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seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 5 @ 12:56 AM ET
I don't think u have to structure it that way though
Sure, u need some young, cheap guys...
But u can spread them out like Pitt did
Their 3rd like was higher paid that their top2 lines if I'm correct

Eventually, we will have to make tough choices
But I think we've got some time before that happens

- jdfitz77


Yeah, after i typed that, Pittsburgh did come to mind how they spread their big money players over 3 lines. The thing with Kane is, his contract is up a year after the expansion draft. So, like we said earlier, he has another year to prove himself. But if he doesnt, are we supposed to give him a raise? A long term deal? Plus, we'll have kids in rochester knocking on the door of the big club to play. I dont hate Kane like a lot of people do here. I just look at the timing of his contract. This will be a big year for him.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:02 AM ET
Kane is still a young, talented player
As of now, there's nothing he's been charged with or convicted of
Idk that we'd get back equal value,
But I'm sure there's plenty of GMs that would be interested

- jdfitz77



Hes been in the League for 7 years If he hasn't changed now he's never going to change .. He should be a leader of the team and vet

GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:04 AM ET
He withdrew his trade request.
- chilliard77


they have to trade him now they're gonna lose him in the expansion draft for sure


Or is he protected already
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:08 AM ET
they have to trade him now they're gonna lose him in the expansion draft for sure


Or is he protected already

- GERBE!!!75PTS

He does need to be protected, but you think Tampa would leave Drouin unprotected? That's stupid talk. With their roster today they'll have to leave one of Killorn or Namestnikov unprotected.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Hail Satan
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jul 5 @ 1:11 AM ET
Well, we have to expose a certain percentage of our cap. So we may end up exposing kane and Foligno.
If kane picks it up, im all for it. But when he was traded for, he was touted as a "30 goal scorer" and he ended up with 35 points total.
And we can definitely both agree that he has a year to show us otherwise.
If he blows us out of the water, then Murray has some tough decisions to make. Especially if he signs Vesey. May be Nylander is eased in on the 3rd line in 2017-18?

- seedy



That didn't make it in to the final cut. Vegas has to draft a certain amount of cap space, but teams have no "quota" to expose. If you look around the league you can find enough junk contracts. Every team has a few. And only one player per team can be picked, so it should be fairly easy to get there.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
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Jul 5 @ 1:18 AM ET
He does need to be protected, but you think Tampa would leave Drouin unprotected? That's stupid talk. With their roster today they'll have to leave one of Killorn or Namestnikov unprotected.
- chilliard77



Damn leaving one of those 2 unprotected is dumb .. Killorn send him here lol
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:21 AM ET
Hes been in the League for 7 years If he hasn't changed now he's never going to change .. He should be a leader of the team and vet
- GERBE!!!75PTS



Jagr
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:23 AM ET
Yeah, after i typed that, Pittsburgh did come to mind how they spread their big money players over 3 lines. The thing with Kane is, his contract is up a year after the expansion draft. So, like we said earlier, he has another year to prove himself. But if he doesnt, are we supposed to give him a raise? A long term deal? Plus, we'll have kids in rochester knocking on the door of the big club to play. I dont hate Kane like a lot of people do here. I just look at the timing of his contract. This will be a big year for him.
- seedy




For me, it's not so much about where the $$$ is spread out,
But where the talent is spread out
Like I mentioned before for next year, how about a 3rd line of
Nylander-Reinhart-Bailey

Let teams try & match up with that!
fastek
Buffalo Sabres
Location: CA
Joined: 02.19.2016

Jul 5 @ 1:23 AM ET
Kane is still a young, talented player
As of now, there's nothing he's been charged with or convicted of
Idk that we'd get back equal value,
But I'm sure there's plenty of GMs that would be interested

- jdfitz77


Kane isn't going anywhere ............... there's just a couple of guys on here that have hated on him the minute he put on a Sabres sweater.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:28 AM ET
Jagr
- jdfitz77



Fitz ......... Fitz..... Fitz...... *____________*. *_______*


I can't even respond to that because you know what you did
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:28 AM ET
Kane isn't going anywhere ............... there's just a couple of guys on here that have hated on him the minute he put on a Sabres sweater.
- fastek


Yet the Sabres are trying to move him
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:30 AM ET
Damn leaving one of those 2 unprotected is dumb .. Killorn send him here lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS

I assume they'll make moves accordingly.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:31 AM ET
That didn't make it in to the final cut. Vegas has to draft a certain amount of cap space, but teams have no "quota" to expose. If you look around the league you can find enough junk contracts. Every team has a few. And only one player per team can be picked, so it should be fairly easy to get there.
- Wetbandit1



Ok, gotcha
In that case, I could see them take Gorges
If Moulson can net near 20goals this year, maybe they take him off our hands
That's probably just wishful thinking though
I think at this point, I'd be happy if Moulson scored 12goals next year
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Joined: 02.11.2009

Jul 5 @ 1:31 AM ET
I assume they'll make moves accordingly.
- chilliard77



I would just trade them for picks because you know you're gonna lose them
That's why I think this deadline is going to be insane
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:31 AM ET
Yet the Sabres are trying to move him
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Seems to be the going rumour, but I don't think I've heard it from any sources that are generally reliable.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:32 AM ET
Damn leaving one of those 2 unprotected is dumb .. Killorn send him here lol
- GERBE!!!75PTS




He is such an underrated player on that team
I'd love to snag him
And I think he's a guy they eventually won't be able to pay
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San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:32 AM ET
Seems to be the going rumour, but I don't think I've heard it from any sources that are generally reliable.
- chilliard77


TSN reported it
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:34 AM ET
Fitz ......... Fitz..... Fitz...... *____________*. *_______*


I can't even respond to that because you know what you did

- GERBE!!!75PTS




Hahaha
All I'm saying, is that some guys "get it" later on
Is Kane ever gonna be Jagr?
Of course not
But he does play the game the right way and it's not too late for him to get his head on straight
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:35 AM ET
Moving Kane at this point would be incredibly stupid, especially dumping him for nothing. I'm the first one to criticize his immaturity, and want him to clean up his act, but he hasn't been convicted of anything, and he makes our team better. Dumping him one year after giving up so many assets for him makes no sense.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:36 AM ET
TSN reported it
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Where? I only saw it from Laraque
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:38 AM ET
Where? I only saw it from Laraque
- chilliard77


He works for TSN ..


If the report wasn't true then why didn't the Sabres just smash it and just come out and say it's not true ?
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:40 AM ET
He works for TSN ..


If the report wasn't true then why didn't the Sabres just smash it and just come out and say it's not true ?

- GERBE!!!75PTS

No offense to Laraque but I've never known him to be much of an insider. And that logic is like saying big foot is real because the government never came out and said he wasn't.
chilliard77
Location: AZ
Joined: 08.23.2011

Jul 5 @ 1:42 AM ET
I never liked the trade much to begin with, but it happened, and dumping the main asset from the deal would be a show of GMing similar to Mike Milbury.
seedy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: you don't need an ignore button to ignore someone., CA
Joined: 02.22.2007

Jul 5 @ 1:42 AM ET
That didn't make it in to the final cut. Vegas has to draft a certain amount of cap space, but teams have no "quota" to expose. If you look around the league you can find enough junk contracts. Every team has a few. And only one player per team can be picked, so it should be fairly easy to get there.
- Wetbandit1


Its "rumored to be" 25% of the teams total payroll.
But again, Kanes contract expires the year after. And unless he has an epic 16-17 season, why not expose him? What are we going to do? Re sign him for even MORE money than he already makes for delivering 35 points?
Dude is an average hockey player making an above average salary.
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
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Jul 5 @ 1:44 AM ET
No offense to Laraque but I've never known him to be much of an insider. And that logic is like saying big foot is real because the government never came out and said he wasn't.
- chilliard77


Well the Buffalo Sabres do own that station so that would be the reasoning for smashing it .. So you're telling me if you owned a radio program and they were giving out lies about your employees .. You wouldn't call them out

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