- A_SteamingLombardi

okay, so 99% chance JB screws up the draft, Utica is folded because we don't have any prospects, lets just move onto the free agency

Each spot in top 10 would require approx a 2nd each, the closer to 1OA you want the more it costs. once you get passed the 5th it probably costs a 2nd+3rd for each spot(estimated). The Talent gap between 5-9 is pretty big. Talent gap seems to be top 3, then 4/5, then 6-10.
- Retinalz

Good luck picking 5th then. Has your gm made a competent trade yet? The way your gm operates it seems like he'd be the one throwing in picks to trade down.

Good luck picking 5th then. Has your gm made a competent trade yet? The way your gm operates it seems like he'd be the one throwing in picks to trade down.
- 1993_Cup_Champs

So our prospect depth is worse now than under Gillis? Genius
- CanuckDon

I am baffled with how someone can say our prospect depth is bad. Its been much much better just since JB arrived. I dont like every move JB has made, but he has basically brought in players within the age range of 20-24 through minor trades, college FA's, and one year of drafting.

I think there is a clear direction once they traded for Gudbranson and that is to be back to cup contention within 3-5 years. The problem is that they need to have Etem, Vey, Tryamkin, Hutton, Virtanen and Horvat to improve. They still have two wild cards in Rodin and Larsen for next year. We can all agree we are a younger team and we are much deeper on the prospect side than previously under Gillis.

It's definitely not quite where we all want it to be, but the sky isnt falling either. This draft only furthers the depth. If we get another first line player in Dubois/Tkachuk then potentially we just need another C/LW in the next draft or hope Horvat explodes next year and proves he might have what it takes to be a #1. Probably still a better 2C as a 2-way center but it isnt crazy to think things could get better for him.

Let's not forget Demko, Boesser, Garteig and Stetcher which will all develop properly. We had so many holes in the prospect pool because of Gillis that JB was handcuffed into finding the least expensive ways to shrinking the age gap between vets and prospects. Not everything has panned out but I have said this 100 times probably, one more year and we will see how it shapes up to be. Give it another year before you let your pessimism be your downfall. Or dont and have the rest of us say 'I told you so'.

It wouldn't be that far fetched if Dubois went at 3.
- thundachunk

I don't think so either.

- RealityChecker

I can't give ya a bam but I can give ya a green eggs and haaaaaaaaam!

I don't think so either.
- RonPielep

The only thing I know for sure is Laine and Mathews go 1 and 2. I think there is even a chance Laine could go #1. Mathews most likely because he is a center.

2hr+ till puck drop.

Other side of the coin...

73.3% Laine does not fall to 5

I am baffled with how someone can say our prospect depth is bad. Its been much much better just since JB arrived. I dont like every move JB has made, but he has basically brought in players within the age range of 20-24 through minor trades, college FA's, and one year of drafting.

I think there is a clear direction once they traded for Gudbranson and that is to be back to cup contention within 3-5 years. The problem is that they need to have Etem, Vey, Tryamkin, Hutton, Virtanen and Horvat to improve. They still have two wild cards in Rodin and Larsen for next year. We can all agree we are a younger team and we are much deeper on the prospect side than previously under Gillis.

It's definitely not quite where we all want it to be, but the sky isnt falling either. This draft only furthers the depth. If we get another first line player in Dubois/Tkachuk then potentially we just need another C/LW in the next draft or hope Horvat explodes next year and proves he might have what it takes to be a #1. Probably still a better 2C as a 2-way center but it isnt crazy to think things could get better for him.

Let's not forget Demko, Boesser, Garteig and Stetcher which will all develop properly. We had so many holes in the prospect pool because of Gillis that JB was handcuffed into finding the least expensive ways to shrinking the age gap between vets and prospects. Not everything has panned out but I have said this 100 times probably, one more year and we will see how it shapes up to be. Give it another year before you let your pessimism be your downfall. Or dont and have the rest of us say 'I told you so'.
- WhatTheNuck

Well said

The hysteria crowd acts like we are dumping 2nd round pics for plugs like Derek Roy. This management group ISN'T. Sven and EG are young and entering their prime a few years down the road. Sure, more picks would be great, but Benning can find better prospects with 5 picks than Gillis could with 10. They say if you find two NHL players that play 100 games in a draft it's successful. Does anyone think Benning won't find at least two and possibly 3 or 4?

I love when guys who have never built a NHL team, tell us how to do it, these fools are paid to talk not think, that's why Benning really sucks at talking.
- A_SteamingLombardi

This is so true. Idc at all how JB talks in pressers.
He is a workaholic & so hands on that suffices for me.

I'm with Carol on this one, How many games has Murray stolen? None in my opinion, he's played well but the team outshoots the opponent and controls the puck in the o-zone. It's Crosby or Kessel and I think Crosby's faceoffs, clutch passing and scoring has been there the whole run. Same with Kessel.
- neem55

For me i look at the goalie 1st for the Conn Smythe.
A skater has to stand out above & beyond generally to pick him.
I recall SAKIC beating us in the PO's & Roy pretty much sucked & yet still won the award. Although Roy did get it together i was a lil pissed he won it.

If Murray had been playing like this all season, then i would consider giving him the nod.
I guess i just don't like the idea of giving a hot goalie so much credit (although i recognise the importance). Crosby has played well, is the captain literally and figuratively that drives that ship.
There were other hot goalies that would probably be contenders for the Conn Smythe (TB, SJS, Wash) but they didn't make it to the finals...i give Sid the credit for that, along with the rest of the team, not just Murray.
- dbot

Ken Dryden?

probably just have to help their cap situation out a bit.
- manvanfan

I believe CBJ needs to use 3OA as leverage to gain cap space.
Whether they make the pick then trade idk.
What ever course they choose something has to give.

Bonino sitting at 7%... You trolls.

ARE YOU NUTS!!!!

Your helping a team get out of cap hell. You don't help them out. You fleece them the same way the islanders did for boychuk and dallas did for sharp.
- manvanfan

That is exactly what JB eluded to earlier with our cap space👍🏻

If they are really high on a C like Keller or Brown would they risk moving the 3OA and pick say 7 but lose out on the player they want?

I agree that they can likely get more from a team picking in 6-10 spots but it also comes with more risk they don't get the player they covet.
- belcherbd

That is easily avoided...
CBJ makes their pick with a deal ready in the event they get the player they want later. If not there then no deal.

Good luck picking 5th then. Has your gm made a competent trade yet? The way your gm operates it seems like he'd be the one throwing in picks to trade down.
- 1993_Cup_Champs

Tinordi say Bonjour

No actually dont hate that one, but thats the only one. I would have liked it alot more if he hadnt been dealing 2nd rounders the last couple years. The prospect depth just keeps getting worse and worse.

I still would have liked the full rebuild and think what the canucks are doing is a massive mistake by trying to speed things up shipping out all of our picks.
- mauryballstein

Idk about that. Yes trading away picks appears contrary to a rebuild but our prospect pool has greatly improved when compared to the past. Albeit our prospects r already in the NHL is semantics. The issue is more about JB has identified the age gap from old vets down to the kids was a big problem. Only can do so much at one time & not an easy juggling act. To address one problem means another must be sacrificed. The Q is at what price & is it going well.

Tinordi say Bonjour
- VANTEL

Yeah Tinordi, what a huge loss for that franchise, how will they ever recover after being fleeced in a trade by losing Tinordi...

Topic of conversation if anyone wants to discuss: What is Hutton's skill cap? With what we saw from him this year, ability to play lots of minutes, put up lots of assists, and the fact that he is very young I would argue he could be a decent #2 someday, although i would guess most would say 2nd pairing at best.

Conn smythe is about the playoff MVP. The regular season has no bearing it what so ever.
- thundachunk

I am aware, but disagree.
I think emotions come into play with NHL awards.
Sid is the cornerstone of the team.

Other side of the coin...

73.3% Laine does not fall to 5
- Nighthawk

Except it is a lot higher than that.

Bonino sitting at 7%... You trolls.
- NorthNuck

That is never an issue. He gives the list, and ou ask CBJ what he wants from the teams on that list that Hansen could fetch. This is why 3 way deals exist.
- Retinalz

I am down for a 3-way😜