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Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Feb 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
who do we miss more:
a. McNabb
b. Zadorov

i think with the return its obviously McNabb

- IndianaSabresFan

I don't miss any of our trade Dman. Looking at possible players that will be exposed, right now I feel Myers, Pysyk, McNabb and Zardorov will all be exposed.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Interesting that
Franson 88:03 of PP time (2pp)
Zads 35:40 of pp time (2pp)

Zads is a PP machine, look at that efficiency

- DDM-Coga



On that pace, he'd be about 3 points higher with Franson's pp minutes.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
There is only one eater of worlds



Sorry I had to!

- Stripes77


Kneel before Zads, your Destroyer
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Couldn't they construct a 2nd rink next to the WJC rink, then move it into place for the big game? IDK the logistics, but there's gotta be a way to do it, if you really want to host
- jcragcrumple


Could they? Maybe

But all the piping under the rink is expensive and if you damage one you're screwed.

Moving it would not be something that anyone would even attempt.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
On that pace, he'd be about 3 points higher with Franson's pp minutes.
- stashu


I know, machine...cant stop the offence, won't stop, bad boy for life
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
There is only one eater of worlds



Sorry I had to!

- Stripes77


jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 12:42 PM ET
Could they? Maybe

But all the piping under the rink is expensive and if you damage one you're screwed.

Moving it would not be something that anyone would even attempt.

- Stripes77



It just seems like such a (relatively) trivial reason not to have the WC in a hockey-mad market on the 10th anniversary of its revival
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 16 @ 12:45 PM ET

- stashu



MarvelBuzz
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 16 @ 12:45 PM ET
It just seems like such a (relatively) trivial reason not to have the WC in a hockey-mad market on the 10th anniversary of its revival
- jcragcrumple



Buffalo has shown its "hockey mad" status for years now, and yet the NHL still doesn't feel like the money is there. Otherwise, they would have more events like this, especially with an owner with willing to open up the pocketbook the way he has. Perhaps this is changing with the draft and the combine, but those are smaller in scale compared to the events we are talking about.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 12:49 PM ET
Buffalo has shown its "hockey mad" status for years now, and yet the NHL still doesn't feel like the money is there. Otherwise, they would have more events like this, especially with an owner with willing to open up the pocketbook the way he has. Perhaps this is changing with the draft and the combine, but those are smaller in scale compared to the events we are talking about.
- buffalofan19



Which is odd, because no matter who the opponent is, the Ralph will be completely full. If you want an event to look good on TV, you'll probably get snow, you'll get full attendance, and you'll get a raucous crowd. Not to mention that you know the venue is feasible.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
Which is odd, because no matter who the opponent is, the Ralph will be completely full. If you want an event to look good on TV, you'll probably get snow, you'll get full attendance, and you'll get a raucous crowd. Not to mention that you know the venue is feasible.
- jcragcrumple



Yes, but there hasn't been a Winter Classic locale that hasn't been full.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 12:51 PM ET
Yes, but there hasn't been a Winter Classic locale that hasn't been full.
- buffalofan19


To which I would say to Bettman, "why start now?"
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
It just seems like such a (relatively) trivial reason not to have the WC in a hockey-mad market on the 10th anniversary of its revival
- jcragcrumple


It's all about marketing and money...

Setting up another rink and moving it is not a very cost effective way and extremely risky if it's even possible.

I am not sure of the piping systems of the temporary rinks but I know if one breaks there's extremely crappy ice or worse slush and no ice.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 16 @ 12:55 PM ET
Buffalo has shown its "hockey mad" status for years now, and yet the NHL still doesn't feel like the money is there. Otherwise, they would have more events like this, especially with an owner with willing to open up the pocketbook the way he has. Perhaps this is changing with the draft and the combine, but those are smaller in scale compared to the events we are talking about.
- buffalofan19



Ding ding ding

No stars to showcase, a bad team, etc...

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
It's all about marketing and money...

Setting up another rink and moving it is not a very cost effective way and extremely risky if it's even possible.

I am not sure of the piping systems of the temporary rinks but I know if one breaks there's extremely crappy ice or worse slush and no ice.

- Stripes77


Could you do two layers of ice, with the WJC ice on top, melt that and have the WC ice under? I'm sure there's some way around that problem
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
Could you do two layers of ice, with the WJC ice on top, melt that and have the WC ice under? I'm sure there's some way around that problem
- jcragcrumple


Nope

First you build a base layer of ice, between 3/4 of an inch to an inch, then the ice is painted white, then the logos are put in (the first winter classic used a decal so they didn't have to paint the logos, blue lines, face off circles, etc.), and then you build the ice up more with "clear" ice.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:03 PM ET
Could you do two layers of ice, with the WJC ice on top, melt that and have the WC ice under? I'm sure there's some way around that problem
- jcragcrumple



Holy smoke. Take a few deep breaths McGuyver.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 16 @ 1:05 PM ET
Holy smoke. Take a few deep breaths McGuyver.
- Der Kaiser





I'm sure i could think up a couple more hair-brained ideas, too
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:07 PM ET
Nope

First you build a base layer of ice, between 3/4 of an inch to an inch, then the ice is painted white, then the logos are put in (the first winter classic used a decal so they didn't have to paint the logos, blue lines, face off circles, etc.), and then you build the ice up more with "clear" ice.

- Stripes77


They paint ice?? I just figured it was a big white board underneath with all of the logos/lines and such painted on it.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:10 PM ET
They paint ice?? I just figured it was a big white board underneath with all of the logos/lines and such painted on it.
- stashu


nope hand painted for the most part (lines, face off dots, crease, etc). Logos and such are just vinyl graphics
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
They paint ice?? I just figured it was a big white board underneath with all of the logos/lines and such painted on it.
- stashu


Best color to "paint" it is a deep amber.



homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:11 PM ET
"drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars"





why are we still a fat country then?
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
"drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars"





why are we still a fat country then?

- homiedclown


Because some of us look at a piece of cake and gain 10 lbs.
stashu
Buffalo Sabres
Location: SC
Joined: 06.04.2008

Feb 16 @ 1:13 PM ET
nope hand painted for the most part (lines, face off dots, crease, etc). Logos and such are just vinyl graphics
- DDM-Coga


*insert mind blown gif here*
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 16 @ 1:15 PM ET
"drugs are becoming cheaper than candy bars"





why are we still a fat country then?

- homiedclown


looks over at KFC Tacobell
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