Players have the ability to waive their NMCs is they wish. Should he say "I'll waive mine to leave" then you let him.

Its a big point of chatter with the Rangers right now and Dan Girardi. Do you try to get him to waive his NMC? If you do, and he doesn't, then what? If he doesn't, then how do you maneuver around that? How much do you worry about the impact that will have with agents, free agents and players you're trying to extend when the NHL gets its team in Seattle or Portland?
- Lindenis#1

Yes but not waiving to go to the LVGK

Love both of the trades & expecting more of the same in the morning.
- DrChristianTroy

I'm happy but not in love. I think JB did his job today. I don't think we all need to be so giddy.

There will be vets available this summer. Seriously overpay for a season, move them again to a contender. The appeal to the player is making money and getting a chance to play for the cup.
- golfingsince

It shouldn't be too hard of a sell.

"Hey, Kris Versteeg. Come play for us. Guaranteed 1 way deal and 3 mil. Then if we're out of it we'll send you to Toronto or San Jose or wherever at the deadline."

Three, maybe four of those and the rebuild wouldn't take much more than another season.

Yes but not waiving to go to the LVGK
- Nighthawk

If he's unhappy as some people have guessed, and if he is this mystery player that exists on the team willing to waive their NTC that no one has talked about, then its an avenue worth exploring.

I'm happy but not in love. I think JB did his job today. I don't think we all need to be so giddy.
- bloatedmosquito

There was nowhere to go but up. I'm not a fan of JB's move for veteran talent, but his amateur/AHL deals have been a bright spot of his tenure.

And if the team is ready to commit to a proper rebuild and stop chasing 8th place, he's not the worst guy in the world to have in place.

There will be vets available this summer. Seriously overpay for a season, move them again to a contender. The appeal to the player is making money and getting a chance to play for the cup.
- golfingsince

That's risky. Vets always ask for those no movement clauses. Stick to rookies, prospects, and picks.

That's risky. Vets always ask for those no movement clauses. Stick to rookies, prospects, and picks.
- bloatedmosquito

You just don't give out a NMC. They often take a NMC in exchange for a perceived discount. The NMC's are often more desired by family men that don't want to bounce their families around. Money talks.

If he's unhappy as some people have guessed, and if he is this mystery player that exists on the team willing to waive their NTC that no one has talked about, then its an avenue worth exploring.
- Lindenis#1

Only Sedins & Eriksson have an NMC

Edler has a full NTC
Sutter an NTC but know the details.

It shouldn't be too hard of a sell.

"Hey, Kris Versteeg. Come play for us. Guaranteed 1 way deal and 3 mil. Then if we're out of it we'll send you to Toronto or San Jose or wherever at the deadline."

Three, maybe four of those and the rebuild wouldn't take much more than another season.
- Lindenis#1

Why not? A bunch of mid-round picks for a couple of spare vets to fill the roster holes next year and maybe if Daniel gets his 1K before the TDL the Sedins might be willing to waive along with LE and then you go for 1OA with multiple 1/2nd round picks in a much deeper draft and you're pretty much set going forwards.

There was nowhere to go but up. I'm not a fan of JB's move for veteran talent, but his amateur/AHL deals have been a bright spot of his tenure.

And if the team is ready to commit to a proper rebuild and stop chasing 8th place, he's not the worst guy in the world to have in place.
- Lindenis#1

Agree with the above. But I think we have to be cautious because JB is building a prospect pool and sometimes prospects disappoint.

You just don't give out a NMC. They often take a NMC in exchange for a perceived discount. The NMC's are often more desired by family men that don't want to bounce their families around. Money talks.
- golfingsince

And you're not signing roster filler FA's to NMCs and NTCs. Chasing the big fish this summer is the worst path to go down. Taking some fliers on competent middle 6 vets is where you get your mid round picks back. Maybe one has a great season and you can turn them into a Hansen/Burrows return.

I'm happy but not in love. I think JB did his job today. I don't think we all need to be so giddy.
- bloatedmosquito

I'll go ahead and be giddy... IMO it's a massive step in the right direction philosophy wise. Been begging for TDL moves like these for years.

Agree with the above. But I think we have to be cautious because JB is building a prospect pool and sometimes prospects disappoint.
- bloatedmosquito

But at least there is some quantity now. You can look and say "We have 6 guys and if half of them become players thats good!" when for years it was "We have one guy and another sorta person. Better hope they both hit their ceiling."

Subban, Stecher, Tryamkin, Hutton, Juolevi, Pedan, Brisbois. If you can hit on half of them you're set. Even a guy like Sautner might have a future as a bottom pairing guy.

Same goes on the wings now with Dahlen and Goldobin to join JV and Boeser in behind Rodin, Baertschi and Granlund.

Just need to get some guys who can play center.

And you're not signing roster filler FA's to NMCs and NTCs. Chasing the big fish this summer is the worst path to go down. Taking some fliers on competent middle 6 vets is where you get your mid round picks back. Maybe one has a great season and you can turn them into a Hansen/Burrows return.
- Lindenis#1

There r no big fish to chase

Why not? A bunch of mid-round picks for a couple of spare vets to fill the roster holes next year and maybe if Daniel gets his 1K before the TDL the Sedins might be willing to waive along with LE and then you go for 1OA with multiple 1/2nd round picks in a much deeper draft and you're pretty much set going forwards.
- DariusKnight

Exactly. If this is where Benning goes, I'll be ecstatic.

If he locks himself into huge dollars and term on some FA or even Gudbranson, I'll be disappointed and feel like we're back to the last two summers.

But at least there is some quantity now. You can look and say "We have 6 guys and if half of them become players thats good!" when for years it was "We have one guy and another sorta person. Better hope they both hit their ceiling."

Subban, Stecher, Tryamkin, Hutton, Juolevi, Pedan, Brisbois. If you can hit on half of them you're set. Even a guy like Sautner might have a future as a bottom pairing guy.

Same goes on the wings now with Dahlen and Goldobin to join JV and Boeser in behind Rodin, Baertschi and Granlund.

Just need to get some guys who can play center.
- Lindenis#1

Looks like Gaudette & the draft or........


















Stockpiling so JB swings for the fence getting Duchene as 1 piece to build on?

There r no big fish to chase
- Nighthawk

Bishop, Shattenkirk, Oshie, Hanzal, Radulov are going to be out there. Not that I'd expect the Canucks to be seriously in on them, but when you have 20 mil of cap space (not including new deals for RFAs) I can see the temptation management would have to spend it.

And you're not signing roster filler FA's to NMCs and NTCs. Chasing the big fish this summer is the worst path to go down. Taking some fliers on competent middle 6 vets is where you get your mid round picks back. Maybe one has a great season and you can turn them into a Hansen/Burrows return.
- Lindenis#1

You just described LE. And he was able to get one of the most player friendly contracts ever handed out. He's basically un-tradable and you can't buy him out without a crippling penalty.

I don't like vets of any kind. We still have enough of our own. 25 and under only.

Bishop, Shattenkirk, Oshie, Hanzal, Radulov are going to be out there. Not that I'd expect the Canucks to be seriously in on them, but when you have 20 mil of cap space (not including new deals for RFAs) I can see the temptation management would have to spend it.
- Lindenis#1

Bishop too much & makes no sense
Shattenkirk not worth it
Oshie wants to contend
Hanzal no thx
Radulov prolly resigns with the Habs

Impressed with JB so far this TDL. Talk about a message being sent to Virtanen as well. …cupboards are filling up…time to lay off the teen burgers JV
- LordHumungous

These young guys are skill players still no power forwards like JV in the system.

You just described LE. And he was able to get one of the most player friendly contracts ever handed out. He's basically un-tradable and you can't buy him out without a crippling penalty.

I don't like vets of any kind. We still have enough of our own. 25 and under only.
- bloatedmosquito

2018 only having LE with an NMC is tolerable

These young guys are skill players still no power forwards like JV in the system.
- Nuck4U

Labate

I'll go ahead and be giddy... IMO it's a massive step in the right direction philosophy wise. Been begging for TDL moves like these for years.
- DrChristianTroy

don't let me stop you.

I agree with you, I've been waiting for years. So it's nice to finally see this management group accept reality and get on with what needs to be done. But there is still lots of work to be done. I really hope for another trade or two.

Bishop too much & makes no sense
Shattenkirk not worth it
Oshie wants to contend
Hanzal no thx
Radulov prolly resigns with the Habs
- Nighthawk

I'm not saying they're good ideas, just that there are players who can get a big ticket this summer and when you have 20 mil to spend, you might not see things clearly. "We have tons of money now, and can make the money work down the road." Its how you get Eriksson and, to a lesser extent, Sutter at inflated contracts. Its a worry about Gudbranson, who was a non factor all year and I feel like the Canucks D has been better since he got injured.

I hope they don't, but it doesn't mean they won't try for some god forsaken reason.

You just described LE. And he was able to get one of the most player friendly contracts ever handed out. He's basically un-tradable and you can't buy him out without a crippling penalty.

I don't like vets of any kind. We still have enough of our own. 25 and under only.
- bloatedmosquito

No, Eriksson was a guy coming off a 30 goal season with a track record of high production and great PP numbers.

I'm talking more of your Hansen and Burrows style FA bargains. A guy like Versteeg or Stempniak or Eaves or Franson or Oduya, etc. Even a guy like Gionta on a one year, low-ish money deal. Then you turn around at the deadline and flip them.

There are lots of guys like that every year hanging around after a week of FA. Toss a bit of extra change their way, maybe the sign with you and then you can control part of the market at the next TDD.