I don't see Hansen as a greedy person and would probably offer him 2.5 x 4 or 3.25 x 3
- VANTEL

Those are reasonable to me. If they get the feeling they can keep him under $3.5 over the course of 3-4 years, I would hang on. That being said, if a 1st round pick or good prospect is a part of an offer for him, I still put serious consideration on still making the deal and hope maybe he comes back in free agency in 2018

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- Nuckerwhatever

ill check out the highlights, i just mean i couldn't care less if a player is overlooked or not (many opt out anyways with'injuries').
It's about exposure and putting on a show and having fun, mostly for the kids.
Nothing more.

Your right his deal will go up from his nice contract, as good as he is for the team the pick/prospect we could get from him would go a longer way for the team.
- phyllee

I think Hansens loyalty to the team and the fact that other teams see him as a third liner you could keep his new contract very similar to his existing. I doubt any team is paying 4 -4.5 mil

Your right his deal will go up from his nice contract, as good as he is for the team the pick/prospect we could get from him would go a longer way for the team.
- phyllee

We knew Burrows was going to get paid, I have not a clue what Hansen would want. That guy is really tough to read. I am still leaning towards moving on from him, but if there is a sense he could be retained for a reasonable amount, I'd want to be blown away with an offer to make the deal happen

your stats seemed skewed to say a guy with 4 Assists all season is producing goals Every 60 mins????
- onesmallleap

The stat is GF and GA per 60 as in on the ice for and against. Obviously this stat can include a lot of scenarios where the player isn't directly contributing but over a large enough sample size you can see the trends.

I'm not using this as a catch all stat to say the player is good but to provide a reference point comparing players on the same team.

We knew Burrows was going to get paid, I have not a clue what Hansen would want. That guy is really tough to read. I am still leaning towards moving on from him, but if there is a sense he could be retained for a reasonable amount, I'd want to be blown away with an offer to make the deal happen
- WhiteLie

If a team offered a first, or a second and a decent prospect id hope Benning wouldnt think twice and pulled the trigger, especially with the fact that it would also be protecting a younger forward of Baer or Granlund

I don't see Hansen as a greedy person and would probably offer him 2.5 x 4 or 3.25 x 3
- VANTEL

I think he'll command much more than 2.5-3.25 a year.

I think he'll command much more than 2.5-3.25 a year.
- dbot

He can command all he wants , getting a team to accept it is a different story

If a team offered a first, or a second and a decent prospect id hope Benning wouldnt think twice and pulled the trigger, especially with the fact that it would also be protecting a younger forward of Baer or Granlund
- phyllee

I still think we won't see (m)any trades at the TDL.
A lot of shuffling will occur after the Draft on July 1st.
IMO

ill check out the highlights, i just mean i couldn't care less if a player is overlooked or not (many opt out anyways with'injuries').
It's about exposure and putting on a show and having fun, mostly for the kids.
Nothing more.
- dbot

wrong quote bro

We knew Burrows was going to get paid, I have not a clue what Hansen would want. That guy is really tough to read. I am still leaning towards moving on from him, but if there is a sense he could be retained for a reasonable amount, I'd want to be blown away with an offer to make the deal happen
- WhiteLie

I waffle from 'trade everyone' to 'we need vets to mentor'.

I want to say trade everyone, and get the picks, but you want to keep the right players, guys who set the right example to help the youth along and develop. It would be easy to say to fill that role with a ufa, but you still have to find the right ufa.

I still think we won't see (m)any trades at the TDL.
A lot of shuffling will occur after the Draft on July 1st.
IMO
- dbot

I thought about that too, but trade deadlines are for rental players normally, so if a team made a trade for say hansen, they can expose him no problem and if Vegas took him whatever he can be classed as a rental the same as a UFA

I waffle from 'trade everyone' to 'we need vets to mentor'.

I want to say trade everyone, and get the picks, but you want to keep the right players, guys who set the right example to help the youth along and develop. It would be easy to say to fill that role with a ufa, but you still have to find the right ufa.
- hillbillydeluxe

If you could trade Sbisa for a second or third and fall into the top 10 drafting and draft 6'6 Hague ,would you not think that is a better plan?

He can command all he wants , getting a team to accept it is a different story
- VANTEL

He;s been underpaid for years.
Is a good soldier and plays in all situations up and down the lineup.
Is the motor that drives the Sedin line.
Speed to burn.

Probably good for 15-20 goals a season in the right situation or as a PK shut down guy.
Good attitude/team guy.

plus a hilarious voice.

He will cash in i am sure.

wrong quote bro
- Nuckerwhatever

There's no fishing highlights?

He;s been underpaid for years.
Is a good soldier and plays in all situations up and down the lineup.
Is the motor that drives the Sedin line.
Speed to burn.

Probably good for 15-20 goals a season in the right situation or as a PK shut down guy.
Good attitude/team guy.

plus a hilarious voice.

He will cash in i am sure.
- dbot

He is a good CANUCK soldier . Most teams don't pay thet close attention to him. Most will see 18 games 5 G 4 A .

He is not geting 4 mil

Thank you for your thoughts

It really makes you wonder how it is going to play out with the playoffs as a stated goal.

back to the old.... What we are doing vs. what we should be doing.

The worst thing that could happen is to be just out of the playoffs at tdl and we stand pat.
- hillbillydeluxe

With the lotto you never know where you land. Plus it's not a top heavy draft by all accounts. The differences between players seem minimal. There are many players ranked in the middle of the draft that have been brought up as desirable as well. Regardless, of what happens, which is out of our control of course, stands to reason JB will add a good piece.

I waffle from 'trade everyone' to 'we need vets to mentor'.

I want to say trade everyone, and get the picks, but you want to keep the right players, guys who set the right example to help the youth along and develop. It would be easy to say to fill that role with a ufa, but you still have to find the right ufa.
- hillbillydeluxe

Its also balancing the value of the return. Burrows and Hansen are probably similar in mentoring ability (if you can even really quantify that) but one will fetch a bigger return than the other and likely cost more to resign. I think Sedins, Eriksson, Sutter, Dorsett, and I would consider Bo ready too, with those in mind there are a lot of vets to help the next wave of forwards adjust to the NHL. The D have a good mix of vets already IMO

The stat is GF and GA per 60 as in on the ice for and against. Obviously this stat can include a lot of scenarios where the player isn't directly contributing but over a large enough sample size you can see the trends.

I'm not using this as a catch all stat to say the player is good but to provide a reference point comparing players on the same team.
- belcherbd

ok i see what you mean but the "eye"test would say he struggles to get a shot on goal every 60 mins played

If you could trade Sbisa for a second or third and fall into the top 10 drafting and draft 6'6 Hague ,would you not think that is a better plan?
- VANTEL

I can't argue with your logic, but FA might not be on board.

There's no fishing highlights?
- dbot

Hey fishing is a highlight.

I can't argue with your logic, but FA might not be on board.
- hillbillydeluxe

Starting to think long and hard about the Expansion draft. If you lose one player, wondering if they trade Sbisa for picks.

Having a good season, you could expose Biega instead and if you think you're going to lose one of Hansen, Baer, Rodin or Granlund instead, it could be a good leverage move.

Probably a few teams that would like to have him on board to hopefully protect someone else.

June 21 expansion draft and Feb TDL.

Players like Miller and Sbisa stick out seeing they have turned into likable assets. Do you move them or no? Both players are helping the team right now but the long term future, they should be moved.

I think a top ten draft pick could go a long way for the Canucks future instead of making the playoffs this year. We would most likely lose Sbisa in the draft anyways so why not get something back for him.

Burrows . Absolutely without a doubt trade him. If you can get a second or third for his playoff experience I would gladly give up his two months of service remaining and replace him with Hansen on Bo's line.

Sven ? Again a grade B type player, streaky , and riding high right now. Sell high buy low. I think a lot of teams would love a low cost skilled young forward and I believe he could fetch a first round pick.

Hansen ? I keep him around .

Moving out those players would pretty well wrap up a top pick and maybe even encourage some vet contracts on their last legs to try to win with another team. Just hoping.

It is a ballsy move but JB could pick up some well needed picks and speed the process quite a bit.
- VANTEL

but it will never happen. IDK if I would trade Sven. i would risk granlund atm as I see sven being better, also if you trade Sbisa then Biega needs to play a few more games.

I am all about this tactic. Maximize the returns and protect everyone you see as long term while trading off as many as you can for what you can get. Deals are probably harder to make this year because everyone is watching their exposure lists, but JB should look to move pieces for prospects and picks.

I will ask though, as I have been in favour of trading Hansen. Given his contract has been undervalued and expires after another year, what do you sign him for to keep him around? Burrows went from underpaid to overpaid pretty quick coming off a similar deal
- WhiteLie

No more than 3x2 and if he won't take it get rid of him as a TDL rental next year. Unless we have a big improvement.