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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Linden was traded out of Vancouver, and his legacy is unfettered... Maybe the Sedins should waive in the same manner.. to come back in a similar role after retirement! What could we get for them... (kind of sort of kinda sarcastic maybe) - VIRTBOHUT
Hard to say at this stage, as it would depend on so many factors to line up.
But if you imagine that the Sedins are still performing at a similar, high end clip...
and you imagine that the season is in the crapper and we are dumping players at the TDL...
and there is a team out there with some a really strong 1st line, and injuries or whatever result in them needing some top 6 scoring support (kinda like Florida was this year or TBL or Dallas...
i'd say you could ask for two 1st's, 2 blue chip prospects and a salary dump or two. |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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Why are you throwing in players like Burrows and Gaunce? No one wants them and it's really unrealistic.
Right now, I wouldn't trade any of those three kids. Because the team isn't in a position to win with Landeskog in the lineup, I mean win a Cup. You're cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Virtanen and Boeser could turn into Landeskog very shortly....have patience and build from within. - LeftCoaster
So...you wouldn't trade JV for Landeskog because JV could become Landeskog?
I wouldn't do all 3 for him, but would do any one of em. I added Gaunce as a prospect and Burrows for salary, and well, he's french.
Landy is 23, big and scores about 25 g and 35 a in past 3 years. Sign me up!
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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So...you wouldn't trade JV for Landeskog because JV could become Landeskog?
I wouldn't do all 3 for him, but would do any one of em. I added Gaunce as a prospect and Burrows for salary, and well, he's french.
Landy is 23, big and scores about 25 g and 35 a in past 3 years. Sign me up!
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That's correct! Because trading youth when you're not in a position to win is ridiculous. How did trading two 1st's and a 2nd work out for Toronto in the Kessel deal?
You're not getting Landeskog for anything less than a 1st round pick, Virtanen and another prospect...at this point in the clubs rebuild that's just simply stupid.
The team has so many question marks and holes yet to fill I don't know where to start. Benning wouldn't do it, I guarantee it. |
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That's correct! Because trading youth when you're not in a position to win is ridiculous. How did trading two 1st's and a 2nd work out for Toronto in the Kessel deal?
You're not getting Landeskog for anything less than a 1st round pick, Virtanen and another prospect...at this point in the clubs rebuild that's just simply stupid.
The team has so many question marks and holes yet to fill I don't know where to start. Benning wouldn't do it, I guarantee it. - LeftCoaster
We are gonna win this season you watch. |
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So...you wouldn't trade JV for Landeskog because JV could become Landeskog?
I wouldn't do all 3 for him, but would do any one of em. I added Gaunce as a prospect and Burrows for salary, and well, he's french.
Landy is 23, big and scores about 25 g and 35 a in past 3 years. Sign me up!
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I think a future line of Landy Bo and Boeser would be more effective than JV Bo and Boeser
JV and 2017 first ( 17 th overall) |
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dbot
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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That's correct! Because trading youth when you're not in a position to win is ridiculous. How did trading two 1st's and a 2nd work out for Toronto in the Kessel deal?
You're not getting Landeskog for anything less than a 1st round pick, Virtanen and another prospect...at this point in the clubs rebuild that's just simply stupid.
The team has so many question marks and holes yet to fill I don't know where to start. Benning wouldn't do it, I guarantee it. - LeftCoaster
I agree with this, to a point.
i'm not advocating trading JV for a 30 year old (or a 1 dimensional overweight Kessel), but for a proven 23 yr old PWF, i definitely would.
I also wouldn't pay what you're suggesting and agree that we can't afford him, but in fantasy land, i would be comfortable with my offer.
edit. or Vantel's offer. |
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That's correct! Because trading youth when you're not in a position to win is ridiculous. How did trading two 1st's and a 2nd work out for Toronto in the Kessel deal?
You're not getting Landeskog for anything less than a 1st round pick, Virtanen and another prospect...at this point in the clubs rebuild that's just simply stupid.
The team has so many question marks and holes yet to fill I don't know where to start. Benning wouldn't do it, I guarantee it. - LeftCoaster
Boston traded Seguin Hamilton and Erikson . They didn't do any better |
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I think a future line of Landy Bo and Boeser would be more effective than JV Bo and Boeser
JV and 2017 first ( 17 th overall) - VANTEL
Don't sell the farm. I keep JV over Landeskog. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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We are gonna win this season you watch. - thundachunk
 don't start...they're not gonna win anything. But they'll be more competitive.
Trading for Landeskog is something you do when you've drafted and developed a core of players and you can now afford to divest in some picks and prospects. Like the Kings did when they acquired Richards and Carter. They had a good group but needed to get over the hump, the Canucks are not there by any stretch....yet.
The Canucks just started drafting well, they can't afford to trade anymore youth IMO. |
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don't start...they're not gonna win anything. But they'll be more competitive.
Trading for Landeskog is something you do when you've drafted and developed a core of players and you can now afford to divest in some picks and prospects. Like the Kings did when they acquired Richards and Carter. They had a good group but needed to get over the hump, the Canucks are not there by any stretch....yet.
The Canucks just started drafting well, they can't afford to trade anymore youth IMO. - LeftCoaster
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SMBDragon
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Location: Escaped from Krypton Joined: 07.29.2010
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where did all this Landeskog trade talk come from? Havent seen a single news item or rumor that suggested this.
Sounds like everyone is wasting their time on a trade idea with no basis |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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where did all this Landeskog trade talk come from? Havent seen a single news item or rumor that suggested this.
Sounds like everyone is wasting their time on a trade idea with no basis - SMBDragon
The heck you say!
This whole site is based around the concept of wasting time!
It's what we do!!! |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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I agree with this, to a point.
i'm not advocating trading JV for a 30 year old (or a 1 dimensional overweight Kessel), but for a proven 23 yr old PWF, i definitely would.
I also wouldn't pay what you're suggesting and agree that we can't afford him, but in fantasy land, i would be comfortable with my offer.
edit. or Vantel's offer. - dbot
It's a total pipe-dream, Colorado, who are ready to compete, would want to replace what he brings, they're not rebuilding. It doesn't benefit them in any way.
Trying to get a guy like Landy is a shortcut; draft and develop our own players. Benning should and would be fired for trading a 1st round pick when the team is so poopty. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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 - thundachunk
Oh they're real brother....don't kid yourself |
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where did all this Landeskog trade talk come from? Havent seen a single news item or rumor that suggested this.
Sounds like everyone is wasting their time on a trade idea with no basis - SMBDragon
That would never happen here. |
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LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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where did all this Landeskog trade talk come from? Havent seen a single news item or rumor that suggested this.
Sounds like everyone is wasting their time on a trade idea with no basis - SMBDragon
I firmly believe it's from all the marijuana |
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dbot
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Auckland -Burn it all down Joined: 10.22.2008
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It's a total pipe-dream, Colorado, who are ready to compete, would want to replace what he brings, they're not rebuilding. It doesn't benefit them in any way.
Trying to get a guy like Landy is a shortcut; draft and develop our own players. Benning should and would be fired for trading a 1st round pick when the team is so poopty. - LeftCoaster
i guess we'll agree to disagree on that one then.
i'd be stoked, the team would be better and we'd add another Swede.
but you're right, it is a pipe dream. refer to the above post. |
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It's a total pipe-dream, Colorado, who are ready to compete, would want to replace what he brings, they're not rebuilding. It doesn't benefit them in any way.
Trying to get a guy like Landy is a shortcut; draft and develop our own players. Benning should and would be fired for trading a 1st round pick when the team is so poopty. - LeftCoaster
Canuck will try to make a big move while the twins are here. If they aren't going to try to win you may as well move them.
Whether you, I or anyone wants it or not, the man who pays the pay checks wants to win now. |
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Oh they're real brother....don't kid yourself  - LeftCoaster
I do agree we are not in a position to be making a move like that at this point. I think Benning is trying to remain competitive and shelter the youth coming up. Making a push right now is not a smart move. I have no problem with adding a free agent piece like Erikssen but selling at the expense of our future should not and must not happen. |
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Canuck will try to make a big move while the twins are here. If they aren't going to try to win you may as well move them.
Whether you, I or anyone wants it or not, the man who pays the pay checks wants to win now. - VANTEL
Trying to win is fine but trading JV for Landeskog only improves 1 position 2 years earlier. Also it take away the intangibles that JV already brings that GL doesn't. |
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Trying to win is fine but trading JV for Landeskog only improves 1 position 2 years earlier. Also it take away the intangibles that JV already brings that GL doesn't. - thundachunk
One is proven and now, the other is a future project. |
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One is proven and now, the other is a future project. - VANTEL
If this were to take place I feel it would be a mistake. If somehow the addition of GL brought us a Stanley cup I would be fine with it even if JV went on to have a HOF career in Colorado but at this time it wouldn't happen. I don't think that it would make that big of a difference adding him right now. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Island City, BC Joined: 07.03.2009
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Canuck will try to make a big move while the twins are here. If they aren't going to try to win you may as well move them.
Whether you, I or anyone wants it or not, the man who pays the pay checks wants to win now. - VANTEL
I seriously doubt it, they've stated they won't trade the core they're building, Bennng actually said "McCann has a chance to be a part of that" so he obviously had a deal in place or wasn't thrilled with him.
Regardless, I don't think Linden would allow Benning to trade anymore youth. To me, Linden is more on the rebuild train than Benning is, and he's Bennings boss.
I believe Aquilini wants to be more competitive, but he's not stupid, and Linden has his ear. Linden has said repeatedly it's gonna take some time to build. |
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Virtanen wasn't the guy I would have picked at the draft but as of now I really believe that when he gets it he could be the one of if not the most dominating power forward we ever had. I want players to be able to grow and I want to see their successes as well as failures just like Linden and the Sedins. |
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