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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:10 PM ET
Name them please
- Retinalz


Tradable pieces .

Markstrom
JV
Tryamkin
Our 5OA
Sven
Gaunce
Rodin
Etem
Hutton
Tanev
Hansen
Brisebois
Boeser

Are you going to move the top ones probably not but if you could find a great deal then everyone is available
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:12 PM ET
You would be trading youth for youth.

Just an example Not necessarily these two players but take the concept, AVs are looking for a big Dman for Duchense . Tryamkin is a big Dman . Yes he has played 13 games but he looks like a very decent prospect. You can add players or picks to make a deal. Canucks future center solved draft Sergachev to replace Tryamkin.

Everything is possible .

- VANTEL

That's not even remotely plausible. Duchene would cost you (I know hypothetical) a TON more than Tryamkn. As in Tanev and Tryamkin!
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:15 PM ET
Who here can provide a list of who of our players need protection or be exposed to the expansion draft next year?

Thx i am just too lazy to figure it out 😂😂

- Nighthawk


Isn't it just Daniel and Henrik?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
That's not even remotely plausible. Duchene would cost you (I know hypothetical) a TON more than Tryamkn. As in Tanev and Tryamkin!
- LeftCoaster

Tryamkin would be out starting point. But If we could trade for Duchene without trading any of BoHo, Hutton, JV, Boeser, 5OA, Demko. I say do it.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 9 @ 9:16 PM ET
Isn't it just Daniel and Henrik?
- RonPielep


Really?

and you act surprised with the treatment you receive here.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
Tradable pieces .

Markstrom
JV
Tryamkin
Our 5OA
Sven
Gaunce
Rodin
Etem
Hutton
Tanev
Hansen
Brisebois
Boeser

Are you going to move the top ones probably not but if you could find a great deal then everyone is available

- VANTEL

You're insinuating trading a bunch of bottom six kids is somehow gonna get you a measurable improvement, you're dreaming buddy!

Those kids aren't worth poop!

Furthermore, kids like Demko, Boeser, Virtanen, Hutton, are the future of the club, the ONLY future they have....they're not trading them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
That's not even remotely plausible. Duchene would cost you (I know hypothetical) a TON more than Tryamkn. As in Tanev and Tryamkin!
- LeftCoaster

Same thing was said last year with Gudbrandson. As I said you start there. You could add next years first or JV or Sven .

People laughed at McCann for Gudbrandson last year . Can't be done. Fla wanted to get rid of him.

McIlrath is another one NY want to move. Duchesne and Barrie Col want to move. Teams are not trading Hall for Duschene.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:20 PM ET
Your active rooting worries me.
- Marwood




Okay maybe passive is a better way to put it.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:21 PM ET
Tryamkin would be out starting point. But If we could trade for Duchene without trading any of BoHo, Hutton, JV, Boeser, 5OA, Demko. I say do it.
- Retinalz

So how are you getting him, with Edler? That'd make the team so much worse, they're not trading Edler, he makes the team better. They need to add to the defense not take away from it.

The kids you've named are the only prospects or young players they have, the defense is thin and the forward group is old.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:22 PM ET
You're insinuating trading a bunch of bottom six kids is somehow gonna get you a measurable improvement, you're dreaming buddy!

Those kids aren't worth poop!

Furthermore, kids like Demko, Boeser, Virtanen, Hutton, are the future of the club, the ONLY future they have....they're not trading them.

- LeftCoaster



You said the exact same thing about McCann Gudbrandson last year . I would not be at all surprised at all if JV got traded. He was the other one that was mentioned a lot last year for entitlement attitude.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:23 PM ET
That's not even remotely plausible. Duchene would cost you (I know hypothetical) a TON more than Tryamkn. As in Tanev and Tryamkin!
- LeftCoaster


I honestly don't even think that gets it done. If the Avs are trading Duchene to the Nucks they are probably asking for the 5OA + to start.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
Really?

and you act surprised with the treatment you receive here.

- hillbillydeluxe


They are the only two I can see with NMCs.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:24 PM ET
Same thing was said last year with Gudbrandson. As I said you start there. You could add next years first or JV or Sven .

People laughed at McCann for Gudbrandson last year . Can't be done. Fla wanted to get rid of him.

McIlrath is another one NY want to move. Duchesne and Barrie Col want to move. Teams are not trading Hall for Duschene.

- VANTEL

Gudbranson is the equivalent of SJ trading for Brendan Dillion, you're talking like he's even is the same stratosphere as Duchene....he's not!

Duchene just scored 30 goals as a 25 year old, he'll cost you a fortune.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 9:25 PM ET
So how are you getting him, with Edler? That'd make the team so much worse, they're not trading Edler, he makes the team better. They need to add to the defense not take away from it.

The kids you've named are the only prospects or young players they have, the defense is thin and the forward group is old.

- LeftCoaster

The Defense is stronger this year than last. Duchene makes the forward group younger. It also gives us our future top 6.

5OA-Duchene-Boeser
Sven-BoHo-JV

We could also go about trying to get TT through a Bickell dump for cheap, and add TT or Sven in the Duchene trade.

Bottom line is that trading for players in early twenties(even if picks are used) is not throwing out future away. It is making it better, provided you aren't trading for Vey.

Tryamikin+5OA+x for Duchene+10OA would be a good option.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:28 PM ET
Really?

and you act surprised with the treatment you receive here.

- hillbillydeluxe


Oh hahaha nvm the wording of the question (frank)ed with me.

Henrik and Daniel are the only two I can see that you are forced to protect.

Virtanen is the only current roster player who is safe due to his ELC I think. But obviously so are ELC prospects like Demko etc.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:29 PM ET
The Defense is stronger this year than last. Duchene makes the forward group younger. It also gives us our future top 6.

5OA-Duchene-Boeser
Sven-BoHo-JV

We could also go about trying to get TT through a Bickell dump for cheap, and add TT or Sven in the Duchene trade.

Bottom line is that trading for players in early twenties(even if picks are used) is not throwing out future away. It is making it better, provided you aren't trading for Vey.

Tryamikin+5OA+x for Duchene+10OA would be a good option.

- Retinalz

I get what you're saying, love to have Matt Duchene, but they don't have the assets to do it without making the defense worse.

The bolded is a pipe-dream, Duchene would cost you the 5th overall and Tanev. Not a snowballs chance in hell the 10th overall is coming back.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:31 PM ET
Gudbranson is the equivalent of SJ trading for Brendan Dillion, you're talking like he's even is the same stratosphere as Duchene....he's not!

Duchene just scored 30 goals as a 25 year old, he'll cost you a fortune.

- LeftCoaster

Too much sun Lefty ? I advise wearing a hat when you golf.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:32 PM ET
Wtf is with so many people spelling Duchene with an s? It's like mass dyslexia.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Jun 9 @ 9:35 PM ET
Too much sun Lefty ? I advise wearing a hat when you golf.
- VANTEL




Yeah he has had too large of a dose of reality. Oddly enough it's causing him to not act like a complete homer. Duchene for Tyramkin as the center piece of a trade?
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:40 PM ET
Too much sun Lefty ? I advise wearing a hat when you golf.
- VANTEL

you guys and your pipe-dream roster moves are funny! I trust that Benning won't trade anymore talented youth like McCann, he can't afford to. Plus there isn't a whole bunch of them, outside of Demko, Virtanen, Boeser, Hutton or Horvat.

He's already stated those kids are part of their next core, a telling sign about McCann is he said before the trade, McCann has a "chance" to be part of that group, obviously he knew he was gonna deal him.

As I said, Brendan Dillion and Erik Gudbranson are very similar type players, which is fine, but your example is a 30 goal 25 year old player. He just paid a 19 yr old NHL player picked in the first round, a 2nd & 4th round pick for a physical defenseman....how much do you think a #1 center will cost?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:43 PM ET
you guys and your pipe-dream roster moves are funny! I trust that Benning won't trade anymore talented youth like McCann, he can't afford to. Plus there isn't a whole bunch of them, outside of Demko, Virtanen, Boeser, Hutton or Horvat.

He's already stated those kids are part of their next core, a telling sign about McCann is he said before the trade McCann has a "chance" to be part of that group, obviously he knew he was gonna deal him.

As I said, Brendan Dillion and Erik Gudbranson are very similar type players, which is fine, but your example is a 30 goal 25 year old player. He just paid a player picked in the first round, a 2nd & 4th round pick for a physical defenseman....how much do you think a #1 center will cost?

- LeftCoaster

Ballard, Raymond and a 3rd
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 9 @ 9:44 PM ET
Ballard, Raymond and a 3rd
- RealityChecker



(frank) me people need to get off the bong and be realistic.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:51 PM ET
you guys and your pipe-dream roster moves are funny! I trust that Benning won't trade anymore talented youth like McCann, he can't afford to. Plus there isn't a whole bunch of them, outside of Demko, Virtanen, Boeser, Hutton or Horvat.

He's already stated those kids are part of their next core, a telling sign about McCann is he said before the trade McCann has a "chance" to be part of that group, obviously he knew he was gonna deal him.

As I said, Brendan Dillion and Erik Gudbranson are very similar type players, which is fine, but your example is a 30 goal 25 year old player. He just paid a player picked in the first round, a 2nd & 4th round pick for a physical defenseman....how much do you think a #1 center will cost?

- LeftCoaster


You're high. Again I will trust Benning's decisions over posters here.

I told you it was an example , don't put too much into the names. Duchene scored 30 last year not the year before or the year before.

I said start with Tryamkin because Sakic said he wants a big young Dman. Tryamkin is high risk high reward.

You add to the deal . JV as much as everyone likes him is tradable. He is a highly drafted kid that is a few years away from being an impact player. You add a draft pick from 2017 and Colorado are listening.

I doubt Oilers are trading Hall for Duchene , or Winnipeg are trading Schieffle . Arizona are not trading Strome so who is trading for Duchene.

He was apparently on the trade block last year at TDL and no takers .
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 9 @ 9:51 PM ET


(frank) me people need to get off the bong and be realistic.

- LeftCoaster

It's comforting to know that Benning never pays a heavy price in his trades to get the player he wants. So we have that going for us.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jun 9 @ 9:54 PM ET
you guys and your pipe-dream roster moves are funny! I trust that Benning won't trade anymore talented youth like McCann, he can't afford to. Plus there isn't a whole bunch of them, outside of Demko, Virtanen, Boeser, Hutton or Horvat.

He's already stated those kids are part of their next core, a telling sign about McCann is he said before the trade, McCann has a "chance" to be part of that group, obviously he knew he was gonna deal him.

As I said, Brendan Dillion and Erik Gudbranson are very similar type players, which is fine, but your example is a 30 goal 25 year old player. He just paid a 19 yr old NHL player picked in the first round, a 2nd & 4th round pick for a physical defenseman....how much do you think a #1 center will cost?

- LeftCoaster

Gudbranson is better then Dillon. Tryamkin is closer to Dillon than Dillon is to Gudbranson.
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