Understood. I get the mantra "you delegate the job, but you don't delegate the responsibility", but I also get that sometimes those in management get let down by their staff and support team and as a result, blame for failure can be shared.
- Jethro09

Of course and a good GM or Owner would act a lot faster then Snow has

Are you really going to go down this semantic route? Were they "professional" coaches? Come on. They were paid salaries to do their jobs and all of them have worked "professionally" in hockey for years before their jobs with the Isles. Each of Cappy, Weight and Cronin had many years of professionally working in hockey. Their ability and caliber can certainly be questioned, but they were professionals paid to do a job and they failed.
- Jethro09

I wasnt trying to be semantical........my point was that like most guys employed by the isles they had no real experience. They had no track record. Sure Weight was a great hockey player, but that didnt make his PP coaching great. Like players, you cant just have a team of rookies. You gotta have guys who've got a history doing that job. From Snow to Capuano et al......it was fine with a team with nothing in complete rebuild mode. But, now is not the time for on the job learning.......not if they wanna take the next step. Which i'd imagine the new ownership wants to do after spending half a billy goat on this team.

I don't know but I'm willing to find out! Call me up Snow!
- Jethro09

Jesus, dude. What time did you start drinking. That is, assuming you stopped at some point last night.
- Isleshockeyman

seriously im cracking up at some of this stuff today. holy poop

The job of a manager is to stop the bleeding before it gets out of control. Whether that's firing the coach, making a trade or calling up a young player. You have to do something. If you manage a business and it's losing money, do the owners come in and start talking to HR or the counter help? No, they go to the manager and find out why he/she let it get this bad. This is all on Snow. I get what you're saying, but Snow should've done something a looooong time ago to try to correct it. And he didn't.
- Isleshockeyman

Absolutely. I totally agree and Snow should pay with his job. But I'm reluctant not to at least acknowledge that the player's and coaches' shortcomings played a role in this season's failure by simply saying "Snow was GM. This is all his fault. Fire him".

Understood. I get the mantra "you delegate the job, but you don't delegate the responsibility", but I also get that sometimes those in management get let down by their staff and support team and as a result, blame for failure can be shared.
- Jethro09

Then you correct the staff. Whether that's replacing someone, training, punishment, what have you. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes. But when you make the same mistake over and over and over, there has to be something done about it.

Which bag? My sack if your referring to that I was born with.
- nyisles7

Um, you wanna explain to me why hockeyman knew about this yard sale and I didn't?

Understood. I get the mantra "you delegate the job, but you don't delegate the responsibility", but I also get that sometimes those in management get let down by their staff and support team and as a result, blame for failure can be shared.
- Jethro09

What about 10 years of failure........and furthermore, should it take 10 years to address it?

Um, you wanna explain to me why hockeyman knew about this yard sale and I didn't?
- bgainesDM

cause hockeyman will do anything that involves balls

cause hockeyman will do anything that involves balls
- Upstate_isles

Absolutely. I totally agree and Snow should pay with his job. But I'm reluctant not to at least acknowledge that the player's and coaches' shortcomings played a role in this season's failure by simply saying "Snow was GM. This is all his fault. Fire him".
- Jethro09

That's why I said I get what you're saying. Yes the players have to be held accountable, as do the coaches. However, when they keep going down the same path, you change something, correct it.

cause hockeyman will do anything that involves balls
- Upstate_isles

What about 10 years of failure........and furthermore, should it take 10 years?
- kindlyrick

Lombardi being fired after this losing season after he brought them cups really speaks to the isles ineptitude as an organization. i dont care what bad contracts he gave or picks id take it all for a cup

cause hockeyman will do anything that involves balls
- Upstate_isles

Even your wife.


Sorry dude. I couldn't resist.

What about 10 years of failure........and furthermore, should it take 10 years to address it?
- kindlyrick

I've been calling for Snow to be replaced for years. His time has come. It should have run out years ago. My point all along has been that the players and coaches were terrible and responsible for this season as well.

That's why I said I get what you're saying. Yes the players have to be held accountable, as do the coaches. However, when they keep going down the same path, you change something, correct it.
- Isleshockeyman

Garth is the one who kept the same coaches and players and never makes trades. You own it Garth.

I've been calling for Snow to be replaced for years. His time has come. It should have run out years ago. My point all along has been that the players and coaches were terrible and responsible for this season as well.
- Jethro09

Then they have been for 10 years as well.

Even your wife.


Sorry dude. I couldn't resist.
- Isleshockeyman

we arent married almost common law but shes just the baby momma, if she would have listened she would have known "get off" meant dismount, not climax.

cause hockeyman will do anything that involves balls
- Upstate_isles

we arent married almost common law but shes just the baby momma, if she would have listened she would have known "get off" meant dismount, not climax.
- Upstate_isles

- nyisles7

Ok, we're way off topic. And 7, yes we know, you love balls.

Ok, we're way off topic. And 7, yes we know, you love balls.
- Isleshockeyman

We need Lombardi to the Isles news ASAP.

Garth is the one who kept the same coaches and players and never makes trades. You own it Garth.
- ses111

Snow is nothing more than a hoarder. I said hoarder not who..... never mind.

Ok, we're way off topic. And 7, yes we know, you love balls.
- Isleshockeyman

he didnt present that very well did he

We need Lombardi to the Isles news ASAP.
- ses111

I concur.