Numbers dictate he's not a good shutdown guy, but he is physical, plays better when he's partnered with an offensive player and he doesn't have to touch the puck a bunch.
- LeftCoaster

How can you be in favor of signing Lucic but not thinking Gudbranson is a good fit?

I watched a few of the panther games and gubber was often stuck with Campbell who is an absolute nightmare in his own end and gubber's numbers suffered as a result.

I think him and hutton have a chance to be a fantastic combo.... at least hutton knows where his own is, unlike campbell
- Mungo

Actually Gudbransons numbers improved when paired with Campbell, his shot suppression and corsi-for were better.

"It’s troubling that other defencemen around the league appeared to do better with similar usage to Gudbranson, but there’s just a little bit more context to draw in here.

One interesting thing to note is the one name consistently at or near the bottom of the chart, below Gudbranson’s: Willie Mitchell. At 39, the former Canuck doesn’t appear to be the defensive stalwart he once was. He was also one of Gudbranson’s most common defence partners.

There’s an argument to be made, then, that Mitchell dragged Gudbranson down, with the caveat that they faced difficult minutes together.

Gudbranson’s other defence partner last season was Brian Campbell. When they skated together, they posted a 52.5% corsi and had a goals for percentage of 62.5%.

You could argue that Campbell carried that pairing, but it seems clear that Gudbranson didn’t drag Campbell down, at the very least. When Campbell was paired with Mitchell, on the other hand, they had a corsi of 43.5%.

Gudbranson certainly played easier minutes when with Campbell—they got a lot more offensive zone starts together than when Gudbranson was paired with Mitchell—but it’s not outrageous to suggest that pairing Gudbranson with an offensive-minded partner could work out well.

Why, hello there, Ben Hutton. Didn’t see you standing there.

It also helps that the Canucks already have a pairing that can handle the tough minutes: Alex Edler and Chris Tanev. Relieved from the burden of playing primarily in the defensive zone, and matched with a puck-moving partner, Gudbranson might thrive."

Ryan Miller for Bozak?

Why is he suddenly "premier"? Because he wears a Vancouver sweater?

My opinion is he's a #4 guy, I like him, but he's a #4 guy until he proves otherwise.
- LeftCoaster

I don't see a #4 dman as "just depth". I see him as in-between a #3 and #4 defenseman. He is still growing, and will likely be better than whoever we would get at 33OA until he starts to decline(at least 6 years for that unless major injury).

(frank) me people need to get off the bong and be realistic.
- LeftCoaster

How can you be in favor of signing Lucic but not thinking Gudbranson is a good fit?
- VANTEL

I said he is a good fit, didn't you read what I wrote? I just said he's not as good as some are making him out to be as a shutdown dman. But his physicality is sorely needed, Hutton should thrive with him as a partner.

I think it's time for whiskey.
- WhatTheNuck

I said he is a good fit, didn't you read what I wrote? I just said he's not as good as some are making him out to be as a shutdown dman. But his physicality is sorely needed, Hutton should thrive with him as a partner.
- LeftCoaster

I did read but it doesn't make sense. I am still trying to figure out the Guddy to Dillon comparrison

Take off the fan hat and put on the owners hat for a few minutes.

My GM has change the look of this team in 2 years.

My GM has drafted Boeser at 24 , Demko at second round , and Tryamkin in the third round. All three should be playing in the NHL by next year. Why do I need to finish bottom 10 when he can find players like this later on?

If I am trying to tank why am I paying 2 guys who are 36 years old 14 mil?

I am paying 70 million in players salary I want a winner.

I want to put out a product now , not in five to 10 years that fans want to see.

I have two guys that are 36 that I want to build a solid team around because I think our best chance is now.


This is why Canucks are in a win now. They don't need 23 players under 25 on the roster.

I am sure Aquillini has told Benning fix it now.
- VANTEL

let me simplify that for you: make me as much money now as you can. sacrifice the longer term goals if you have to.

Ryan Miller for Bozak?
- mr.sir

Bozak is overpaid and redundant in our lineup. Miller for a 2nd and were talking turkey

I did read but it doesn't make sense. I am still trying to figure out the Guddy to Dillon comparrison
- VANTEL

It's an awful comparison, Dillon doesn't have nearly as much experience and is currently simply not a top-4 defender. Both players have upside and are first round picks, that's about where the comparison ends IMO

Take off the fan hat and put on the owners hat for a few minutes.

My GM has change the look of this team in 2 years.

My GM has drafted Boeser at 24 , Demko at second round , and Tryamkin in the third round. All three should be playing in the NHL by next year. Why do I need to finish bottom 10 when he can find players like this later on?

If I am trying to tank why am I paying 2 guys who are 36 years old 14 mil?

I am paying 70 million in players salary I want a winner.

I want to put out a product now , not in five to 10 years that fans want to see.

I have two guys that are 36 that I want to build a solid team around because I think our best chance is now.


This is why Canucks are in a win now. They don't need 23 players under 25 on the roster.

I am sure Aquillini has told Benning fix it now.
- VANTEL

Vantel, the Canucks are not a very good team, you need to get that thru your head! They have two true top six players on their team, do you get that?

Benning can try as he might but he's not gonna pull a contender outta his ass any time soon. The Cauncks will compete, as contenders, again, but not any time soon. It'll be because of the kids he's drafting and the young depth he's built.

For now he's simply building a bubble team, they'll compete, but they're far from having a sniff at winning a Cup.

I really don't know how people here can say we are not a playoff team when we have no idea how next years roster will look.

We are adding Rodin Tryamkin Larsen a Gudbrandson in the last two months and we haven't even hit the beginning of summer yet. We have the draft , and free agency aand unlike Lefty I believe there is more trading to go on.

I think Benning has been given the word to make this team a playoff team and unlike years past it will be more skilled and tougher.

Vantel, the Canucks are not a very good team, you need to get that thru your head! They have two true top six players on their team, do you get that?

Benning can try as he might but he's not gonna pull a contender outta his ass any time soon. The Cauncks will compete, as contenders, again, but not any time soon. It'll be because of the kids he's drafting and the young depth he's built.

For now he's simply building a bubble team, they'll compete, but they're far from having a sniff at winning a Cup.
- LeftCoaster

Well you have been wrong about most things so you can add this to your list

We did have a bad top 6 Vrbata Higgins Hansen Burrows. I don't think they play here anymore

Vantel, the Canucks are not a very good team, you need to get that thru your head! They have two true top six players on their team, do you get that?

Benning can try as he might but he's not gonna pull a contender outta his ass any time soon. The Cauncks will compete, as contenders, again, but not any time soon. It'll be because of the kids he's drafting and the young depth he's built.

For now he's simply building a bubble team, they'll compete, but they're far from having a sniff at winning a Cup.
- LeftCoaster

I admire your persistence.

I did read but it doesn't make sense. I am still trying to figure out the Guddy to Dillon comparrison
- VANTEL

They're both hard to play against, big, physical, have a lot of defensive zone starts, but bring little offence...enough?

I admire your persistence.
- RealityChecker

I'm not tired yet, soon though!

I really don't know how people here can say we are not a playoff team when we have no idea how next years roster will look.

We are adding Rodin Tryamkin Larsen a Gudbrandson in the last two months and we haven't even hit the beginning of summer yet. We have the draft , and free agency aand unlike Lefty I believe there is more trading to go on.

I think Benning has been given the word to make this team a playoff team and unlike years past it will be more skilled and tougher.
- VANTEL

Bottom line: we still need scoring. Erikson would help, Yandle or someone of the ilk would help. But we sorely lack secondary scoring. Bo/Sven/JV I do expect to produce more given a healthy roster, but still we need more that is what I expect JB to address in UFA's and trades at this point. Or we miss the dance again, which I for one am fine with.

I admire your persistence.
- RealityChecker

Who is our top 6 next year?

They're both hard to play against, big, physical, have a lot of defensive zone starts, but bring little offence...enough?
- LeftCoaster

I am pretty sure they didnt bring him in to score 50 points . that will be someone else's job.

He is brought in to shut down and protect

I am pretty sure they didnt bring him in to score 50 points . that will be someone else's job.

He is brought in to shut down and protect
- VANTEL

Much like Dillon does.

Much like Dillon does.
- LeftCoaster

So if thats the case Sven baertchi is comparable to Patrick Kane? They are both paid to score goals.

It's an awful comparison, Dillon doesn't have nearly as much experience and is currently simply not a top-4 defender. Both players have upside and are first round picks, that's about where the comparison ends IMO
- neem55

#1 - Dillon was never drafted.
#2 - Dillion's played 285 NHL games, Gubranson 309

So if thats the case Sven baertchi is comparable to Patrick Kane? They are both paid to score goals.
- VANTEL

No, that's childish, their numbers are nothing alike. Unlike Dillion and Gudbranson. And I'm not talking about their goals and assists.

Their deployment is very similar, do you know how to look that stuff up?

No, that's childish, their numbers are nothing alike. Unlike Dillion and Gudbranson. And I'm not talking about their goals and assists.
- LeftCoaster

As is comparing Dillon to Guddy