And I'm going to disagree with the criticism about the 3 goalie situation(Does NOT mean I want Snow to stay btw). Halak's inconsistency in health is what led to that situation(step right up, groin tear vs. Pittsburgh 2016). Maybe we wouldn't have female doged about the PP if we had the right coach. When we got Boychuk, we thought the PP would skyrocket as well given his slapshot(though not high in MPH as Pulock's, but I think you get the point). I want to see this team with the right coach for once. I think this roster(yes I want a couple more improvements in D on the roster too) is a playoff roster with the right coach.
- bgainesDM

Boychuk can shoot but he's not pulock, pulock has way better offensive instincts and is a better skater out there. All the goalies hated having 3 guys. Injuries are an issue for halak but that's why you have greiss.they opted to keep an unproven keeper who proved to be not NHL caliber.

And I'm going to disagree with the criticism about the 3 goalie situation(Does NOT mean I want Snow to stay btw). Halak's inconsistency in health is what led to that situation(step right up, groin tear vs. Pittsburgh 2016). Maybe we wouldn't have female doged about the PP if we had the right coach. When we got Boychuk, we thought the PP would skyrocket as well given his slapshot(though not high in MPH as Pulock's, but I think you get the point). I want to see this team with the right coach for once. I think this roster(yes I want a couple more improvements in D on the roster too) is a playoff roster with the right coach.
- bgainesDM

Halaks inconsistency led them to send their "starting goaltender" the same goaltender who outperformed every goalie at worlds over the summer to the AHL? Or was it that he was unhappy with the 3 headed monster and Garth basically said go phuck yourself. Injuries are one thing, but thats not what led him being banished to the minors, only to be called up when Berube sh!t the bed, and the isles were reaching desperately for the 8th seed. TOTAL mismanagement. No coach is fixing that.

The PP has been a joke for years.......not having Pulock at the point is a phucking joke. Thats not a coaching decision.....its all on Snow.

He could have a small office(broom closet) and study the analytics breakdown after each game.

I overheard a conversation by an Isles employee and apparently Garth relies on analytics after EACH game to decide whether to sit or play certain players. He's gone completely Moneyball on his approach and makes all the roster calls. Not the Coach—, Garth.
- jmo16

Same thing happening in Philly. Hakstol should have been fired for his misuse of players. However Hextall himself was making these changes and not the coach and that is why he was not fired imo.

I'm curious if the Sutter/Lombardi firings mean John Stevens isn't really a lock to take over the coaching job. Have to imagine that there is a really good chance that Blake will want to insert his own coach and may mean that Stevens is let go. By the same token, Blake worked under Lombardi and may want to put Stevens at the helm.

I believe I read last night that LA is having a press conference today to cover that info.

Halaks inconsistency led them to send their "starting goaltender" the same goaltender who outperformed every goalie at worlds over the summer to the AHL? Or was it that he was unhappy with the 3 headed monster and Garth basically said go phuck yourself. Injuries are one thing, but thats not what led him being banished to the minors, only to be called up when Berube sh!t the bed, and the isles were reaching desperately for the 8th seed. TOTAL mismanagement. No coach is fixing that.

The PP has been a joke for years.......not having Pulock at the point is a phucking joke. Thats not a coaching decision.....its all on Snow.
- kindlyrick

Totally agree with this

I'm curious if the Sutter/Lombardi firings mean John Stevens isn't really a lock to take over the coaching job. Have to imagine that there is a really good chance that Blake will want to insert his own coach and may mean that Stevens is let go. By the same token, Blake worked under Lombardi and may want to put Stevens at the helm.

I believe I read last night that LA is having a press conference today to cover that info.
- eichiefs9

Let me know when the Isles are having their press conference.

Who starts next year Greiss or Halak? Does Halak get moved? I am sure there would be interest in him. Or do they keep them both at 8 mill locked into goalies??
- joegreif17

If Snow is still in charge then most likely Halak is gone. If a new GM comes in I think there is a good chance they keep both

He could have a small office(broom closet) and study the analytics breakdown after each game.

I overheard a conversation by an Isles employee and apparently Garth relies on analytics after EACH game to decide whether to sit or play certain players. He's gone completely Moneyball on his approach and makes all the roster calls. Not the Coach—, Garth.
- jmo16

I can easily believe this. This is why Cappy stayed so long because he can be controlled.

Halaks inconsistency led them to send their "starting goaltender" the same goaltender who outperformed every goalie at worlds over the summer to the AHL? Or was it that he was unhappy with the 3 headed monster and Garth basically said go phuck yourself. Injuries are one thing, but thats not what led him being banished to the minors, only to be called up when Berube sh!t the bed, and the isles were reaching desperately for the 8th seed. TOTAL mismanagement. No coach is fixing that.

The PP has been a joke for years.......not having Pulock at the point is a phucking joke. Thats not a coaching decision.....its all on Snow.
- kindlyrick

Who's coaching the PP though?

Halaks inconsistency led them to send their "starting goaltender" the same goaltender who outperformed every goalie at worlds over the summer to the AHL? Or was it that he was unhappy with the 3 headed monster and Garth basically said go phuck yourself. Injuries are one thing, but thats not what led him being banished to the minors, only to be called up when Berube sh!t the bed, and the isles were reaching desperately for the 8th seed. TOTAL mismanagement. No coach is fixing that.

The PP has been a joke for years.......not having Pulock at the point is a phucking joke. Thats not a coaching decision.....its all on Snow.
- kindlyrick

I also think Pulock and Leddy would be a great pp unit from the back end. Leddy can feather some nice passes to Pulock for the one timer and vice versa.

If Snow is still in charge then most likely Halak is gone. If a new GM comes in I think there is a good chance they keep both
- Vukota

When Cory Schneider was on the block the isles shoulda been all over it. I like Halak, and I think he's a legit #1, but with his injury history, you really need a 1A and a 1B.

I also think Pulock and Leddy would be a great pp unit from the back end. Leddy can feather some nice passes to Pulock for the one timer and vice versa.
- joegreif17

Absolutely, and more importantly, Leddy can gain the zone, which the isles seem to have had a problem doing since Mark Streit was here.

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In my opinion if you're a goalie, you gotta perform no matter what the circumstance. The 3-goalie situation didn't falter their play in the 2nd half of last year(before Halak's injury). Can't we just simply say they had a bad stretch and found their game later on? And no, this doesn't absolve the Crappy coaching btw.

Earlier some were talking about the bad contracts Lombardi has handed out. Snow has given out quite a few himself.

Cizikas, Clutterbuck,Kulimen, Grabovski, Ladd, Boychuk

If Snow is still in charge then most likely Halak is gone. If a new GM comes in I think there is a good chance they keep both
- Vukota

In a cap world can you afford 7.9 mill on two goalies?? I think they will probably move Halak, use Greiss at 3 mil and bring in a cheaper back up around a mill and save almost 4 mill on a skater?? How will Tavares 10 mill get covered?

When Cory Schneider was on the block the isles shoulda been all over it. I like Halak, and I think he's a legit #1, but with his injury history, you really need a 1A and a 1B.
- kindlyrick

100% yes

Earlier some were talking about the bad contracts Lombardi has handed out. Snow has given out quite a few himself.

Cizikas, Clutterbuck,Kulimen, Grabovski, Ladd, Boychuk
- Vukota

Exactly Vukota and Lombardi got two Cups out of some of his bad contracts. What has Garth won?

Who's coaching the PP though?
- bgainesDM

Ive said many times that Weight is not a good PP guy........look at the math. Numbers dont lie. He's a better head coach than a PP guy. You need a PP guy for sure. The PP has been bad for far too long.

When Cory Schneider was on the block the isles shoulda been all over it. I like Halak, and I think he's a legit #1, but with his injury history, you really need a 1A and a 1B.
- kindlyrick

Word on the street was they thought they had him before the draft. Then Vancouver took the devils deal instead. Nino was part of the package going back to the cancuks

Same thing happening in Philly. Hakstol should have been fired for his misuse of players. However Hextall himself was making these changes and not the coach and that is why he was not fired imo.
- joegreif17

GM's should stay the frank out of lineup decisions.

Word on the street was they thought they had him before the draft. Then Vancouver took the devils deal instead. Nino was part of the package going back to the cancuks
- Vukota

I heard the same.

In a cap world can you afford 7.9 mill on two goalies?? I think they will probably move Halak, use Greiss at 3 mil and bring in a cheaper back up around a mill and save almost 4 mill on a skater?? How will Tavares 10 mill get covered?
- joegreif17

For one year yes. JT's contract won't kick in before Halak is gone

When Cory Schneider was on the block the isles shoulda been all over it. I like Halak, and I think he's a legit #1, but with his injury history, you really need a 1A and a 1B.
- kindlyrick

They had that with greiss and halak

In my opinion if you're a goalie, you gotta perform no matter what the circumstance. The 3-goalie situation didn't falter their play in the 2nd half of last year(before Halak's injury). Can't we just simply say they had a bad stretch and found their game later on? And no, this doesn't absolve the Crappy coaching btw.
- bgainesDM

Halaks complaint, and was a legitimate complaint is he wasnt getting his reps at practice cause he was sharing the crease with another goalie. 29 out of 30 teams dont have a three goalie rotation........Garth's smarter than everyone! This is who was signed to be your starting goalie, and he had complained for over a year about it and it was not addressed. Let me reiterate that no other team does this....

Ive said many times that Weight is not a good PP guy........look at the math. Numbers dont lie. He's a better head coach than a PP guy. You need a PP guy for sure. The PP has been bad for far too long.
- kindlyrick

So at that point, it doesn't matter what players are on it. If the scheme sucks, players won't produce under it, INCLUDING PULOCK.