MAKE sure he's a fiduciary.... other wise roll it all in Vegas. IT's golden there.
- Nuck4U

Seven opportunities to add new generation players out of the 1st round and we basically only have Horvat to show for it... and he had to trade an elite player who was drafted by the previous GM to accomplish this.

There is that...
- boonerbuck

I made a comparison between Washington and Vancouver one time, 2008 onward, they've had a pretty good team over that time and have selected seven players currently playing a large role on their team, the Canucks have none from our own draft picks.....extremely disappointing!

If they opened it up they'd be losing 6 or 7 - 3 every night, at least now they're keeping games close.

5 on 5 the Canucks are at the bottom of every category in the NHL...they just suck.
- LeftCoaster

Apparently they sit 13th in shot attempt differential 5 on 5: http://www.nhl.com/stats/...ed,gte,&sort=shotAttempts

They are, however sitting 28th in the league in shooting percentage at 7%, if they were shooting at league average around 8.5% they would be scoring at a rate of 16-20. Still not a good season but probably has the team a few more wins

do us a favour so we may understand you more fully:

please explain in detail (so we ralph wiggum types) can understand what you mean by willie's system(s). and please don't say that he has no system b/c that is ridiculous. please explain the system(s) detailing the break out, where players are to be positioned, the type of forecheck and the over all positioning of players in the offensive, defensive and neutral zones. start with the over all defensive and offensive philosophy and work in specifics.

thanks in advance.
- RealityChecker

Where are you going with this? Everyone that understands structure knows that you are either born with systems or you aren't

How can you prove that? What would tell you that its the players and not the coaching system that is causing the results? Thats the point we are all tire talking about. WD has had some deployment issues, that we can all see, but considering no one outside the team knows the details of the system, how can we say its the system and not the players trying to execute? We cant, because we werent born with the ability to see it
- WhiteLie

At the very least what can be seen is a trap system. LE's comment very early on about adjusting to new system as problem in scoring was no. He said it's not complicated it was simple to learn. Of course player execution plays a role. What we don't see is a high tempo team speed style. You don't need burners for that alone just make plays and positioning that brings up the pace. For example stretch passes.

Ya it's a fun place. When I worked overseas in the Middle East for five years on a 28 on 28 off schedule we'd travel around a lot on my four weeks off. Dubai is central when you're not traveling to the Americas, easy access to Europe or Asia.
- LeftCoaster

I would love to visit Dubai, definitely a bucket list item, heard similarly good things about it as a hub to visit neighboring countries

Where are you going with this? Everyone that understands structure knows that you are either born with systems or you aren't
- CanuckDon

Are you born a playoff coach?

I made a comparison between Washington and Vancouver one time, 2009 onward, they've had a pretty good team over that time and have selected seven players currently playing a large role on their team, the Canucks have none from our own draft picks.....extremely disappointing!
- LeftCoaster

Precisely why we need to be patient with Benning and give him FIVE years to find some young talent. 5 years is an extremely short rebuild when starting from...Horvat

Are you born a playoff coach?
- Marwood

Yes...but this is where it gets tricky. Some coaches are born with systems and structure but they aren't born with playoff abilities. Hence why Mike Babcock is so epic. He was born with playoffs, structure and systems. A rare, otherworldly specimen

Like we blame Gillis for or current predicament!
- LordHumungous

exactly, excellent comparison.

Precisely why we need to be patient with Benning and give him FIVE years to find some young talent. 5 years is an extremely short rebuild when starting from...Horvat
- CanuckDon

Yup I agree, I've said it before, if given the time (even though he's an idiot) he'll draft a good team IMO.

I'd actually say five more years on top of the one poopty year he had last year.

Are you born a playoff coach?
- Marwood

Yes absolutely!!!!

I would love to visit Dubai, definitely a bucket list item, heard similarly good things about it as a hub to visit neighboring countries
- WhiteLie

Very very cool city with a large collection of people from around the globe. Traffic is bad though!

At the very least what can be seen is a trap system. LE's comment very early on about adjusting to new system as problem in scoring was no. He said it's not complicated it was simple to learn. Of course player execution plays a role. What we don't see is a high tempo team speed style. You don't need burners for that alone just make plays and positioning that brings up the pace. For example stretch passes.
- Nuck4U

Ok, well seeing how we have struggled to make normal length passes, I will suggest basing your entire system on making stretch passes would be much less successful than the current one. I also dont see many players that could handle a faster pace, even Tryamkin is keeled over nearly every game. Play to your strengths and speed is not one of Vancouver's, which is why we are seeing more traps in the neutral zone

You want to label go ahead. There is no shtick here. I don't have an angenda or one track mind. I am open to discourse and discussion about a variety of topics.

If the topic is brought up like where I answered the first poster sure there are views talked about.

As for WD he's a nice guy. A players coach. But this system play isn't winning games. So why not change it up? At least make it entertaining? Or maybe he's not able?

The team is chasing the games so often does open it up or try to pressure. However, there system isn't designed to work that way and so it's not working so well.

Now, are they the best players in the NHL. NO. But that doesn't mean they aren't capable of doing more.
- Nuck4U

all righty then, so any thoughts on Dorsett playing in the last 5 mins, or JV not getting playing time and ruining his confidence...ew, ew, I know, here's a good one, what's the thought of playing Bo with Burrows and Dorsett., now there's a good topic.

Where are you going with this? Everyone that understands structure knows that you are either born with systems or you aren't
- CanuckDon

you merely adopted the systems

I was raised in it

it's well documented, I don't need to ramble on about it daily. He's in a tough spot, I get that, they can't score because they've got an offensively challenged team, thus they're trying to employ a trap system....that ain't working either.
- LeftCoaster

Nor do I lol guess I fell into Lord's trap post on WD. Actually my point today was only dispointment in Labate sitting out on call up.

Anyway just saw your answer after posting. So yeah if it isn't working do the opposite at least make it more entertaining. Maybe if they get more quality chances to score it will work better for them?

I made a comparison between Washington and Vancouver one time, 2008 onward, they've had a pretty good team over that time and have selected seven players currently playing a large role on their team, the Canucks have none from our own draft picks.....extremely disappointing!
- LeftCoaster

The generation gap is real...

What if the Sedins say (frank) it and retire after this year? Back to Slobbernovski or wherever they come from to play more Modo

Baertchi scores tonight?

Thoughts?

Ok, well seeing how we have struggled to make normal length passes, I will suggest basing your entire system on making stretch passes would be much less successful than the current one. I also dont see many players that could handle a faster pace, even Tryamkin is keeled over nearly every game. Play to your strengths and speed is not one of Vancouver's, which is why we are seeing more traps in the neutral zone
- WhiteLie

i think the canucks should play a wide open skating game with stretch passes and lots of scoring.... but they should also be a trap team that limits the other teams' chances.... they should also clog the neutral zone to create turnovers.... and generate lots of shots off the rush... and block lots of shots by collapsing the defensive zone.

it's all so effing easy which is why it's obvious to anyone that understands the game that willie d. is not an nhl calibre coach.

What if the Sedins say (frank) it and retire after this year? Back to Slobbernovski or wherever they come from to play more Modo
- LeftCoaster

Could happen.

Baertchi scores tonight?

Thoughts?
- LordHumungous

No chance. he is a bust

Istanbul is another awesome city, so much history over there!! I love traveling to those places.

I traveled around China for a few months, the history there is also amazing! The food however, not so much.
- LeftCoaster

How was the food in Turkey? I heard it was great especially the Turkish breakfast.

Nor do I lol guess I fell into Lord's trap post on WD. Actually my point today was only dispointment in Labate sitting out on call up.

Anyway just saw your answer after posting. So yeah if it isn't working do the opposite at least make it more entertaining. Maybe if they get more quality chances to score it will work better for them?
- Nuck4U

It is what it is, professional sports managers and coaches are in the winning business, not the entertainment business. They're measured by their on-ice success...that's how it works.