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RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 23 @ 6:59 PM ET
Mtl has Max Pac/Torey Mitchel/Shaw as their 3rd line according to Daily Faceoff.

Sedins could replace Pleks and Gallagher on teh 2nd line and add a solid scoring threat, and 2nd pp unit. Or play PK.

- dbot

i see what you're saying but on the other hand, if you're bergevin, are you trying to improve scoring or are you trying to make the team more "playoff resilient?"
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 23 @ 7:01 PM ET
I really want to go to Turkey to visit sites like Gobekli Tepe but that is a pretty risky adventure. I feel much safer fishing within sight of grizzly bears right now...

- boonerbuck

Oh come on....live a little.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Nov 23 @ 7:02 PM ET
i see what you're saying but on the other hand, if you're bergevin, are you trying to improve scoring or are you trying to make the team more "playoff resilient?"
- RealityChecker


a little from column A, a little from column B.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 23 @ 7:06 PM ET
on the other hand, they are some pretty nasty bruisers.

did you see daniel destroy keith's elbow and kadri's shoulder? vicious, cold blooded killers; those twins are.

- RealityChecker

Real thugs...I heard they are starring in Goon 2 due in theatres March 4th.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 23 @ 7:10 PM ET
Oh come on....live a little.
- LeftCoaster


It's too close to the Syrian border and in a Kurd contested region. Pick your poison; ISIS, Al-Qaeda, PKK or the Turks...


Safest place to visit Ancient sites right now is South America.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 7:13 PM ET
Oh I'm sure it's great...I never leave the City until I'm off on a vacation
- CanuckDon



Don't they have Walmarts in the woods?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 23 @ 7:21 PM ET
Damn straight brother!!

2008 - John Carlson 1st rnd 27th, Holtby 4th rnd 93rd vs Hodgson 8th
2009 - Johansson 1st rnd 24th, Orlov 2nd rnd 55th vs Schroeder 22nd
2010 - Kuznetsov 1st rnd 26th vs acquiring Ballard
2011 - no one vs Nick Jensen 29th
2012 - Filip Forsberg & Tom Wilson vs Gaunce 26th
2013 - Burakovsky 1st rnd 23rd vs Horvat & Shinkaruk

The Gillis era

- LeftCoaster


An ugly house of cards. But at least we got Bo. Thanks for not mentioning Patrick White further back.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 23 @ 7:27 PM ET
i'm one of the bigger sedin brothers fans on this thread but i'm not sure i disagree with you.

i don't think the team can get close to "full value" in a trade b/c the pool of teams that they would/could be traded to is very small. Start with 29 teams and cross off all non-contenders. of the contenders, how many of those would want to totally revamp their top 6 (essentially recreating a second line). remember they are contenders and by definition have cup aspirations and should already being doing well.

from the contending teams that would want 2 top 6 players, how many would want 2 players that come with their own style of play and wouldn't necessarily be able to adopt the existing style.

and we further winnow down the list of potential trade teams by asking how many could afford the cap hit. even in the last year of their deals, and the canucks retaining 50%, the real salary owed is still $7m.

you can argue that those teams would send bad contracts back. even if that is true, do real contenders really have that much dead weight cap wise?

so we get to a list of a couple/few teams that could legitimately be traded to. then we ask if the sedins would go there. if they would go there, would that team pay top dollar for the twins knowing that the list of suitors is probably very small?

essentially, when you know that you're the only or 1 of 2 teams that is willing to take the players, why would you not try to low ball? essentially, we'd be in a kesler situation.

finally, once you put the twins on the block, you can't un-ring that bell. if they didn't get traded, the press would have a field day.

tldr; i mostly agree with don.

- RealityChecker


Pretty much. Well said. Like TL said if they don't come to my door asking for a trade He's not going to ask. This is a unique situation. There isnt much value or reality to pushing a trade at this point. At the very least they are serviceable for the rebuild.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 7:29 PM ET
I was wondering that earlier this season. If this season continues to unravel and people start getting fired, why come back for one last season of utter chaos?
- Marwood



I can think of 14 million reasons. I heard the Sedins are not going back to Sweden , the kids grew up here they love Vancouver . Home
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
I can think of 14 million reasons. I heard the Sedins are not going back to Sweden , the kids grew up here they love Vancouver . Home
- VANTEL

I might know someone in the VISA department that can pull their work permits
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 7:36 PM ET
I might know someone in the VISA department that can pull their work permits
- LeftCoaster



Please phone
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 23 @ 7:38 PM ET
I can think of 14 million reasons. I heard the Sedins are not going back to Sweden , the kids grew up here they love Vancouver . Home
- VANTEL

Like I said following that post, I think they will play out their contract here.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 23 @ 7:41 PM ET
Good to know! I still have Scandinavia, Iceland and Antarctica well ahead of Dubai on my travel list, we'll see if I ever make it
- WhiteLie


I kicked the bucket list on all that and now await the good long sleep while posting on HB
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 23 @ 7:46 PM ET
Like I said following that post, I think they will play out their contract here.
- Marwood


That's a solid bet. Family and loyalty more important to them then chasing the Cup elsewhere. Look at Shane Doan in AZ he's not leaving either. Imagine him a twin.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 23 @ 7:52 PM ET
It's too close to the Syrian border and in a Kurd contested region. Pick your poison; ISIS, Al-Qaeda, PKK or the Turks...


Safest place to visit Ancient sites right now is South America.

- boonerbuck


Maybe but they have high crime areas in a third world setting. I'd go with Greece a developed Western standards Nation. Plus there's real ancient sites there galore. Take a life time to see.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 23 @ 7:56 PM ET
What are we (frank)ing talking about?

Hope it's not about the canucks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 23 @ 7:59 PM ET
Ugh I missed 7 pages but Adam Gaudette is now outscoring Brock Boeser.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 23 @ 8:00 PM ET
Apparently it's not about anything...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Nov 23 @ 8:01 PM ET
Ugh I missed 7 pages but Adam Gaudette is now outscoring Brock Boeser.
- manvanfan


An intense, hard-working forward who shows a lot of character in not backing down under adversity. A mobile and edgy skater, but needs to improve his explosiveness with the puck. Makes smart plays under pressure, never wanting to make a mistake; sometimes a bit too careful, holding onto dead plays, but this is not a problem that will be hard to curb. Likes to go hard to the nets. Needs to get stronger and more physically astute along the boards. Never backs down and never gives up; he thrives under adversity and pressure, and finds ways to come up big in the game's critical moments. All-in-all, a forceful two-way forward that can be counted on for stability and energy when his team is lacking the spirit to surge forward.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 23 @ 8:29 PM ET
An intense, hard-working forward who shows a lot of character in not backing down under adversity. A mobile and edgy skater, but needs to improve his explosiveness with the puck. Makes smart plays under pressure, never wanting to make a mistake; sometimes a bit too careful, holding onto dead plays, but this is not a problem that will be hard to curb. Likes to go hard to the nets. Needs to get stronger and more physically astute along the boards. Never backs down and never gives up; he thrives under adversity and pressure, and finds ways to come up big in the game's critical moments. All-in-all, a forceful two-way forward that can be counted on for stability and energy when his team is lacking the spirit to surge forward.


- bloatedmosquito

Where did you copy that from? I saw him play a couple of times on tv. Reminds me of Sutter.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 23 @ 8:36 PM ET
Ugh I missed 7 pages but Adam Gaudette is now outscoring Brock Boeser.
- manvanfan



Carl Neill had a goal and 3 assists last night 26 pts in 22 games
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
Carl Neill had a goal and 3 assists last night 26 pts in 22 games
- VANTEL

21 games.
Zhekunov 17 in 17
Mackenzie 27 in 22 too. I wish most of these would be doing this at 19 not 20
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 23 @ 9:06 PM ET
I just read Skille out with an injury, Labate to make his debut.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Nov 23 @ 9:07 PM ET
I just read Skille out with an injury, Labate to make his debut.
- LeftCoaster

I like Labate.
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Nov 23 @ 9:12 PM ET
I like Labate.
- thundachunk

lets hope he brings what he did in pre season
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