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Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:45 PM ET
We resign Miller..expose Marky
Sedins still here

- Nighthawk

or, we wait until after the expansion to re-sign miller - protect marky and expose bachman. much better idea imo
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 11:45 PM ET
Look man, i appreciate your optimism, but to say the team is going to be better off without the twins is downright ludicrous.

Even if Bo becomes elite material, we would ultimately be devoid of at best, 3 other top six players, assuming Sven and Brock/Virtanen become first line material.

I know you love Benning and all, but this team could not even find Kesler a single (frank)ing decent line-mate over the course of almost a decade...yet somehow we are going to build an entire top 6 line in the course of 2 years lol?

"We can trade": we have no assets.

"We can draft": not if we continue on the path of selecting in the 8 to 15 range (sure we can find a gem or two, but the likelyhood of them making the pro's in the next year or two is rare to say the least.

"We can sign UFAs": When was the last time a decent UFA hit the market? At what age and cost?

It's one thing to be optimistic, it's something completely different to expect Benning to pull a rabbit out of a hat (or in this case, 3).

- Whiskey-Tango


This follows under the category the sky is falling.

Benning said today he gets calls daily from other GMs asking about trading D

People told us including yourself all summer how bad we are , thaat we are a 63 point team. Yet here we are in the hunt for a playoff spot.

Sedins are exploding with a 1 of 23 PP. What are you afraid of hurting? Is 1 of 50 that much worse than 1 of 23? Big deal pay 14 mil for one more goal on the PP .
Is that really that ludicrous? Is there -10 -7 plus /minus not replaceable ?

We have them for another year and I think by that time most fans will be wanting to drive them to the airport. Everyone gets old , we will be fine and if not we will get high picks
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 19 @ 11:45 PM ET
Agree he might get shopped but plan b to entice LV to pick him & we keep Sbisa & a F.
- Nighthawk



out of the box thinking eh.
Though they can always sign Miller after expansion draft
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:49 PM ET
or, we wait until after the expansion to re-sign miller - protect marky and expose bachman. much better idea imo
- Retinalz


Presuming we stand pat....
Which do we like better...
Lose Marky or Sbisa or say Granlund?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:50 PM ET
What a Rangers fan was offering on HF.

NYR offers the following for Tanev:

JT Miller
Ryan Graves
1st (2017)
3rd (2018)

I would love that deal. Though we would most definitely need to trade Hansen and likely Granlund or Baerschi as a result due to protection.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:52 PM ET
Presuming we stand pat....
Which do we like better...
Lose Marky or Sbisa or say Granlund?

- Nighthawk

Why would we lose Marky?
Bachman is our exposed goalie. We aren't protecting a UFA Miller. The choice is between Sbisa and Granlund unless Hansen or Granlund get traded, in which case it is just Sbisa(or Dorsett)
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:52 PM ET
This follows under the category the sky is falling.

Benning said today he gets calls daily from other GMs asking about trading D

People told us including yourself all summer how bad we are , thaat we are a 63 point team. Yet here we are in the hunt for a playoff spot.

Sedins are exploding with a 1 of 23 PP. What are you afraid of hurting? Is 1 of 50 that much worse than 1 of 23? Big deal pay 14 mil for one more goal on the PP .
Is that really that ludicrous? Is there -10 -7 plus /minus not replaceable ?

We have them for another year and I think by that time most fans will be wanting to drive them to the airport. Everyone gets old , we will be fine and if not we will get high picks

- VANTEL


Next year is next year.
The Sedins should be the 2nd line.
If BO's line falters its not on them.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 11:52 PM ET
Marcus Naslund on hi final year as a Canuck was 25 G 30A and -7 .

Remember how we couldn't wait to say goodbye? Very similar situation and numbers to two other Swedish guys on the Canucks.

It is not an insult , evrything has an expiry date and I think next year will be very comparable to when we said goodbye to Naslund
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:52 PM ET
out of the box thinking eh.
Though they can always sign Miller after expansion draft

- Nuck4U


A new wrinkle more like it 😂😂
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 19 @ 11:54 PM ET
Why would we lose Marky?
Bachman is our exposed goalie. We aren't protecting a UFA Miller. The choice is between Sbisa and Granlund unless Hansen or Granlund get traded, in which case it is just Sbisa(or Dorsett)

- Retinalz


Bachman is a pawn nothing more.
The question was who we would rather lose standing pat.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 19 @ 11:59 PM ET
Next year is next year.
The Sedins should be the 2nd line.
If BO's line falters its not on them.

- Nighthawk



The Canucks are not built on one or two players. Everyone has a job and most nights they do it pretty well.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 20 @ 12:04 AM ET
Bachman is a pawn nothing more.
The question was who we would rather lose standing pat.

- Nighthawk

This makes no sense. If Miller will re-sign now, he will re-sign after the expansion draft. No need to lose Markstrom when we can have both. Demko is not ready to back-up in the NHL.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 20 @ 12:07 AM ET
Look man, i appreciate your optimism, but to say the team is going to be better off without the twins is downright ludicrous.

Even if Bo becomes elite material, we would ultimately be devoid of at best, 3 other top six players, assuming Sven and Brock/Virtanen become first line material.

I know you love Benning and all, but this team could not even find Kesler a single (frank)ing decent line-mate over the course of almost a decade...yet somehow we are going to build an entire top 6 line in the course of 2 years lol?

"We can trade": we have no assets.

"We can draft": not if we continue on the path of selecting in the 8 to 15 range, sure we can find a gem or two, but the likelyhood of them making the pro's in the next year or two is rare to say the least.

"We can sign UFAs": When was the last time a decent UFA hit the market? At what age and cost?

It's one thing to be optimistic, it's something completely different to expect Benning to pull a rabbit out of a hat (or in this case, 3).

Hitting rock bottom is absolutely inevitable, most people
understand that.

- Whiskey-Tango


That's saying that the team will stop developing. Did we think Bo would develop to be 1C material? Did we see Granlund and Sven production? The decline of the team has coincided with the Sedins decline. So at this point in transition players can be seen that can fill in their present production. There are assets to trade and players to draft.

What I see you saying is you don't see any superstars to take over. Well okay. But we didn't see Bo and Tree to be showing what they are. So there are plenty of possibilities. Different routes and options that can materialize. Could they fail. Yes. Look how many teams are with named stars. It's a complicated recipe for success.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 20 @ 12:07 AM ET
This follows under the category the sky is falling.

Benning said today he gets calls daily from other GMs asking about trading D

People told us including yourself all summer how bad we are , thaat we are a 63 point team. Yet here we are in the hunt for a playoff spot.

Sedins are exploding with a 1 of 23 PP. What are you afraid of hurting? Is 1 of 50 that much worse than 1 of 23? Big deal pay 14 mil for one more goal on the PP .
Is that really that ludicrous? Is there -10 -7 plus /minus not replaceable ?

We have them for another year and I think by that time most fans will be wanting to drive them to the airport. Everyone gets old , we will be fine and if not we will get high picks

- VANTEL

He didn't say that, he said other teams 'notice their depth at D'.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 12:09 AM ET
This makes no sense. If Miller will re-sign now, he will re-sign after the expansion draft. No need to lose Markstrom when we can have both. Demko is not ready to back-up in the NHL.
- Retinalz

If Miller is not signed by the drat Vegas can try to sign him
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 20 @ 12:09 AM ET
Was 4-0 but the Flames kicked a field goal.
37secs left 4-3

- Nighthawk

Refs got them back in it.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Jan 20 @ 12:10 AM ET
He didn't say that, he said other teams 'notice their depth at D'.
- Marwood

The always awkward "Call out"
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Jan 20 @ 12:11 AM ET
If Miller is not signed by the drat Vegas can try to sign him
- VANTEL

I'm waivering…we may need to sign Miller for at the very least one more year. Markstrom I don't think is going to be our bonafide no 1 'guy' here.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jan 20 @ 12:16 AM ET
Brett Mackenzie will be our surprise.guy next season. Turns 20 in March, averaging over 1 pts. per game in North Bay 6'2" 195 lbs.
Solid in all 3 zones- Eliteprospects.
Sounds like a player that may be able to play 3/4th line in 2018.
I am overly optimistic, but a damn good fan.

Edit: our 2016 7th Rd pick
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 20 @ 12:17 AM ET
This makes no sense. If Miller will re-sign now, he will re-sign after the expansion draft. No need to lose Markstrom when we can have both. Demko is not ready to back-up in the NHL.
- Retinalz



You are right. His point was to do that so Vegas takes Marky and leave Sbisa & Granlund/Hansen alone if they make no trades.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 20 @ 12:18 AM ET
The always awkward "Call out"
- vancity787

I heard the interview.
He also said that 'if' they were to make a move to 'improve their forwards' they would move a D. He also re-iterated that they will not be trading any picks.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 20 @ 12:18 AM ET
Brett Mackenzie will be our surprise.guy next season. Turns 20 in March, averaging over 1 pts. per game in North Bay 6'2" 195 lbs.
Solid in all 3 zones- Eliteprospects.
Sounds like a player that may be able to play 3/4th line in 2018.
I am overly optimistic, but a damn good fan.

- Reubenkincade



Like to see him on Comets if he gets a chance this season.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 20 @ 12:20 AM ET
I heard the interview.
He also said that 'if' they were to make a move to 'improve their forwards' they would move a D. He also re-iterated that they will not be trading any picks.

- Marwood



Salient point.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 20 @ 12:20 AM ET
He didn't say that, he said other teams 'notice their depth at D'.
- Marwood

Go to the Benning interview forward it to the 8.55 mark and listen to it for 30 secpnd

He said the notice our D and ask us about our D
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 20 @ 12:22 AM ET
Go to the Benning interview forward it to the 8.55 mark and listen to it for 30 secpnd

He said the notice our D and ask us about our D

- VANTEL

You make it sound so dirty
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