And I'm not saying Garth's job is safe btw. Him not pulling the trigger on Cappy and missing the playoffs as a result is not a good impression to make on brand new full-time owners.
- bgainesDM

We can spend an entire day here listing the things Snow has done wrong. I found it funny that he was praising Capuano and mentioning how he was a coach for Team USA, and then two weeks later gave him the boot. That to me was laughable.

I know what you're saying and I get it......but the days of being an 8th seed and or facing teams back up goalie should be over. The answer is to hire a POHO who is respected and has a past of winning. That will trickle down.

- eaf62

Im not expecting Pat Riley gear, but for phuck sakes.......act like you belong. Was there a worse dressed combo in prof sports???

We can spend an entire day here listing the things Snow has done wrong. I found it funny that he was praising Capuano and mentioning how he was a coach for Team USA, and then two weeks later gave him the boot. That to me was laughable.

I know what you're saying and I get it......but the days of being an 8th seed and or facing teams back up goalie should be over. The answer is to hire a POHO who is respected and has a past of winning. That will trickle down.
- kindlyrick

Well, I blame Snow for different reasons. Just because I disagree with other reasons people have when complaining about Snow does not mean I defend and support him and want him to stay. Just getting that out there.

Now, again. I agree his loyalty towards Capuano could cost him his job. Had he pulled the trigger just 3 weeks beforehand, they'd be in a playoff spot and maybe a few groaner fans.

Also, not sure about the problem of being an 8th seed. Kings won a cup being in the 8th seed.

Well, I blame Snow for different reasons. Just because I disagree with other reasons people have when complaining about Snow does not mean I defend and support him and want him to stay. Just getting that out there.

Now, again. I agree his loyalty towards Capuano could cost him his job. Had he pulled the trigger just 3 weeks beforehand, they'd be in a playoff spot and maybe a few groaner fans.

Also, not sure about the problem of being an 8th seed. Kings won a cup being in the 8th seed.
- bgainesDM

Is that your real head as your avatar? My a.d.d is overboard.

Well, I blame Snow for different reasons. Just because I disagree with other reasons people have when complaining about Snow does not mean I defend and support him and want him to stay. Just getting that out there.

Now, again. I agree his loyalty towards Capuano could cost him his job. Had he pulled the trigger just 3 weeks beforehand, they'd be in a playoff spot and maybe a few groaner fans.

Also, not sure about the problem of being an 8th seed. Kings won a cup being in the 8th seed.
- bgainesDM

How many 8th seeds win cups? This roster isnt good enough to win a cup as an 8th seed. Furthermore, the Kings underachieved during the regular season. They werent a true 8th seed. Let us remember that without home ice you're at a dissadvantage with line matching........not that Crappy ever did that. My point was i'd rather the isles miss the playoffs and get a better pick/better asset, then be David fighting Goliath.

Is that your real head as your avatar? My a.d.d is overboard.
- Upstate_isles

I dont know why but this cracked me up......

Is that your real head as your avatar? My a.d.d is overboard.
- Upstate_isles

I couldn't afford the bag like 7 could.

How many 8th seeds win cups? This roster isnt good enough to win a cup as an 8th seed. Furthermore, the Kings underachieved during the regular season. They werent a true 8th seed. Let us remember that without home ice you're at a dissadvantage with line matching........not that Crappy ever did that. My point was i'd rather the isles miss the playoffs and get a better pick/better asset, then be David fighting Goliath.
- kindlyrick

Also for their 2nd cup didnt they go 7 games every series and multiple ot's

How many 8th seeds win cups? This roster isnt good enough to win a cup as an 8th seed. Furthermore, the Kings underachieved during the regular season. They werent a true 8th seed. Let us remember that without home ice you're at a dissadvantage with line matching........not that Crappy ever did that. My point was i'd rather the isles miss the playoffs and get a better pick/better asset, then be David fighting Goliath.
- kindlyrick

And neither are the Islanders this season if the trigger was pulled on Cappy quicker or if they had a proven coach in the first place.

Also for their 2nd cup didnt they go 7 games every series and multiple ot's
- Upstate_isles

And didn't get home ice advantage until the finals....

I couldn't afford the bag like 7 did.
- bgainesDM

Well at least use your Na'vi one



Edit: I think I'm losing my mind......I'm just laughing at nothing

And neither are the Islanders this season if the trigger was pulled on Cappy quicker or if they had a proven coach in the first place.
- bgainesDM

Buddy we're gonna have to just agree to disagree.......this roster with Babcock is nogood enough. Weight did a good job, and the isles were a better team, but he got the most out of them and they still lost a few pivotal games at the end. This isles roster this year, couldnt beat the isles roster of last year, let alone the Cup winning kings.

Maybe you dont mind back dooring it in, and being the 8th seed having to face the Caps off the bat. But i dont......it would be a sh!t show. This team was not constructed to take a team like the Caps in a 7 game series.

Anybody know what is going to happen in goal next year? Now we have two guys being paid as starters?? I like them both but will the Assman try and move Halak??

Buddy we're gonna have to just agree to disagree.......this roster with Babcock is nogood enough. Weight did a good job, and the isles were a better team, but he got the most out of them and they still lost a few pivotal games at the end. This isles roster this year, couldnt beat the isles roster of last year, let alone the Cup winning kings.
- kindlyrick

So, our defense on paper is worse than Toronto's? I fail to understand that point. Absolutely, this team could've been in a divisional spot under Babcock. No doubt about that. I'm not saying this roster can't use a couple more tweaks. PLEASE don't get things twisted. I'm simply saying where this roster would stand right now with the right coach. That's all.

So, our defense is worse than Toronto's? I fail to understand that point. Absolutely, this team could've been in a divisional spot under Babcock. No doubt about that. I'm not saying this roster can't use a couple more tweaks. PLEASE don't get things twisted. I'm simply saying where this roster would stand right now with the right coach. That's all.
- bgainesDM

With the right coach this team coulda been a first round exit. Im not ok with that. Scotty Bowman in his prime isnt fixing the 3 goalie rotation, or the failure to use your 100+ MPH d man on the PP point........which continued to have Ryan (weak on the puck) Strome. The coaching was atrocious, but you gotta see the forrest through the trees. The problems here are far greater than sh!tty coaching.

Anybody know what is going to happen in goal next year? Now we have two guys being paid as starters?? I like them both but will the Assman try and move Halak??
- joegreif17

So, our defense on paper is worse than Toronto's? I fail to understand that point. Absolutely, this team could've been in a divisional spot under Babcock. No doubt about that. I'm not saying this roster can't use a couple more tweaks. PLEASE don't get things twisted. I'm simply saying where this roster would stand right now with the right coach. That's all.
- bgainesDM

The kings could play d, they have a legit #1 d man they had a top goalie, and guys who at the time could score also kopitar is about as good as bergeron as far as two way forwards are concerned do the Islanders have a legit top goalie do they have a legit top defenseman do they have depth at forward and by that I mean guys who can score a clutch goal besides their captain? For me the answer is no.

- Vukota

Who starts next year Greiss or Halak? Does Halak get moved? I am sure there would be interest in him. Or do they keep them both at 8 mill locked into goalies??

Who starts next year Greiss or Halak? Does Halak get moved? I am sure there would be interest in him. Or do they keep them both at 8 mill locked into goalies??
- joegreif17

The entire goalie situation is a laughingstock. I gotta think Halak is moved. They really treated him poorly if you ask me.

With the right coach this team coulda been a first round exit. Im not ok with that. Scotty Bowman in his prime isnt fixing the 3 goalie rotation, or the failure to use your 100+ MPH d man on the PP point. The coaching was abominabol, but you gotta see the forrest through the trees. The problems here are far greater than sh!tty coaching.
- kindlyrick

And I'm going to disagree with the criticism about the 3 goalie situation(Does NOT mean I want Snow to stay btw). Halak's inconsistency in health is what led to that situation(step right up, groin tear vs. Pittsburgh 2016). Maybe we wouldn't have female doged about the PP if we had the right coach. When we got Boychuk, we thought the PP would skyrocket as well given his slapshot(though not high in MPH as Pulock's, but I think you get the point). I want to see this team with the right coach for once. I think this roster(yes I want a couple more improvements in D on the roster too) is a playoff roster with the right coach.

Im not expecting Pat Riley gear, but for phuck sakes.......act like you belong. Was there a worse dressed combo in prof sports???
- kindlyrick

No, it wasn't. Especially I liked Cappy's haircut and oversized shirts

With the right coach this team coulda been a first round exit. Im not ok with that. Scotty Bowman in his prime isnt fixing the 3 goalie rotation, or the failure to use your 100+ MPH d man on the PP point........which continued to have Ryan (weak on the puck) Strome. The coaching was atrocious, but you gotta see the forrest through the trees. The problems here are far greater than sh!tty coaching.
- kindlyrick

I can see Berube and Halak gone, Weight is coming back, Tavares is happy, Strome is useless, Greiss starts and if he can get it done, cheap back up on the way, If Greiss struggles Snow inquires about Halak, haha

The kings could play d, they have a legit #1 d man they had a top goalie, and guys who at the time could score also kopitar is about as good as bergeron as far as two way forwards are concerned do the Islanders have a legit top goalie do they have a legit top defenseman do they have depth at forward and by that I mean guys who can score a clutch goal besides their captain? For me the answer is no.
- Upstate_isles

Anders Lee had 34 goals this year and still scored at the same pace when JT got hurt. They don't have a legit workhorse goalie(one of the tweaks I'm looking at.) Legit top D is another tweak. That's it though. Ladd and Chimera had 20+. Again, I want to see this team with the right coach.
(Just leaving this out there. I'm not saying Snow shouldn't go. Just disagreeing with other statements.)

The entire goalie situation is a laughingstock. I gotta think Halak is moved. They really treated him poorly if you ask me.
- kindlyrick

I agree and Halak will have no problem getting a job for one year. If he was a fa it would be easy but Snow will not trade him to Philly and may just waste a year of Halak's career in spite. Time will tell but Snow really cost this team a playoff spot. When Berube failed them there was a hot Halak ready like Little Caesars and he was in the minors. Those wins would have made the difference.

I'd almost rather see him demoted and publicly emasculated to an overpaid intern.
- eichiefs9

He could have a small office(broom closet) and study the analytics breakdown after each game.

I overheard a conversation by an Isles employee and apparently Garth relies on analytics after EACH game to decide whether to sit or play certain players. He's gone completely Moneyball on his approach and makes all the roster calls. Not the Coach—, Garth.