Maybe im nuts.......but thats a phucking great resume lol. Be a pal and do the same thing for Snow......lets all have a laugh.
- kindlyrick

Your not nuts KR UR is Nuts!

Their isn't a Stanley Cup winning team that doesn't have contracts that they are strangled with or a depleted farm system/prospect group because of moves to construct said Stanley Cup Champion teams.

Take Lombardi in a heartbeat! Hell even if he lost a step or two he would be an upgrade over the 10 year 1 PO round win Back up goalie/GM thats running the circus in Brooklyn.

He needs to be gone completely. Let him go man.
- Cptmjl

I'm not campaigning to keep him, but simply saying I'm fine with him running the scouting department.

He needs to be gone completely. Let him go man.
- Cptmjl

I agree. No need to keep Garth on to do anything.

Your not nuts KR UR is Nuts!

Their isn't a Stanley Cup winning team that doesn't have contracts that they are strangled with or a depleted farm system/prospect group because of moves to construct said Stanley Cup Champion teams.

Take Lombardi in a heartbeat! Hell even if he lost a step or two he would be an upgrade over the 10 year 1 PO round win Back up goalie/GM thats running the circus in Brooklyn.
- nyisles7

100% agree. The bottom line is Lombardi aside from his accomplishments, has been a player in the league with respect to bringing in established vets. The isles are in need of a push to get the team to the next level. That push is what comes with a Dean Lombardi. A guy who's gonna address the holes of this team......not continue to build build build.

What Garth has done well is be patient. But his patience has been a blessing inside a curse. 10 years later and we're still waiting. He has done a fantastic job of adding more picks to start the rebuild. BUT, after 10 years of drafting, you and I could come up with some gems too. Im just not sold on the idea that he's done a great job at drafting.......to me he's been average.

To add to this, my personal opinion, is the Nino, Strome, Reinhardt drafts, three years respectively, are what set the franchise back. None of those three have been additions to the rebuild........which is three years of adding nothing to top 6 up front or top 3 on the back end.
- kindlyrick

The Isles aren't the only team that misses on picks.
2010 - Brett Connolly 6th
2011 - Jonas Brodin 10th
2012 - Ryan Murray 2nd
2013 - Samuel Morin 11th
2014 - Haydn Fleury 7th
2015 - Timo Meier

I didn't look at 2016 as it's still too soon. There are many other players in those drafts taken in the first round that haven't even sniffed the NHL. I'm not defending Snow, but he hasn't been a complete disaster drafting. The development of the picks is where this team is severely lacking.

The Isles aren't the only team that misses on picks.
2010 - Brett Connolly 6th
2011 - Jonas Brodin 10th
2012 - Ryan Murray 2nd
2013 - Samuel Morin 11th
2014 - Haydn Fleury 7th
2015 - Timo Meier

I didn't look at 2016 as it's still too soon. There are many other players in those drafts taken in the first round that haven't even sniffed the NHL. I'm not defending Snow, but he hasn't been a complete disaster drafting. The development of the picks is where this team is severely lacking.
- Isleshockeyman

Lack of development and coaching has been the bigger problem. Garth's draft would really look good if Cappy was not coaching for 7 years. Keeping Cappy this long made no sense since Garth seems to love his draft picks and wants to build from within.

100% agree. The bottom line is Lombardi aside from his accomplishments, has been a player in the league with respect to bringing in established vets. The isles are in need of a push to get the team to the next level. That push is what comes with a Dean Lombardi. A guy who's gonna address the holes of this team......not continue to build build build.
- kindlyrick

The guy won 2 Cups.How many did the Rags win after years of making trade deadline deals for that last piece to win the Cup. It isn't easy to win the cup let alone twice.
I be willing to have Lombardi take a crack at taking this team to the next level without thinking twice. Who has a resume currently available close to his? Not only that, does he even want to come here at all? If he does make it happen L and M quickly!

The Isles aren't the only team that misses on picks.
2010 - Brett Connolly 6th
2011 - Jonas Brodin 10th
2012 - Ryan Murray 2nd
2013 - Samuel Morin 11th
2014 - Haydn Fleury 7th
2015 - Timo Meier

I didn't look at 2016 as it's still too soon. There are many other players in those drafts taken in the first round that haven't even sniffed the NHL. I'm not defending Snow, but he hasn't been a complete disaster drafting. The development of the picks is where this team is severely lacking.
- Isleshockeyman

Morin and Fleury are top prospects, not sure why they are on that list. Meier still too early to make a call on that.

Your not nuts KR UR is Nuts!

Their isn't a Stanley Cup winning team that doesn't have contracts that they are strangled with or a depleted farm system/prospect group because of moves to construct said Stanley Cup Champion teams.

Take Lombardi in a heartbeat! Hell even if he lost a step or two he would be an upgrade over the 10 year 1 PO round win Back up goalie/GM thats running the circus in Brooklyn.
- nyisles7

Actually what I've seen is the opposite. LA (Ontario), San Jose (San Jose) & Anaheim (San Diego) all have AHL teams that are loaded because there's no room on the big club for those guys. Obviously there's some guys going up & down, but as a group they're solid. It's the lower end teams that have AHL teams struggling, Colorado (San Antonio) & Phoenix (Tucson) in particular.

The guy won 2 Cups.How many did the Rags win after years of making trade deadline deals for that last piece to win the Cup. It isn't easy to win the cup let alone twice.
I be willing to have Lombardi take a crack at taking this team to the next level without thinking twice. Who has a resume currently available close to his? Not only that, does he even want to come here at all? If he does make it happen L and M quickly!
- nyisles7

Exactly right 7. How many teams would take the two Cups Lombardi won? As I posted before, even Bill Torrey had lean years after the Cups. Most teams in multiple sports struggle after their championship runs outside of the Pats. If someone has a better name than Lombardi let's have it.

The Isles aren't the only team that misses on picks.
2010 - Brett Connolly 6th
2011 - Jonas Brodin 10th
2012 - Ryan Murray 2nd
2013 - Samuel Morin 11th
2014 - Haydn Fleury 7th
2015 - Timo Meier

I didn't look at 2016 as it's still too soon. There are many other players in those drafts taken in the first round that haven't even sniffed the NHL. I'm not defending Snow, but he hasn't been a complete disaster drafting. The development of the picks is where this team is severely lacking.
- Isleshockeyman

A chimp throwing darts at a dart board full of top prospects is gonna get it right once in a while too
But I gauge drafting and player development, on the success of a franchise and 1 PO round win in 10 years isn't cutting it for me IHM, nor for you, i know that.

Morin and Fleury are top prospects, not sure why they are on that list. Meier still too early to make a call on that.
- eichiefs9

Not saying they're not top prospects. The reason I put Morin on there was because everybody drafted ahead of him is or has played in the NHL. Fleury is defenseman which generally takes more time to develop, but again, the least amount of NHL experience of the top 10 in his class.
My point was that every other team isn't hitting home runs with there picks while the Isles flounder. Everybody misses on picks. I was actually trying to support your argument a bit about Snow. Not a disaster on draft day. Everything else, yes.

http://www.newsday.com/sp...d-scott-malkin-1.13428062

Not saying they're not top prospects. The reason I put Morin on there was because everybody drafted ahead of him is or has played in the NHL. Fleury is defenseman which generally takes more time to develop, but again, the least amount of NHL experience of the top 10 in his class.
My point was that every other team isn't hitting home runs with there picks while the Isles flounder. Everybody misses on picks. I was actually trying to support your argument a bit about Snow. Not a disaster on draft day. Everything else, yes.
- Isleshockeyman

No I know you were agreeing, I just didn't think that Morin/Fleury belonged there.

If you're talking strictly about drafting prospects only, the Islanders are damn near the top of the league in terms of their stable of prospects. Again, doesn't make up for the failure that Snow has been...but there are teams out there that are absolutely devoid of any talent in the pipeline. In the case of successful teams that have won championships it's justified, but there are plenty of mediocre-or-worse teams that have literal dog shit in the pipeline.

Actually what I've seen is the opposite. LA (Ontario), San Jose (San Jose) & Anaheim (San Diego) all have AHL teams that are loaded because there's no room on the big club for those guys. Obviously there's some guys going up & down, but as a group they're solid. It's the lower end teams that have AHL teams struggling, Colorado (San Antonio) & Phoenix (Tucson) in particular.
- Isleshockeyman

I get that, IHM but if you didn't trade your picks/prospects for that final piece or two to win the cup, would your farm system and or prospect pool be stronger, of course. That's what I getting at.

Look at the Caps, they make that deal for shatter at the dead line for Shatter, does their Farm system/Prospect pool take a hit hell yeah, but if they win the Cup WGAF !

"Snow has four playoff appearances in 11 seasons as GM. According to numerous sources around the league, he also has a contract with at least five more seasons on it, a parting gift of sorts from loyal former owner Charles Wang when he turned control of the team over to Malkin and Ledecky."


Is this true?!

A chimp throwing darts at a dart board full of top prospects is gonna get it right once in a while too
But I gauge drafting and player development, on the success of a franchise and 1 PO round win in 10 years isn't cutting it for me IHM, nor for you, i know that.
- nyisles7

Player development is where this team lacks, in my opinion. Draft all the talent you want, but if you can't develop them properly, they're not going to be that successful.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey/islanders/big-decisions-ahead-for-islanders-owners-jon-ledecky-and-scott-malkin-1.13428062
- ses111

Snow has four playoff appearances in 11 seasons as GM. According to numerous sources around the league, he also has a contract with at least five more seasons on it, a parting gift of sorts from loyal former owner Charles Wang when he turned control of the team over to Malkin and Ledecky.

Wow. Never actually saw that confirmed anywhere.

Wang is one titanic-sized piece of human garbage.

"Snow has four playoff appearances in 11 seasons as GM. According to numerous sources around the league, he also has a contract with at least five more seasons on it, a parting gift of sorts from loyal former owner Charles Wang when he turned control of the team over to Malkin and Ledecky."


Is this true?!
- Mancalledsting

God I hope not. L&M's lawyers better find a loophole if it is.

"Snow has four playoff appearances in 11 seasons as GM. According to numerous sources around the league, he also has a contract with at least five more seasons on it, a parting gift of sorts from loyal former owner Charles Wang when he turned control of the team over to Malkin and Ledecky."


Is this true?!
- Mancalledsting

I'm sure it is. I just posted the article. 5 years should still not stop Ledecky from firing Garth.

The Isles aren't the only team that misses on picks.
2010 - Brett Connolly 6th
2011 - Jonas Brodin 10th
2012 - Ryan Murray 2nd
2013 - Samuel Morin 11th
2014 - Haydn Fleury 7th
2015 - Timo Meier

I didn't look at 2016 as it's still too soon. There are many other players in those drafts taken in the first round that haven't even sniffed the NHL. I'm not defending Snow, but he hasn't been a complete disaster drafting. The development of the picks is where this team is severely lacking.
- Isleshockeyman

Fair point but only one team wins the cup each year. My opinion was that Snows been average at best with the draft. Ryan Jankowski was canned in 2010.....that was the year the isles drafted Nino, Strome and then Reinhardt. To me, that three years of top 5 picks (by Garth) is what set the team back.

Your not nuts KR UR is Nuts!

Their isn't a Stanley Cup winning team that doesn't have contracts that they are strangled with or a depleted farm system/prospect group because of moves to construct said Stanley Cup Champion teams.

Take Lombardi in a heartbeat! Hell even if he lost a step or two he would be an upgrade over the 10 year 1 PO round win Back up goalie/GM thats running the circus in Brooklyn.
- nyisles7

I'm not disagreeing with you but you're wrong

Snow has four playoff appearances in 11 seasons as GM. According to numerous sources around the league, he also has a contract with at least five more seasons on it, a parting gift of sorts from loyal former owner Charles Wang when he turned control of the team over to Malkin and Ledecky.

Wow. Never actually saw that confirmed anywhere.

Wang is one titanic-sized piece of human garbage.
- eichiefs9

This is what most of us have speculated on. This is not a shock at all Wang would do this.

3 Words.. Two Stanley Cups
- nyisles7

3 words
Current cap hell

I'm sure it is. I just posted the article. 5 years should still not stop Ledecky from firing Garth.
- ses111

If true that's an absolute bottom of the barrel scummy move.