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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:42 PM ET
and the soft hands of the statue of David. But great skater and forechecker.
- neem55

Agree about the skating but Burrows also used to be fast.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:44 PM ET
He's still number one on this team. Who's made any offers for him anyway...? Goalie market being what it is what do you expect he would get Canucks...?

Even Kings are not desperate or made any moves. Send sent like nads for their situation. Realistically with Millers' age and Cap hit what's the going to get? If this team is in the basement with no hope come TDL they may be more active if there is any buyers out there.

- Nuck4U

If Miller gets us a 3rd round pick or a prospect I'm ecstatic.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
Then trade him next year. I don't want him re-signed to a Burrows deal at 32, so we have to get something for him. He has greater value on his current contract.
- A_SteamingLombardi

I don't think he or management expects him to end up with a stupid size contract. His versatility is great for bringing kids into the lineup as he can play in the bottom 6 when you want to give others a chance on the top lines as well as top 6 if they are struggling or need fewer minutes to develop.

I would be willing to re-examine it next year however as our situation might be very different by that time.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:45 PM ET
He's still number one on this team. Who's made any offers for him anyway...? Goalie market being what it is what do you expect he would get Canucks...?

Even Kings are not desperate or made any moves. Send sent like nads for their situation. Realistically with Millers' age and Cap hit what's the going to get? If this team is in the basement with no hope come TDL they may be more active if there is any buyers out there.

- Nuck4U


They already do not have hope, I'm guessing you didn't get the memo?

We could always retain or take back salary. A team like Ottawa might work. Problem is his limited no trade might veto the whole idea. Any pick or prospect in return for Miller would be a win at any point of the season.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:47 PM ET
I don't think he or management expects him to end up with a stupid size contract. His versatility is great for bringing kids into the lineup as he can play in the bottom 6 when you want to give others a chance on the top lines as well as top 6 if they are struggling or need fewer minutes to develop.
- NorthNuck

He's getting 3mil this year and next so he's going to want that at least to re-sign and will he still be able to move up and down the line up when he's 2 years older?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 10 @ 4:47 PM ET
I don't think he or management expects him to end up with a stupid size contract. His versatility is great for bringing kids into the lineup as he can play in the bottom 6 when you want to give others a chance on the top lines as well as top 6 if they are struggling or need fewer minutes to develop.

I would be willing to re-examine it next year however as our situation might be very different by that time.

- NorthNuck



All assets should be moved for draft picks and prospects.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 10 @ 4:48 PM ET
All assets should be moved for draft picks and prospects.
- VANTEL

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 4:48 PM ET
It's not who you trade it's who you sign as UFAs and re-sign.

As for TL he's (frank)ing lying to keep seats filled.

As for what they should say, I don't care because if they keep lying I'll stop listening all together.

- A_SteamingLombardi


They signed Stecher ... good future D.

LE... well... he's in the middle I guess. He will fill in a big hole on top six as we don't have any prospects ready for years given drafting. I don't know how that hurts rebuild? They could always trade him at some point and that adds value if he's not helping with rebuild.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:49 PM ET
Agree about the skating but Burrows also used to be fast.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I have no interest in keeping Hansen, I think it would be the wrong move. Burrows hasn't been good for three years, it is easily been our worst contract for that time. Burrows was never fast, he was a moderate skater that got slower and now is not fast enough to compete at the NHL level.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Nov 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
He's getting 3mil this year and next so he's going to want that at least to re-sign and will he still be able to move up and down the line up when he's 2 years older?
- A_SteamingLombardi

As I said, revisit it in a year, but as of right now, I wouldn't trade him unless it were for something very good.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
All assets over age 25 should be moved for draft picks and prospects.
- VANTEL


fixed
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:50 PM ET
If Miller gets us a 3rd round pick or a prospect I'm ecstatic.
- A_SteamingLombardi


if we are 30 points of a playoff spot and we DONT ship out our pending UFA's or RFA's that we know we aren't going to re-sign, then I will be furious.

Hansen MUST be looked at on the open market unless the Canucks decide to protect him. If I am Vegas and he is available, he is a player I would look at grabbing.

A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
They signed Stecher ... good future D.

LE... well... he's in the middle I guess. He will fill in a big hole on top six as we don't have any prospects ready for years given drafting. I don't know how that hurts rebuild? They could always trade him at some point and that adds value if he's not helping with rebuild.

- Nuck4U

Boeser could replace Eriksson next year and LE's contract is pretty much immovable.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 4:52 PM ET
All assets should be moved for draft picks and prospects.
- VANTEL


Didn't someone run a change campaign...? How fast you want to drain the swamp...

I see the appeal of all young and fast but not like team NA all stars are available...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:53 PM ET
if we are 30 points of a playoff spot and we DONT ship out our pending UFA's or RFA's that we know we aren't going to re-sign, then I will be furious.

Hansen MUST be looked at on the open market unless the Canucks decide to protect him. If I am Vegas and he is available, he is a player I would look at grabbing.

- Codes1087


Exactly right. And he is not a player Canucks should protect. I think given their loyalty, Sedins will be protected and that doesn't leave us with many.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:54 PM ET
As I said, revisit it in a year, but as of right now, I wouldn't trade him unless it were for something very good.
- NorthNuck

As Codes just said if they don't trade Hansen this year they will have to protect him or lose him for nothing, and protecting him opens the door to losing Baer.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 10 @ 4:55 PM ET
Exactly right. And he is not a player Canucks should protect. I think given their loyalty, Sedins will be protected and that doesn't leave us with many.
- neem55


If the Canucks protect Hansen, and unprotect LE than I think he will be fine. But between Gaunce and Hansen and Baertschi, I am picking Hansen.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 4:57 PM ET
If the Canucks protect Hansen, and unprotect LE than I think he will be fine. But between Gaunce and Hansen and Baertschi, I am picking Hansen.
- Codes1087

They have to protect LE because he has a NMC.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:58 PM ET
If the Canucks protect Hansen, and unprotect LE than I think he will be fine. But between Gaunce and Hansen and Baertschi, I am picking Hansen.
- Codes1087


I haven't given up on Eriksson yet. Either way I think you're right about Hansen and that he's one of few players other teams will actually want from us. We don't have a lot of tradable commodities outside of the kids.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 4:58 PM ET
They have to protect LE because he has a NMC.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Is that a thing?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
Is that a thing?
- neem55

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).


https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 10 @ 5:01 PM ET
They have to protect LE because he has a NMC.
- A_SteamingLombardi


you are right. I forgot about that.

Which is unfortunate because as it stands TODAY, he is not really moveable with that cap hit at his current product. Not to say he won't earn that money by years end, I am just saying as of today.

Given the forwards who are currently exposed to the expansion draft, Hansen is the clear cut choice for Vegas.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 10 @ 5:03 PM ET
Boeser could replace Eriksson next year and LE's contract is pretty much immovable.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I thought BB would be filling a hole we don't have a compete top 6. Even with those two we would still have holes there. Also a lot of pressure for a rookie on a bad team to fill a top 6 off the bat.

Overwhelming a rookie like BB might ruin him. Wouldn't you like to cushion him a little with a vet like LE and Sedins? Show him the way.
Plus they are two very different players who could benefit each other.

You are right about contract it had No movement. But if Sedins are gone then he'd be our only vet. Plus think they could move him later and keep money as they will have a lot of Cap room by then.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 10 @ 5:08 PM ET
I thought BB would be filling a hole we don't have a compete top 6. Even with those two we would still have holes there. Also a lot of pressure for a rookie on a bad team to fill a top 6 off the bat.

Overwhelming a rookie like BB might ruin him. Wouldn't you like to cushion him a little with a vet like LE and Sedins? Show him the way.
Plus they are two very different players who could benefit each other.

You are right about contract it had No movement. But if Sedins are gone then he'd be our only vet. Plus think they could move him later and keep money as they will have a lot of Cap room by then.

- Nuck4U


If a player is good enough/talented enough/poised enough to play top 6 minutes, I think they should be given the opportunity to. I think its absolute garbage that rookies need to be slotted into 4th line roles/minutes or be babied/nursed into the pro game. If a player can produce playing top line minutes, than give that player those minutes. If Boeser can play, let him play. Plenty of players come into the league, transition well, and play in the top 6. This isn't a knock at Horvat for playing 4C in his rookie year at all either.

Vesey is doing just that. Laine is a more than capable 2nd liner if not first. Ehlers played top 6 in his rookie year.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 10 @ 5:09 PM ET
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).


https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592

- A_SteamingLombardi


Was wondering about how they would deal with those, cheers
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