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Beatle_john
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Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face. Joined: 01.09.2006
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............. and TSN does not even mention it but cannot get over it Matthgasm. |
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SRam19
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Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain Joined: 02.12.2015
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I dont get it, why fowler and smith?
They should put OEL and Talbot. |
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Beatle_john
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Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face. Joined: 01.09.2006
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All TSN can do is put up articles showing how Laine is conceded and Mathews Humble and other than Marner no one has a chance at top rookie....
Zach Werenski.
THATS the top rookie. He has had more impact on his team than the rest combined.
It should not even be a race. |
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Not taking anything away form Bo, but being selected as Canucks best player is like winning a beauty contest at a seniors home.
Agree with ASL some posters are turning this place into a nightmare, and by some I mean one.
I am more interested in discussing possible trades and partners than why fourth line talent is not getting ice time. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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I like the black and gold trim with Canucks written diagonally . - VANTEL
I liked those too... |
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All TSN can do is put up articles showing how Laine is conceded and Mathews Humble and other than Marner no one has a chance at top rookie....
Zach Werenski.
THATS the top rookie. He has had more impact on his team than the rest combined.
It should not even be a race. - Beatle_john
Why do you keep watching or reading anything TSN and then complain about it here? We all know what TSN is and if any of you watch it I don't think you have a right to complain.
I'm starting to feel about this site the way I feel about TSN. |
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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Thanks Carol,
Great blog.
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belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Nanaimo Joined: 02.16.2007
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I find the criticisms of a guy like Chaput, as well as Vey and Etem before him, very funny when people give longer leashes to guys like Gaunce, only because they are Canuck draft picks. Gaunce has done nothing at the NHL level, he is not very effective in any role he has been put in IMO - WhiteLie
I disagree with the comparison at least of Vey and Etem.
Chaput and Gaunce are very similar except for age and stage of development.
Vey and Etem didn't toil away on the 4th line with AHLers in order to earn their icetime. They were given many opportunities with talented players.
I would of hoped that Gaunce had more to offer in the offensive zone but think he has been really good in his own end and transitioning the puck.
Gaunce (as does Skille to a lesser extent) has a very impressive GA60 compared to the whole team but in particular compared to Chaput and Dorsett or even Granlund.
To put it into perspective.
Gaunce is allowing 1.61 goals per 60 minutes and producing 1.21 goals per 60 minutes.
Granlund is allowing 3.18 goals per 60 minutes and producing 1.64 goals per 60.
He is only one of 3 players with a positive possession rates (on ice for more shot for than against) and generates shots at nearly the same rate as Granlund does.
I'm not saying Gaunce is better or as good as Granlund but line mates and ice time do make a difference. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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I disagree with the comparison at least of Vey and Etem.
Chaput and Gaunce are very similar except for age and stage of development.
Vey and Etem didn't toil away on the 4th line with AHLers in order to earn their icetime. They were given many opportunities with talented players.
I would of hoped that Gaunce had more to offer in the offensive zone but think he has been really good in his own end and transitioning the puck.
Gaunce (as does Skille to a lesser extent) has a very impressive GA60 compared to the whole team but in particular compared to Chaput and Dorsett or even Granlund.
To put it into perspective.
Gaunce is allowing 1.61 goals per 60 minutes and producing 1.21 goals per 60 minutes.
Granlund is allowing 3.18 goals per 60 minutes and producing 1.64 goals per 60.
He is only one of 3 players with a positive possession rates (on ice for more shot for than against) and generates shots at nearly the same rate as Granlund does.
I'm not saying Gaunce is better or as good as Granlund but line mates and ice time do make a difference. - belcherbd
I just went back and replied, but I'll post here because I appreciate the research you've done.
My comparison is not really based on much, its just that I know that in the case of Vey, Etem, etc. were our own draft picks and were getting settled in the NHL at the age of 22-23-24 the perception of how good/bad he is would be different.
I say that because I catch myself doing it on occasion. Expectations are much higher when you acquire a young player, but if for example Gaunce doesnt start putting up points until hes 24, he will be given the slack until then |
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Makita
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Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC Joined: 02.16.2007
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I've had beers with Nucker....it's not him
- LeftCoaster
So you're hanging out at Paparazzi Nightclub now
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I just went back and replied, but I'll post here because I appreciate the research you've done.
My comparison is not really based on much, its just that I know that in the case of Vey, Etem, etc. were our own draft picks and were getting settled in the NHL at the age of 22-23-24 the perception of how good/bad he is would be different.
I say that because I catch myself doing it on occasion. Expectations are much higher when you acquire a young player, but if for example Gaunce doesnt start putting up points until hes 24, he will be given the slack until then - WhiteLie
A guy Canucks may want to target next year for fourth line duties is Brian Boyle. He is 32 now . If you signed him 2x2 it would be good
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NorthNuck
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Location: Yellowknife, NWT Joined: 05.30.2016
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Gotta admit it will be fun to watch Bo on a line with Gaudreau or Pavelski and Burns or Doughty.
If we are changing to an old jersey my vote is for the flying skate ones. Darker colours look better on hockey players IMO
Then there's this...
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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I've had beers with Nucker....it's not him
- LeftCoaster
So you're hanging out at Paparazzi Nightclub now - Makita
Lefty and Knucker alternate between celebrities and the Pumpjack |
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Not taking anything away form Bo, but being selected as Canucks best player is like winning a beauty contest at a seniors home.
- VANTEL
I dunno man, Horvats' outscoring some other big names like Tavares, MacKinnon, Trocheck, Gaudreau, Zetterberg and Okposo - he's made great strides this year and its significant to be picked over the Sedins, bcus they still put up good numbers and are game changers (not as often as they used to be but still) |
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LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Not taking anything away form Bo, but being selected as Canucks best player is like winning a beauty contest at a seniors home.
Agree with ASL some posters are turning this place into a nightmare, and by some I mean one.
I am more interested in discussing possible trades and partners than why fourth line talent is not getting ice time. - VANTEL
It's just so bizzare...his posts read like he's 14 I just can't figure it. It has to be an alt account someone f*cking with us... |
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Canada Cup
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Location: “Give me Point, Cirelli and Paul all day against anybody.” Mr. Cooper , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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All TSN can do is put up articles showing how Laine is conceded and Mathews Humble and other than Marner no one has a chance at top rookie....
Zach Werenski.
THATS the top rookie. He has had more impact on his team than the rest combined.
It should not even be a race. - Beatle_john
You really are losing it but since it's amusing as hell, please carry on. |
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Gotta admit it will be fun to watch Bo on a line with Gaudreau or Pavelski and Burns or Doughty.
If we are changing to an old jersey my vote is for the flying skate ones. Darker colours look better on hockey players IMO
Then there's this...
- NorthNuck
Actually instead of the stick in rink put Johnny Canuck in the blank rink |
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It's just so bizzare...his posts read like he's 14 I just can't figure it. It has to be an alt account someone f*cking with us... - LordHumungous
What ever it is he has to go. |
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I dunno man, Horvats' outscoring some other big names like Tavares, MacKinnon, Trocheck, Gaudreau, Zetterberg and Okposo - he's made great strides this year and its significant to be picked over the Sedins, bcus they still put up good numbers and are game changers (not as often as they used to be but still) - Brooks_Light
It helps that Bo doesn't have to fill Sutter's role and can play his own game. |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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It's just so bizzare...his posts read like he's 14 I just can't figure it. It has to be an alt account someone f*cking with us... - LordHummongous
I thought I knew who it was, but then I thought Makita said he was no alt based on IP address. Sometimes I am not sure though... |
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WhiteLie
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Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087 Joined: 07.26.2010
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