He could do that, but I think cases like Vrbata's happen less often than players waiving and going to contending teams.
- Codes1087

5 is not a lot of leverage for a GM though.

From this Down Goes Brown piece counting down the NHL teams most in need of a rebuild:


https://sports.vice.com/c...most-in-need-of-a-rebuild

Even if youre against the tank, its still funny
- WhiteLie

"It won't be easy. Tanking never is. But it's a necessary evil in today's NHL."

What a moron

$6MM backup?

- CanuckDon

We can retain the majority of what's left (up to 3mil). It's a non-issue.

We can retain the majority of what's left (up to 3mil). It's a non-issue.
- neem55

or take Kari Lehtonen plus Nichuskin.

I think Miller would want to go to any team that is in the playoff race, regardless of how many games he expects to start.

Does he have a NMC?
- dbot

5 team list thingy I think...

or take Kari Lehtonen plus Nichuskin.
- dbot

I think Nichushkin is under contract in the KHL, might be something they go for actually. Bit of a long term plan and risky, but I like it.

His playoff performance with St Louis will impact his value. Sorry Bloated, he probably has limited value even if we absorb salary.
- CanuckDon

He's a UFA so as pure rental value is balanced out. Blues experience doesn't say much as they haven't succeeded with any goalie there. Any reason not to trade him for whatever JB can get? Is play off push the real deal?

or take Kari Lehtonen plus Nichuskin.
- dbot

Yeah we brought that up before I say go for it and let Vegas take Kari.

Why not? He gets paid regardless, plays out the remainder of the year on a winning team, his stock may go up, and he has the chance to get his name on the cup. Price got "accidently" run into by kreider a couple years ago and the habs went as far as they could with Condon. All I am saying is that if I am miller, I know my contract is expiring and with the team that is playing in front of him now, isn't exactly making his stock super high for his next contract.
- Codes1087

For starters, he gets paid playing out his contract and doesn't have to leave the West coast. Perhaps if LA is a fit. I would be surprised if he is going to move to be a backup. Very surprised. As NorthNuck said, he has pride.

5 is not a lot of leverage for a GM though.
- dbot

its pro-rated though. I am not entirely sure of the amount owed but I believe it is somewhere around 1/2 to 3/4 of the yearly total.

For starters, he gets paid playing out his contract and doesn't have to leave the West coast. Perhaps if LA is a fit. I would be surprised if he is going to move to be a backup. Very surprised. As NorthNuck said, he has pride.
- CanuckDon

Totally get where you are coming from, and I am sure pride will be a huge contributing factor into his decision, but you gotta look at it both ways. He stays and plays on a mediocre team where the most he could fetch at this current rate would probably be between 3.5-4.5 million a year (based off of his stats over the last 3 years) OR he tries to wipe that clean by going to a more talented team, win some games as a backup, tries to carve his name in the cup and hit the open market maximizing his asking price with a new accomplishment on his resume'. Time will tell I guess, but he has to outweigh the pro's and con's of staying and leaving.

Totally get where you are coming from, and I am sure pride will be a huge contributing factor into his decision, but you gotta look at it both ways. He stays and plays on a mediocre team where the most he could fetch at this current rate would probably be between 3.5-4.5 million a year (based off of his stats over the last 3 years) OR he tries to wipe that clean by going to a more talented team, win some games as a backup, tries to carve his name in the cup and hit the open market maximizing his asking price with a new accomplishment on his resume'. Time will tell I guess, but he has to outweigh the pro's and con's of staying and leaving.
- Codes1087

I think he already has. He's accepted he may get traded already in an interview. Burrows did as well. These guys both sound more open to it than Hammer and Vrbada did.

I think he already has. He's accepted he may get traded already in an interview. Burrows did as well. These guys both sound more open to it than Hammer and Vrbada did.
- boonerbuck

Well this is good news then...hopefully they don't limit the list to 1 team like Kesler and 2 teams for Hamhuis Frank those two

I think he already has. He's accepted he may get traded already in an interview. Burrows did as well. These guys both sound more open to it than Hammer and Vrbada did.
- boonerbuck

I hope so! I still find it hard to believe that Burrows has any open market value. I guess if your PK is really bad though

Well this is good news then...hopefully they don't limit the list to 1 team like Kesler and 2 teams for Hamhuis Frank those two
- CanuckDon

I believe he has 5.

its pro-rated though. I am not entirely sure of the amount owed but I believe it is somewhere around 1/2 to 3/4 of the yearly total.
- Codes1087

Oh. I meant 5 team list does not bode well for JB trying to leverage max return

I believe he has 5.
- Codes1087

Arizona, Carolina, Winnipeg etc....I hope he gives a few legitimate options. He could easily refuse a trade

Well this is good news then...hopefully they don't limit the list to 1 team like Kesler and 2 teams for Hamhuis Frank those two
- CanuckDon

Yeah, that was kind poopty

I hope so! I still find it hard to believe that Burrows has any open market value. I guess if your PK is really bad though
- neem55

Burrows is having a good season if you wash away the bad start the entire team had... Any GM on the hunt and weighing out options is going to base their assessment on what he has done recently rather than scrolling back months to find a reason not to add him... especially when the commitment is a mere couple of months.

Burrows is our only + forward right now and can take a lot of credit for our #6 pk. He's also on a scoring run right now... later this season, he will have interest if he doesn't fade away.

I believe he has 5.
- Codes1087

..and I doubt that the list will be written in stone. There's no penalty for Miller or JB to settle with a team that wasn't on the list. I sense there will be more cooperation than that.

..and I doubt that the list will be written in stone. There's no penalty for Miller or JB to settle with a team that wasn't on the list. I sense there will be more cooperation than that.
- boonerbuck

Miller's numbers aren't great. We need to hope he picks his play up or he will have very limited value...not that he has been bad, just average.

"It won't be easy. Tanking never is. But it's a necessary evil in today's NHL."

What a moron
- NorthNuck

His article is the usual bunk. Aging core. Cause we have the Sedins, Burrows and Miller. Guess having the youngest D in NHL now proved him right.

$6MM backup?

- CanuckDon

Not quite that high at TDL and i am sure we can eat 50% of the salary for the rest of the season. we still have 2 salary retention spots available, and would still have 2 at seasons end.

I hope so! I still find it hard to believe that Burrows has any open market value. I guess if your PK is really bad though
- neem55

Mcantyre and other media pundits believe he does. But based on his play of late do you not see it? Savvy vet that can bring it in any role. Playoff performer with timely goals. What any Cup contender would like.

I think Nichushkin is under contract in the KHL, might be something they go for actually. Bit of a long term plan and risky, but I like it.
- neem55

yes he is unfortunately.