We don't have anyone to do a hockey trade.
- thundachunk

2nd round picks. Lefty hates them

I agree for the most part but I do think there has been a bit of contradiction at least in the image he was selling initially. Hearing them say a few times that they weren't going to take shortcuts but watching them specifically targeting a lot of players who they hope would be ready sooner goes contrary to that statement.

As many have said though it doesn't matter what he says, only what he does and it's pretty clear by the teams actions that the goal is to continue to compete every year. Something that I support and enjoy, despite like you said having concerns about the viability of it or ability to accomplish it.
- belcherbd

It's semantics. There was definitely an age gap that needed to be filled, the problem is to fill it means you pretty much have to go after unproven players that are no longer waiver exempt. It's a risk, but I'm not sure it's a shortcut.

I don't think anyone misunderstands what Benning is trying to do. He has been pretty explicit about it and nothing he's done contridicts what he has said. I think where people have issues is 1) the viability of his plan, or 2) his ability to do it. And the thing is, they might be right. As for myself, I'm willing to give him the rope. I like a lot of the things he's done and I'm actually pretty excited to see what the team looks like next season.
- CubanBuffet

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.
- manvanfan

Probably because hysteria sells.

Then we need a 1/2 defence man coming back. I don't see that happening.
- thundachunk

True as Edler is only worth a 3/4 Dman coming back. JB will have to figure out another way to get a true 1-2 Dman which we still don't have.

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.
- manvanfan

A lot of it is due to the fact that we've been good for so long, we don't have anyone ready to replace the Sedins and they're still our best players by a longshot. It's also the fact that Benning isn't a great public speaker and makes mistakes by being honest with the media strangely making people think that because he's so horribad at dealing with the media, he must be a horribad GM. It's also that Toronto is doing a teardown and if they're doing it, it must immediately become the best way to build a franchise, because hey, it's Toronto and the Maple Leafs ARE the NHL and everyone else are just pretenders to the crown.

A lot of it is due to the fact that we've been good for so long, we don't have anyone ready to replace the Sedins and they're still our best players by a longshot. It's also the fact that Benning isn't a great public speaker and makes mistakes by being honest with the media strangely making people think that because he's so horribad at dealing with the media, he must be a horribad GM. It's also that Toronto is doing a teardown and if they're doing it, it must immediately become the best way to build a franchise, because hey, it's Toronto and the Maple Leafs ARE the NHL and everyone else are just pretenders to the crown.
- DariusKnight

Pretty much, drafting was so bad for so long, struggling to catch up. I think JB has done well drafting so far, adding FA college players. His trading I'm not in love with but I don't hate. It sure looks a lot better then it did years ago

True as Edler is only worth a 3/4 Dman coming back. JB will have to figure out another way to get a true 1-2 Dman which we still don't have.
- LordHumungous

Draft them.

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.
- manvanfan

We sucked for one year with an unusual amount of injuries.

Draft them.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yeah I thought that's what we just did?

Probably because hysteria sells.
- Marwood

Austin Matthews sells

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.
- manvanfan

1)The media's concerned with pushing content, they're trying to sell their product like any other business. As long as you're capable of critical thought you should be able to form your own opinion.

2)Lumping all of the media together is a mistake. Carol, for example, is a member of the media, producing content for this site and others. She isn't constantly ripping the Canucks, or acting as a cheerleader for them.

3)Who cares if the media as a whole is ripping Benning? He's a big boy making big bucks and seems confident enough to not be swayed by their opinions. I doubt negative publicity will alter his course at all. Are we, as Canuck fans, so insecure that we require universal approval of our team?

Yeah I thought that's what we just did?
- NorthNuck

It that #1 D prospect is there again next draft, do the same.

Austin Matthews sells
- CanuckDon

In Toronto so would have McDavid, Ekblad, McKinnon, hell even Yakupov. They would latch on to whoever the team and the media sold them on.

Yeah I thought that's what we just did?
- NorthNuck

We sucked for one year with an unusual amount of injuries.
- VANTEL

Exactly

It that #1 D prospect is there again next draft, do the same.
- VanHockeyGuy

I agree, if we are in a spot in the draft where there is a potential 1D I would have no problem making that pick, that just means we will have to trade for another C though.

Problem is the media is telling everyone that when you suck, you should tear it down immediately. If you want to draft and develop that you need a bunch of extra draft picks and they need to be high in each round. A lot of that isn't true at all but that's all you ever hear from the media. Benning has said he wants to win. He is picking us pieces to help this team win. Why can't the media look at these things and figure it out.
- manvanfan

I think part of it is also that pissed off people are more vocal. I am pleased with the direction of the team so I don't take management polls or call into radio shows. The hysterics are more likely to be vocal. I can get my fix on HockeyBuzz by correcting posters when they are wrong

1)The media's concerned with pushing content, they're trying to sell their product like any other business. As long as you're capable of critical thought you should be able to form your own opinion.

2)Lumping all of the media together is a mistake. Carol, for example, is a member of the media, producing content for this site and others. She isn't constantly ripping the Canucks, or acting as a cheerleader for them.

3)Who cares if the media as a whole is ripping Benning? He's a big boy making big bucks and seems confident enough to not be swayed by their opinions. I doubt negative publicity will alter his course at all.
- CubanBuffet

Yeah but the idiot fans that only follow the media are making the people who actually know a little about hockey look like morons because we are lumped in together as fans.

1)The media's concerned with pushing content, they're trying to sell their product like any other business. As long as you're capable of critical thought you should be able to form your own opinion.

2)Lumping all of the media together is a mistake. Carol, for example, is a member of the media, producing content for this site and others. She isn't constantly ripping the Canucks, or acting as a cheerleader for them.

3)Who cares if the media as a whole is ripping Benning? He's a big boy making big bucks and seems confident enough to not be swayed by their opinions. I doubt negative publicity will alter his course at all.
- CubanBuffet

I agree with a lot of this, but public perception is a huge deal to Aquilini, just ask Mike Gillis.

In Toronto so would have McDavid, Ekblad, McKinnon, hell even Yakupov. They would latch on to whoever the team and the media sold them on.
- NorthNuck

Bozak and Polak

I think part of it is also that pissed off people are more vocal. I am pleased with the direction of the team so I don't take management polls or call into radio shows. The hysterics are more likely to be vocal. I can get my fix on HockeyBuzz by correcting posters when they are wrong
- CanuckDon

You are right. Half a dozen screaming idiots like Taj and Tambir will get a lot more attention than 100 content fans.

I think part of it is also that pissed off people are more vocal. I am pleased with the direction of the team so I don't take management polls or call into radio shows. The hysterics are more likely to be vocal. I can get my fix on HockeyBuzz by correcting posters when they are wrong
- CanuckDon

Taj is a Hysteric.

Edit; Vantel beat me^

I agree, if we are in a spot in the draft where there is a potential 1D I would have no problem making that pick, that just means we will have to trade for another C though.
- NorthNuck

That strategy has worked well for Nashville. They really didnt need to draft Seth Jones, they already had a stud lineup of D and now they have a 1C in Johansen

At what age do you stop playing in the young stars tournament?