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LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Ice girls, please, NY Joined: 07.16.2011
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Beezer33
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: WNY, NY Joined: 07.01.2011
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Lets get Dudley (hopefully) and go from there... |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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OnPoint
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 04.07.2007
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Letting Kane and O'Reilly go would be a huge mistake in the short term if they have any hope of making playoff runs soon. The jury is still out on Kane but I'm a believer that O'Reilly has made strides toward becoming a leader on and off the ice. If you ship them out you might as well do a full roster teardown, save Jack and Sam. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Letting Kane and O'Reilly go would be a huge mistake in the short term if they have any hope of making playoff runs soon. The jury is still out on Kane but I'm a believer that O'Reilly has made strides toward becoming a leader on and off the ice. If you ship them out you might as well do a full roster teardown, save Jack and Sam. - OnPoint
ROR yes
Kane can be replaced |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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As someone who suffered miserably through the Ballard years, this has a bit of a deja vu feeling to it.
As a Bills fan, I really hope this guy realizes that a proactive sports team owner rarely works. |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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"Put that in the 'Jack demanded his coach be fired' category."
Good Lord, he really needs to get some media training. |
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Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON Joined: 09.20.2010
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always a good sign when the owner starts to meddle. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BC Joined: 03.02.2015
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"but Pegula just busted out a big-ass tube of Compound W."
Perhaps one of your finest lines ever Pach!
Pegula needs to look at how MLSE structured the Leafs and brought in real (outside) pros to help fix that organization. And then get out of the way.
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always a good sign when the owner starts to meddle. - Fakepartofme
Kinda smells like what Aquilini is doing in Vancouver. |
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Just watched Pegula's conference. You guys really tend to jump to the negative
I hate the notion that he's just some bumbling idiot that has no idea what he's doing. Everything he said was fine. |
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Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We're all Duane, NE Joined: 06.17.2015
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Haven't gotten to watch the presser yet... Still hating the fact that we had to blow it up just a couple of months before a HUGE offseason... |
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Frizzlefry
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Don't get so high and mighty about your superiority over Lockport, NY Joined: 10.10.2015
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"but Pegula just busted out a big-ass tube of Compound W."
Perhaps one of your finest lines ever Pach!
Pegula needs to look at how MLSE structured the Leafs and brought in real (outside) pros to help fix that organization. And then get out of the way. - SabreWest
I'm not convinced that he can and I'm becoming more convinced that he should stick to oil, restaurants, and hotels. |
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mattmoulson
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: WNY, NY Joined: 06.14.2015
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Haven't gotten to watch the presser yet... Still hating the fact that we had to blow it up just a couple of months before a HUGE offseason... - Sabre_Tooth
Last offseason was pretty huge too and look at us now |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Just watched Pegula's conference. You guys really tend to jump to the negative
I hate the notion that he's just some bumbling idiot that has no idea what he's doing. Everything he said was fine. - chilliard77
Brother took my player
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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this from Adam French, perfect IMO:
Adam French
I like this move, though the timing in terms of firing Murray seems odd. I guess this gives them enough time to come up with a strategy for the Expansion and Entry Drafts, but it'll be tight.
Dan Bylsma clearly has lost the room and the writing was on the wall with the Reinhart situation. Whether you thought it was a good idea, whether you thought it was necessary, whether you thought it was the dumbest thing imaginable, it was the most emblematic moment of a failed season.
Under Bylsma, no players other than Ristolainen and Eichel have made any noticeable development.
That's not to say that the injury/illness bug didn't hurt Buffalo with Eichel, Okposo and Kulikov being hit hardest. But the team simply didn't perform to the perceived depth that they had.
This is where I think Murray bit the dust, alongside probably falling on his sword beside Bylsma. The Sabres made bold moves during their "rebuild" by acquiring players entering their primes to help compete now at the expense of the majority of their "prospects." They did this due to the perceived depth of talent coming through the system.
While the trades are by no means heavy losses, the fact is that the Buffalo prospects that were to make the ones leaving easily expendable are not performing to expectations. The Rochester Americans were one of the worst AHL squads this year failing to make the playoffs yet again. The most worrying bit about it is the lack of defensive depth on that squad, which is one of the major issues on the actual Sabres as well. One has to realize that Murray was the GM for both the Sabres and Americans, so he has the double whammy of never having any of the teams he has run make the playoffs since he came in. Including the Americans falling from a bubble team in the AHL to one of the consistently worst in the league.
Some want to blame this on Jack Eichel, I'd rather blame it on a miscalculated rush in a rebuild that backfired. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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I'm not convinced that he can and I'm becoming more convinced that he should stick to oil, restaurants, and hotels. - Frizzlefry
All he needs to do is hire a VP and just sign checks and we good |
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Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 12.27.2016
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Pegula-"I was not involved in the GM or coaching hire, as I would have liked". That doesn't seem like a meddling owner, but one who has realized his mistakes and is trying to fix them going forward. |
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Brother took my player - GERBE!!!75PTS
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Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We're all Duane, NE Joined: 06.17.2015
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Last offseason was pretty huge too and look at us now - mattmoulson
Touche. I just can't handle another rebuilding effort. |
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Brother took my player - GERBE!!!75PTS
I was going to drop Jones for Schlemko but then they lost last night and I'm not so sure |
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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here Joined: 02.10.2011
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Touche. I just can't handle another rebuilding effort. - Sabre_Tooth
And neither can Jack.
This is going to be tricky. There needs to be some savvy signings and some savvy trades, but more importantly, much more accountability put on the players that remain.
Without knowing the behind the scenes info, just basing it on success, I'm all for Maciver or Botterill. |
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