 2.25. Just like I'd give Sbisa 3 and Dorsett 2.
1.675 savings (forgive me if I'm wrong)

JB handed out just a little too much. But it adds up.

I gott finish shaving and packing my lunch! gonna be late for work! Come on draft day!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 11:21 AM ET
ouch. thats a JB signing

I'd give Baer 2.25. Just like I'd give Sbisa 3 and Dorsett 2.
1.675 savings (forgive me if I'm wrong)

JB handed out just a little too much. But it adds up.

I gott finish shaving and packing my lunch! gonna be late for work! Come on draft day!

- storm88

Inflation is a female dog.
If you give 2.8 it would be over a couple of years. With his increase in yearly production at the end of 3 or 4 years 2.8 could be a good contract.
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