Michael Pachla: Bylsma's 300th win comes in front of some hockey heavyweights There were Hall of Famers galore in Detroit as the Red Wings celebrated team that broke a 42 year Cup drought

straight cash, homie!

On number 2 overall picks and their production since 1995...

This is not aimed at you as I'm only using this as the latest comment on this topic of conversation.

Previously, I posted my findings on top 5 picks and the average development time it took each pick to reach their own respective full potentials going back to the 1995 draft.

This morning, I looked at number 2 picks specifically from 1995 to 2011 (using number 2 picks from 2012 to current does not allow the normal amount of development time to provide a full picture).

Below is what I found for number 2 picks from 1995-2011 regarding their max production, minimum production, average production, and peak average production.

Position Max PROD Min. PROD Ave. PROD PEAK Ave.
Forward 82.8 54.0 63.2 67.3
Defense 46.3 27.3 32.8 36.4

Interesting that the average production and average peak production are between 63-67 points.

The two least regarded, as I would classify them, of the number 2 picks that are forwards would be Legwand and Bobby Ryan. Perhaps some would count Jordan Staal in that grouping as well.

How many would be satisfied if Reinhart ended up averaging 65 points for his production annually? Doesn't seem like many, and yet that is what the numbers say is the average.
- kingcong39

To add to this, the entire list of forwards taken number 2 overall between 1995 & 2011 is below, listed in order.

Patrick Marleau, David Legwand, Daniel Sedin, Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza, Eric Staal, Evgeni Malkin, Bobby Ryan, Jordan Staal, James van Riemsdyk, Tyler Seguin, Gabriel Landeskog

2 thoughts...
great to see the Sabres core ayers produce ... now keep it going.
ft he Sabre fans have waited 47 years...I'm damn sick of being patient.

Lets win them all !!

2 thoughts...
great to see the Sabres core ayers produce ... now keep it going.
ft he Sabre fans have waited 47 years...I'm damn sick of being patient.
- IonSabres

me too...doesn't change the fact that it takes time

The Buffalo News' Vic Carucci reports "every indication from within One Bills Drive" is that Buffalo has settled on promoting OC Anthony Lynn to head coach in 2017.
According to Carucci, the Bills aren't going to get serious outside interest in the head-coaching post because prospective "big-name" candidates don't want to work with GM Doug Whaley. As the leader of the "search," Whaley's job appears secure, and he will maintain control of the 53-man roster. That won't fly with guys like Josh McDaniels, Jon Gruden, Tom Coughlin, and any other "name" candidate. McDaniels allegedly has interest, but he wants control of the roster. Lynn would be getting his first coaching opportunity, so he'd be in no position to make those demands. He's the heavy favorite in the clubhouse for the full-time gig.

Why make the team better, just keep Whaley . What a joke

The Buffalo News' Vic Carucci reports "every indication from within One Bills Drive" is that Buffalo has settled on promoting OC Anthony Lynn to head coach in 2017.
According to Carucci, the Bills aren't going to get serious outside interest in the head-coaching post because prospective "big-name" candidates don't want to work with GM Doug Whaley. As the leader of the "search," Whaley's job appears secure, and he will maintain control of the 53-man roster. That won't fly with guys like Josh McDaniels, Jon Gruden, Tom Coughlin, and any other "name" candidate. McDaniels allegedly has interest, but he wants control of the roster. Lynn would be getting his first coaching opportunity, so he'd be in no position to make those demands. He's the heavy favorite in the clubhouse for the full-time gig.

Why make the team better, just keep Whaley . What a joke
- SABRES 89

love carrucci...just hope he's wrong...

that said should a coach have a say?...undoubtedly... but what's too much?

rexy had a lot of input and look where it got them...

chip Kelly had control of the roster in philly...it was a complete disaster...

gm's build, coaches coach...

love carrucci...just hope he's wrong...

that said should a coach have a say?...undoubtedly...rexy had a lot of input and look where it got them...

chip Kelly had control of the roster in philly...it was a complete disaster...

gm's build, coaches coach...
- Michael Pachla

Agreed. Just leads to spreading yourself too thin/causing more stress than necessary.

Agreed. Just leads to spreading yourself too thin/causing more stress than necessary.
- stashu

imo, they could really use a vice president of football operations

btw:

kane--last nine games, 7g, 1a, minus-1 with only one goal and his lone assist on the powerplay

btw:

kane--last nine games, 7g, 1a, minus-1 with only one goal and his lone assist on the powerplay
- Michael Pachla

Lets trade him while value is high !!!!!!



J/k of course .

btw:

kane--last nine games, 7g, 1a, minus-1 with only one goal and his lone assist on the powerplay
- Michael Pachla

11 points in his last 13 games, and since I saw so much grief written about his "boneheaded play", he has 15 PIM in those 14 games (5 of which were last night).

Added "fun" (?) note - Buffalo has gotten points in each of the games he has PIMs in that span.

11 points in his last 13 games, and since I saw so much grief written about his "boneheaded play", he has 15 PIM in those 14 games (5 of which were last night).

Added "fun" (?) note - Buffalo has gotten points in each of the games he has PIMs in that span.
- stashu

Can almost say .. team plays better without him .

Lunch time

Lunch time
- GERBE!!!75PTS

Just had leftover romeo and Juliette pepperoni pizza.

Just had leftover romeo and Juliette pepperoni pizza.
- cabin

I have salad.

Being out of town for work last week and then Christmas this past weekend has been killer.

I have salad.

Being out of town for work last week and then Christmas this past weekend has been killer.
- HonkFortheGoose

Bound or tossed?

On number 2 overall picks and their production since 1995...



To add to this, the entire list of forwards taken number 2 overall between 1995 & 2011 is below, listed in order.

Patrick Marleau, David Legwand, Daniel Sedin, Dany Heatley, Jason Spezza, Eric Staal, Evgeni Malkin, Bobby Ryan, Jordan Staal, James van Riemsdyk, Tyler Seguin, Gabriel Landeskog
- kingcong39

What about the 1st forward taken in every class? Which Reinhart was.

We had the pick of forwards

So far Reinhart and Bennett's development looks stagnant compared to some others others

Draisaitl has jumped from a .70 PPG pace last year, to a .86PPG pace this year

Nikolai Ehlers went from a .52 PPG pace last year, to a .81 PPG pace this year

William Nylander is in his rookie year, at a .68 ppg pace



Reinhart has went from a .53 PPG pace last year, to .58 PPG pace this year.

He's following the exact same trajectory as Robbi Fabbri, who was selected 21st overall that year.

Lets win them all !!
- cabin

Do it for the kids!

What about the 1st forward taken in every class? Which Reinhart was.

We had the pick of forwards

So far Reinhart and Bennett's development looks stagnant compared to some others others

Draisaitl has jumped from a .70 PPG pace last year, to a .86PPG pace this year

Nikolai Ehlers went from a .52 PPG pace last year, to a .81 PPG pace this year

William Nylander is in his rookie year, at a .68 ppg pace



Reinhart has went from a .53 PPG pace last year, to .58 PPG pace this year.

He's following the exact same trajectory as Robbi Fabbri, who was selected 21st overall that year.
- sbroads24

Then we can do skate size and stick length

Michael Pachla: Bylsma's 300th win comes in front of some hockey heavyweights
There were Hall of Famers galore in Detroit as the Red Wings celebrated team that broke a 42 year Cup drought
- Michael Pachla

50 shades of less stink

What about the 1st forward taken in every class? Which Reinhart was.

We had the pick of forwards

So far Reinhart and Bennett's development looks stagnant compared to some others others

Draisaitl has jumped from a .70 PPG pace last year, to a .86PPG pace this year

Nikolai Ehlers went from a .52 PPG pace last year, to a .81 PPG pace this year

William Nylander is in his rookie year, at a .68 ppg pace





Reinhart has went from a .53 PPG pace last year, to .58 PPG pace this year.

He's following the exact same trajectory as Robbi Fabbri, who was selected 21st overall that year.
- sbroads24

Still waaaaay to early to write this story

What about the 1st forward taken in every class? Which Reinhart was.

We had the pick of forwards

So far Reinhart and Bennett's development looks stagnant compared to some others others

Draisaitl has jumped from a .70 PPG pace last year, to a .86PPG pace this year

Nikolai Ehlers went from a .52 PPG pace last year, to a .81 PPG pace this year

William Nylander is in his rookie year, at a .68 ppg pace



Reinhart has went from a .53 PPG pace last year, to .58 PPG pace this year.

He's following the exact same trajectory as Robbi Fabbri, who was selected 21st overall that year.
- sbroads24

this is a TOTAL waste of time

there were only 4 players in play for the top 3 picks, from EVERY DRAFT ANALYST


ekblad
reinhart
bennett
draisaitl

What about the 1st forward taken in every class? Which Reinhart was.

We had the pick of forwards

So far Reinhart and Bennett's development looks stagnant compared to some others others

Draisaitl has jumped from a .70 PPG pace last year, to a .86PPG pace this year

Nikolai Ehlers went from a .52 PPG pace last year, to a .81 PPG pace this year

William Nylander is in his rookie year, at a .68 ppg pace

Reinhart has went from a .53 PPG pace last year, to .58 PPG pace this year.

He's following the exact same trajectory as Robbi Fabbri, who was selected 21st overall that year.
- sbroads24

I don't have the time to do what you are asking, but I can provide the first forward taking in every draft from 1995 to 2015 and their respective draft position.

1995 Chad Kilger 4.
1996 JP Dumont 3.
1997 Joe Thornton 1.
1998 Vincent Lecavalier 1.
1999 Patrick Stefan 1.
2000 Dany Heatley 2.
2001 Ilya Kovalchuk 1.
2002 Rick Nash 1.
2003 Eric Staal 2.
2004 Alex Ovechkin 1.
2005 Sidney Crosby 1.
2006 Jordan Staal 2.
2007 Patrick Kane 1.
2008 Steve Stamkos 1.
2009 John Tavares 1.
2010 Taylor Hall 1.
2011 Ryan Nugent Hopkins 1.
2012 Nail Yakupov 1.
2013 Nathan MacKinnon 1.
2014 Sam Reinhart 2.
2015 Connor McDavid 1.