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Barx
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 19 @ 1:49 PM ET
huet?
at least skim the internet and check a few stats if you haven't watched the goalies play before spouting off
2gals1dane
Location: He is a pestilence, & you are the cleansing fire that can rid this sacred land of his disease ridden
Joined: 11.10.2013

Dec 19 @ 1:58 PM ET
With all due respect, have you ever watched Mason play? Or just looked at his stats? I'm guessing it's the latter, because if you've watched him play, you would not consider him an elite goalie like you're making him out to be.
- mixturebill


Is he really a fan of the yotes? If so it explains his love for a tender who has good stats but if you were to ever watch him play you would see a tender that is completely lost in net and is surviving in net by closing his eyes and hoping the puck hits his gigantic body mass.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 19 @ 2:21 PM ET
I want the Blackhawks to sign him just so we can read JJs blog post about how good he is
mixturebill
Boston Bruins
Location: West Springfield, MA
Joined: 02.07.2014

Dec 19 @ 2:33 PM ET
9 round shootout against your team says he's damn good
- dragonoffrost


He's just lucky the Bruins can't score!
He made like 45 saves in that game, and he didn't look comfortable on a single one.
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Dec 19 @ 2:37 PM ET
Mason has been good the past couple years but just to defend John (because I am a homer)

Mason Career Stats:
GP: 431
Wins: 187
SV%: .911
GAA: 2.69
SO: 30

Huet Career Stats:
GP: 272
W: 129
SV%: .913
GAA: 2.46
SO: 24

Personally I do think that the Flyers should resign him as there aren't any readily available cheap options out there.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 19 @ 2:38 PM ET
He's just lucky the Bruins can't score!
He made like 45 saves in that game, and he didn't look comfortable on a single one.

- mixturebill


So you're saying he's Dominik Hasek?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 19 @ 2:42 PM ET
Mason has been good the past couple years but just to defend John (because I am a homer)

Mason Career Stats:
GP: 431
Wins: 187
SV%: .911
GAA: 2.69
SO: 30

Huet Career Stats:
GP: 272
W: 129
SV%: .913
GAA: 2.46
SO: 24

Personally I do think that the Flyers should resign him as there aren't any readily available cheap options out there.

- Hossa1881


So contracts are based off of career stat lines? Using career stats is exactly what a clueless (frank) would do when answering this question. Anyone who watches hockey away from their own team or has paid a little attention to the NHL knows that Mason was god awful in Columbus on a crap team and was not mentally tough. Very few goalies come into the league and play regular time at that age and in that situation. He is a completely different player and person now. I am sure on Jagr's next contract they'll look at the career stats and go HOLY poop WE GOTTA SIGN THIS GUY

I know there are tons of Mason haters, and I really don't care because it has little effect on Mason and the Flyers. At this point it is just embarrassing for the people that try to act like he isn't good. It isn't even a Flyers hate thing because there are tons of Flyers fans who hate on him too. It is just hilarious to be a blogger that supposedly pays attention to the NHL (and responds to a question about it) and be so oblivious to reality.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 19 @ 2:43 PM ET
He's just lucky the Bruins can't score!
He made like 45 saves in that game, and he didn't look comfortable on a single one.

- mixturebill


Comfort isn't needed ... STOP THE DAMN PUCK!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 19 @ 2:46 PM ET
He's just lucky the Bruins can't score!
He made like 45 saves in that game, and he didn't look comfortable on a single one.

- mixturebill


Tim Thomas...'member that guy?
Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.23.2012

Dec 19 @ 2:49 PM ET
Tim Thomas...'member that guy?
- YuenglingJagr


yeah I member
mrn22
New York Rangers
Location: CT
Joined: 05.22.2014

Dec 19 @ 2:50 PM ET
I want the Blackhawks to sign him just so we can read JJs blog post about how good he is
- YuenglingJagr


well, according to EK the Hawks are looking for a 3rd goalie
mixturebill
Boston Bruins
Location: West Springfield, MA
Joined: 02.07.2014

Dec 19 @ 3:05 PM ET
Tim Thomas...'member that guy?
- YuenglingJagr


Oh you mean the multiple Vezina award winner, and Stanley Cup Champion Tim Thomas? Yeah, Steve Mason is not on that level.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Dec 19 @ 3:23 PM ET
Oh you mean the multiple Vezina award winner, and Stanley Cup Champion Tim Thomas? Yeah, Steve Mason is not on that level.
- mixturebill


Obviously you didn't connect the dots.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 19 @ 3:24 PM ET
Oh you mean the multiple Vezina award winner, and Stanley Cup Champion Tim Thomas? Yeah, Steve Mason is not on that level.
- mixturebill


Yeah...I guess he is too wild to ever be like Tim Thomas

Thomas's save percentage during his Bruins "career" = .921

Mason's save percentage during his Flyers "career" = .920

I was told career numbers are what is important. Now I have no idea what to believe.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 19 @ 3:33 PM ET
Yeah...I guess he is too wild to ever be like Tim Thomas

Thomas's save percentage during his Bruins "career" = .921

Mason's save percentage during his Flyers "career" = .920

I was told career numbers are what is important. Now I have no idea what to believe.

- YuenglingJagr


But Thomas has real hardware... Mase has a useless Calder.

This is also the guy who'd probably latch on to Tuukka Rask's jocksweat as he rides that rollercoaster season he's having.
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Dec 19 @ 4:09 PM ET
So contracts are based off of career stat lines? Using career stats is exactly what a clueless (frank) would do when answering this question. Anyone who watches hockey away from their own team or has paid a little attention to the NHL knows that Mason was god awful in Columbus on a crap team and was not mentally tough. Very few goalies come into the league and play regular time at that age and in that situation. He is a completely different player and person now. I am sure on Jagr's next contract they'll look at the career stats and go HOLY poop WE GOTTA SIGN THIS GUY

I know there are tons of Mason haters, and I really don't care because it has little effect on Mason and the Flyers. At this point it is just embarrassing for the people that try to act like he isn't good. It isn't even a Flyers hate thing because there are tons of Flyers fans who hate on him too. It is just hilarious to be a blogger that supposedly pays attention to the NHL (and responds to a question about it) and be so oblivious to reality.

- YuenglingJagr


Please, point out where I was saying that a contract should be based off of career stats? Please clear out your eyes and learn how to read. I was comparing the career stats because for some reason everyone's hating John for comparing Huet to Mason, even though their career stats are very close. Remember, there was a time when Huet was considered a really good goalie..
Hossa1881
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 07.01.2011

Dec 19 @ 4:10 PM ET
Yeah...I guess he is too wild to ever be like Tim Thomas

Thomas's save percentage during his Bruins "career" = .921

Mason's save percentage during his Flyers "career" = .920

I was told career numbers are what is important. Now I have no idea what to believe.

- YuenglingJagr


Again, just saying that comparing the two goaltenders is not as far fetched as you are making it out to be. Please, feel free to take it personally
mixturebill
Boston Bruins
Location: West Springfield, MA
Joined: 02.07.2014

Dec 19 @ 4:27 PM ET
Yeah...I guess he is too wild to ever be like Tim Thomas

Thomas's save percentage during his Bruins "career" = .921

Mason's save percentage during his Flyers "career" = .920

I was told career numbers are what is important. Now I have no idea what to believe.

- YuenglingJagr


Sure, if you want to skew the numbers in your favor... go ahead.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 19 @ 4:33 PM ET
Sure, if you want to skew the numbers in your favor... go ahead.
- mixturebill


Thomas's real NHL career year didn't start until age 32...

How old is Mason?

Goalies tend to get better with age then fall off. Around late 30's. I'll place my bets with Mason getting better.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Dec 19 @ 4:35 PM ET
Your and idiot
- Streit2ThePoint



But I can punctuate, and I've seen Mason melt down enough. Thanks
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

Dec 19 @ 4:38 PM ET
But I can punctuate, and I've seen Mason melt down enough. Thanks
- John Jaeckel

you're still underrating him and i'm not even here to do this stupid crap.

i know it's hard for you to understand but you can be wrong too.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 19 @ 4:42 PM ET
What are you smoking Tom, Mason finally lost after an eight game winning streak. I would resign him for sure. The team defence is finally starting to show signs of great improvement which will make Mason even better.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 19 @ 4:43 PM ET
Please, point out where I was saying that a contract should be based off of career stats? Please clear out your eyes and learn how to read. I was comparing the career stats because for some reason everyone's hating John for comparing Huet to Mason, even though their career stats are very close. Remember, there was a time when Huet was considered a really good goalie..

- Hossa1881

The article is about re-signing a player and you are bringing up career stats...I guess context isn't a useful part of reading and writing.

I actually said nothing bad about Huet either, I am just saying that you can get stats over different periods of time to say a lot of different things. Again, actually watching each is a very important part of realizing the difference between the two. Really the only thing you can say about both of them is they each had parts of their career where they were really good and really poor. A large difference is that Huet's career ended badly, where Mason had a bad start and has become a very good, reliable goalie. You would think the latter would be considered in a discussion about re-signing him.
joegreif17
Location: Hockeyville, BC
Joined: 05.10.2009

Dec 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
you're still underrating him and i'm not even here to do this stupid crap.

i know it's hard for you to understand but you can be wrong too.

- kicksave856


All goalies have meltdowns and good ones recover. I recall how you called for CC to be replaced and then he came back strong as ever. Mason is every bit as solid as Crawford!
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Dec 19 @ 4:44 PM ET
huet?
at least skim the internet and check a few stats if you haven't watched the goalies play before spouting off

- Barx



Hi there, I have seen Mason play in person probably 30 times. And most of the time, not play well. Sorry.

BTW, you need "a few stats?" Huet has his name (at least) on a Stanley Cup, setting aside the fact that he has a better career save % and much better GAA than Mason.

Hey, cute hat, too.
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