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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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Huet better than Mason ?
Keep him depending on the price.
If the price is similar to what Biship could fetch, go after Bishop |
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Girouxy
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Location: Phila, PA Joined: 02.20.2012
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I see an abundance of nonsense in a lot of these blogs....mostly the fan comments but dude... "And Huet was probably a better goaltender. " smh |
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All due respect to anyone who disagrees, but Mason is an elite goaltender and there is proof. You also get 8 years worth of shot data to judge a goalie on that you get for every year of a skater, so it's reasonable to think that goalie stats are even more solid than normal advanced stats. Up to 8 x stronger, like Bounty basically. |
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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I see an abundance of nonsense in a lot of these blogs....mostly the fan comments but dude... "And Huet was probably a better goaltender. " smh - Girouxy
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tomburton99
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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He's struggling this year for whatever reason. In 14/15 he was very good. |
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Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Upstate, NY Joined: 05.28.2013
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Huet being better than Mason might be my favorite thing Johnny boy has ever wrote |
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Joel_Eh
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Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON Joined: 01.26.2012
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All due respect to anyone who disagrees, but Mason is an elite goaltender and there is proof. You also get 8 years worth of shot data to judge a goalie on that you get for every year of a skater, so it's reasonable to think that goalie stats are even more solid than normal advanced stats. Up to 8 x stronger, like Bounty basically. - James_Tanner
career .911 save percentage...he's not a bad goalie but he's not elite.
most of the charts on dispelling voodoo only go back to 2013 so if thats your only reference you are ignoring all his years in cbus. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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career .911 save percentage...he's not a bad goalie but he's not elite.
most of the charts on dispelling voodoo only go back to 2013 so if thats your only reference you are ignoring all his years in cbus. - Joel_Eh
His first year in Columbus was, you know, really good. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Joel_Eh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: Panel member of L'Antichambre, ON Joined: 01.26.2012
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His first year in Columbus was, you know, really good. - tomburton99
Columbus was 08-09 to 12-13...one good three bad. |
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mixturebill
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Location: West Springfield, MA Joined: 02.07.2014
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All due respect to anyone who disagrees, but Mason is an elite goaltender and there is proof. You also get 8 years worth of shot data to judge a goalie on that you get for every year of a skater, so it's reasonable to think that goalie stats are even more solid than normal advanced stats. Up to 8 x stronger, like Bounty basically. - James_Tanner
With all due respect, have you ever watched Mason play? Or just looked at his stats? I'm guessing it's the latter, because if you've watched him play, you would not consider him an elite goalie like you're making him out to be.
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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Columbus was 08-09 to 12-13...one good three bad. - Joel_Eh
Very true. His first 2 years in Philly were both good, this year not so much. So he's the norm when considering goaltenders. Only the great ones do it every year. |
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tomburton99
New York Rangers |
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Location: NYR distrust, NJ Joined: 07.13.2009
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With all due respect, have you ever watched Mason play? Or just looked at his stats? I'm guessing it's the latter, because if you've watched him play, you would not consider him an elite goalie like you're making him out to be. - mixturebill
Well, Tanner did Smith was once elite, give and take. |
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Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken |
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Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz. Joined: 09.20.2013
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John Jaeckel
Look elsewhere.
Steve Mason is a nice kid, with a good attitude, who works hard. So was Cristobal Huet. And Huet was probably a better goaltender.
Mason, like Huet and a lot of similar goalies, can get in a good groove and put some extended solid play together. But he has long periods where he can't stop a beach ball. The goal in the NHL is to win the Stanley Cup, and you need a goaltender who can either get you there or at least won't hold you back. The Flyers have some of the pieces to build around. Mason is way too unreliable and inconsistent to be one of them.
Your and idiot |
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Trainfellow
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 06.23.2012
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Seems to play better when taking on the higher workload. His play right now shows what hes capable of. I would be surprised if they didn't resign him |
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Girouxsalem90
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Upstate, NY Joined: 05.28.2013
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Seems to play better when taking on the higher workload. His play right now shows what hes capable of. I would be surprised if they didn't resign him - Trainfellow
He's the best starter we've had in a long long time. If one of the kids can eventually surpass him as a #1 great, but no need to blow big money on Bishop or anyone else this summer. I would be happy going into next year with Mase/Stolie. |
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kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option. Joined: 09.29.2005
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this stove should probably just go ahead and burn the house down.
what incredible stupidity.
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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Have to re-sign him. Whether you think he's elite or average, who will be goalie if not him? Giroux can't do it. Voracek can't do it. I highly doubt Simmons is up for the task. Teams need a goalie to be successful. |
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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Newark, DE Joined: 03.09.2010
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Mason is far from immune to bad stretches and let in a terrible playoff goal mirroring those let in by bums Martin Brodeur and Patrick Roy. Clearly AHL back-ups performance levels.
That said, since he arrived in Philadelphia in 12/13, he has posted some of the best numbers in the NHL, and is often the reason the team won that the reason they lost. He's not flashy, and he gets knocked because of his post-rookie year in Columbus. However, since arriving in Philadelphia, he has thrived, especially when he's been given the majority of starts. His worst strings have come when it's been a split-starter mentality. Assuming Neuvirth is not retained for next year, I would assume his play and numbers would continue in the trend they have been for the better part of 3 1/2 years.
Lastly, we've seen Stanley Cups won where the goalie plays slightly above average and, in one case, actually gets benched for the better part of a series. Not saying the Flyers have a roster that can win a Cup without a Super Human Mason, but it also doesn't mean that he has to be elite in order to be a winner. |
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WaterBoy
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Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT Joined: 06.27.2006
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this stove should probably just go ahead and burn the house down.
what incredible stupidity. - kicksave856
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Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: not very poggers Joined: 08.27.2015
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Don't think John has seen much of Mason |
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SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Robidas Island, MI Joined: 10.30.2013
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Don't think John has seen much of Mason - Mordecai
He saw lots of Huet. Same thing. |
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GPerogie
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: Hightstown, NJ Joined: 07.13.2010
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I am amazed at some of the ill comments on Mason, He has been a steady force since coming to Philly, We have had some lacking goalies over the years and some flash in the pans but Mase has been good for a duration now, If we had him for the cup run against Chicago and he was playing as he has since he came to Philly we would likely have cup 3. |
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dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ Joined: 10.12.2015
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With all due respect, have you ever watched Mason play? Or just looked at his stats? I'm guessing it's the latter, because if you've watched him play, you would not consider him an elite goalie like you're making him out to be. - mixturebill
9 round shootout against your team says he's damn good |
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