But who is paying the price ? Do you think Coyotes are giving up Strome ?
- VANTEL

I'm not saying that it will be Ari including Stroke but I think it would have to be Dominican as a starter plus plus even then I don't think it would work. That's why thithinkit's too tough to trade, not impossible but has to be an impact player now and probably picks back. Maybe Tampa trades with them.

I would take Bo also over RNH .

Like I said Oilers have Jesus Hall Draisitl and then it drops off on forwards

Nurse and then it drops off on D

They have four very good pieces but they been at this building for a decade.


Jesus is a very good player but how long do you think it takes teams to figure out shut him down and shut down the team.
- VANTEL

They have to be thinking of moving the Nuge. Seems like the easiest guy to pick out as someone needing a change of scenery. Maybe Yak as well.

What does Yak Nuge and a 4th overall get you that is available?

I'm not saying that it will be Ari including Stroke but I think it would have to be Dominican as a starter plus plus even then I don't think it would work. That's why thithinkit's too tough to trade, not impossible but has to be an impact player now and probably picks back. Maybe Tampa trades with them.
- allsports

Arizona won't give up Domi .They won't give up Duclair or OEL. No one is giving up top players. Duchene was on the trade block at TDL the asking price was too much

How many first round picks have made it in the last 10 years onto the Wings. Mantha hasnt fully made the team so don't say him.

Larkin and who else?
- VANTEL

It's not about JUST 1st round picks, but I'll answer that in a second, it's about building from ALL seven rounds.

Keep in mind the Wings went to two Cup finals in the past ten years and they've never missed the playoffs in that time either. They've traded away four 1st round picks, drafted six times in the 1st round, three of those picks are on their team, Mantha makes four. So four of six...pretty damn good.

In the past ten years they've drfated ten players who've played 100 or more NHL games for them, while winning a Cup and going to another final. By comparison, the Canucks have one, Bo Horvat.

They have to be thinking of moving the Nuge. Seems like the easiest guy to pick out as someone needing a change of scenery. Maybe Yak as well.

What does Yak Nuge and a 4th overall get you that is available?
- WhatTheNuck

What do you expect back for RNH? I know if I was GM I am not giving back top players. I give back a top prospect and a pick . So they start over again

Arizona won't give up Domi .They won't give up Duclair or OEL. No one is giving up top players. Duchene was on the trade block at TDL the asking price was too much
- VANTEL

You are

It's not about JUST 1st round picks, but I'll answer that in a second, it's about building from ALL seven rounds.

Keep in mind the Wings went to two Cup finals in the past ten years and they've never missed the playoffs in that time either. They've traded away four 1st round picks, drafted six times in the 1st round, three of those picks are on their team, Mantha makes four. So four of six...pretty damn good.

In the past ten years they've drfated ten players who've played 100 or more NHL games for them, while winning a Cup and going to another final. By comparison, the Canucks have one, Bo Horvat.
- LeftCoaster

Wings for 7 years have been middle of the road. They will be no different than us . The need to change their core.

Yes they have later round picks so do we Hutton Tryamkin. We had more first round picks this year on our roster than they did.

What do you expect back for RNH? I know if I was GM I am not giving back top players. I give back a top prospect and a pick . So they start over again
- VANTEL

Exactly. Here's our worst first round picks. I'll bet they still finish in bottom 10 next year unless they make a huge trade. Blockbuster style.

Arizona won't give up Domi .They won't give up Duclair or OEL. No one is giving up top players. Duchene was on the trade block at TDL the asking price was too much
- VANTEL

You answered your own question Ari won't give up those guys because its their top guys and Duchene is way better than Domi or Strome. On another note, damn spell check!

Wings for 7 years have been middle of the road. They will be no different than us . The need to change their core.

Yes they have later round picks so do we Hutton Tryamkin. We had more first round picks this year on our roster than they did.
- VANTEL

We were a bottom 3 team, not a playoff team. Also, out of those 1st round picks that were drafted by Vancouver......how many remain?

You are
- LeftCoaster

I am not so sure Tryamkin and Virtanen are regarded as top players throughout the league . I know I never looked as McCann as a top player.

Exactly. Here's our worst first round picks. I'll bet they still finish in bottom 10 next year unless they make a huge trade. Blockbuster style.
- WhatTheNuck

RNH is 23 years old and has twice scored 56 points.....he's not exactly junk.

We were a bottom 3 team, not a playoff team. Also, out of those 1st round picks that were drafted by Vancouver......how many remain?
- golfingsince

Bo JV Daniel and Hank Gaunce Shink , how many on Det?

If Lefty is adding Mantha and his 2 games I am adding Shink and his one game

I am not so sure Tryamkin and Virtanen are regarded as top players throughout the league . I know I never looked as McCann as a top player.
- VANTEL

Virtanen is a really solid young player, he drives possession like few 19 year olds can. He's undervalued by you IMO.

Exactly. Here's our worst first round picks. I'll bet they still finish in bottom 10 next year unless they make a huge trade. Blockbuster style.
- WhatTheNuck

Definitely agree.

VAN trades to #7, Vantel is the winner of this summers Trollfest!

Virtanen is a really solid young player, he drives possession like few 19 year olds can. He's undervalued by you IMO.
- LeftCoaster

Not at all . If I undervalued him would I think he would be in a Duchene proposal?

Bo JV Daniel and Hank , how many on Det?
- VANTEL

Dylan Larkin, Anthony Mantha, Brendan Smith & Riley Sheahan.

All from the past 10 years....Canucks have Horvat & Virtanen from the past ten years.

VAN trades to #7, Vantel is the winner of this summers Trollfest!
- VanHockeyGuy

Bo JV Daniel and Hank , how many on Det?
- VANTEL

5. Now do 2nd round picks...

Dylan Larkin, Anthony Mantha, Brendan Smith & Riley Sheahan.

All from the past 10 years....Canucks have Horvat & Virtanen from the past ten years.
- LeftCoaster

Kronwall too

Dylan Larkin, Anthony Mantha, Brendan Smith & Riley Sheahan.

All from the past 10 years....Canucks have Horvat & Virtanen from the past ten years.
- LeftCoaster

We win Shink Gaunce Bo McCann Danny Hank and JV


Nice try with the 10 years

Kronwall too
- golfingsince

7-5 Canucks

RNH is 23 years old and has twice scored 56 points.....he's not exactly junk.
- golfingsince

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't even imply that.

Absolutely has potential but I think what I was getting at was if they are asking for someone they want, they will get asked about other players first.

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't even imply that.

Absolutely has potential but I think what I was getting at was if they are asking for someone they want, they will get asked about other players first.
- WhatTheNuck

I guess so, and they still could trade one of those other players and be fine offensively.