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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 30 @ 9:32 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Was it indisputable? Refs and "war room" in Toronto creating controversy
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 9:47 AM ET
First? I agree with you on that,it was a bad call ,and I know their's alot of hate here for toronto! But the headline seems like a bit of a shot? TORONTO! but a nice read!
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 30 @ 9:47 AM ET
Quite disappointing. To favor the Pens through the offside challenge (I still think you can't tell, so goal stands) and then the penaltys right after.

I thought the challenges and cameras were going to take away the argument side of these calls. I say if it is that close, then it is always fine. He had no distinct advantage so who cares, just play the game.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 30 @ 9:48 AM ET
First? I agree with you on that,it was a bad call ,and I know their's alot of hate here for toronto! But the headline seems like a bit of a shot? TORONTO! but a nice read!
- MR.Hunter


The point might be that the war room should not be in a city that has a team. Seems unfair or potentially bias. But to think he was taking a shot at the Leafs? You are reaching there.
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 9:54 AM ET
Ya maybe just the in toronto, instead of the nhl office? It wouldn't matter to me personally if it was in new York, in which I'm actually surprised it isn't, or buffalo for that matter! Either way I've never seen so many fans pissed by all teams in all rounds with the officiating
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 30 @ 9:55 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Was it indisputable? Refs and "war room" in Toronto creating controversy
- Michael Pachla


I absolutely hate the Offside replay. I like the fact that here is a a little human element in the game. Did the refs really miss that call? No... Was his skate up in the air maybe, maybe not, but does it really matter? His skate clearly ON-sides, who cares if it was up in the air? What a dumb a$$ rule...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 30 @ 9:56 AM ET
My issue with these challenges lies with the fact that they're still not getting them right and it's slowing the game down.

Part of why I like hockey above all the other sports is because of the speed of a game overall. In general, there's a lot less downtime than there is in Baseball and Football. I can't really speak for Basketball as I just can't get myself into it at all. These challenges have done nothing but slow the game down and then there are times where they still don't seem to get the call right. It's pretty disappointing.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 9:57 AM ET
Michael Pachla: Was it indisputable? Refs and "war room" in Toronto creating controversy
- Michael Pachla

some nhl workers in toronto received free bmw's compliments of super mario
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 30 @ 9:58 AM ET
I absolutely hate the Offside replay. I like the fact that here is a a little human element in the game. Did the refs really miss that call? No... Was his skate up in the air maybe, maybe not, but does it really matter? His skate clearly ON-sides, who cares if it was up in the air? What a dumb a$$ rule...
- hehateme


The funny part about this part of the equation is that at the GM meetings not too long ago they discussed the possibility of changing the rule in a way that whether the skate was on/off the ice didn't matter. They chose to leave it as is and then of course the first goal in the SCF brings up this very thing (not that the rule change would have been in place yet, but that's not really the point here).
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
Ya maybe just the in toronto, instead of the nhl office? It wouldn't matter to me personally if it was in new York, in which I'm actually surprised it isn't, or buffalo for that matter! Either way I've never seen so many fans pissed by all teams in all rounds with the officiating
- MR.Hunter


It has been a bad year for calls (maybe just cause of recent memory, but could most years be bad?).

As far as where the review takes place, I guess I don't have an issue with it being in Toronto, but don't take that as (additional) hate for the Leafs.

I say if you have a "war room" then forget the refs, they made the call on the ice, the war room gets final say.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

May 30 @ 9:59 AM ET
some nhl workers in toronto received free bmw's compliments of super mario
- homiedclown


I wouldn't hate Pittsburgh so much if Crosby wasn't such a crybaby. He literally is the Tom Brady of the NHL.

He's a great player, I won't deny that. But he needs to learn to shut his yap.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

May 30 @ 10:00 AM ET
Isn't it the refs and not the war room that make the decisions? War room just shows the replays no?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
Isn't it the refs and not the war room that make the decisions? War room just shows the replays no?
- walshyleafsfan

Huh good question! Somebody here know if that's correct?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:08 AM ET
I wouldn't hate Pittsburgh so much if Crosby wasn't such a crybaby. He literally is the Tom Brady of the NHL.

He's a great player, I won't deny that. But he needs to learn to shut his yap.

- HonkFortheGoose

IndianaSabresFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Matt FRICKIN ELLIS, IN
Joined: 01.17.2007

May 30 @ 10:10 AM ET
I wouldn't hate Pittsburgh so much if Crosby wasn't such a crybaby. He literally is the Tom Brady of the NHL.

He's a great player, I won't deny that. But he needs to learn to shut his yap.

- HonkFortheGoose

goal call back followed by a 5 on 3 where the preds were playing well till what i would call a crosby interference that wasn't called..

the preds dominated a large portion of the game the refs dominated the rest
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 30 @ 10:12 AM ET
I wouldn't hate Pittsburgh so much if Crosby wasn't such a crybaby. He literally is the Tom Brady of the NHL.

He's a great player, I won't deny that. But he needs to learn to shut his yap.

- HonkFortheGoose

preds were a wreck after that poor call for the entire period


to their credit, they played a great final 40 minutes, aside from one glitch but it was too much to overcome


MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:13 AM ET
Yes it's determined in the nhl waroom in TORONTO!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
First? I agree with you on that,it was a bad call ,and I know their's alot of hate here for toronto! But the headline seems like a bit of a shot? TORONTO! but a nice read!
- MR.Hunter

thx
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:15 AM ET
preds were a wreck after that poor call for the entire period


to their credit, they played a great final 40 minutes, aside from one glitch but it was too much to overcome

- homiedclown

Ya agreed sucks for them but it's been a constant pattern though out these playoffs it seems
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 30 @ 10:16 AM ET
some nhl workers in toronto received free bmw's compliments of super mario
- homiedclown

source?
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
thx
- Michael Pachla

TROLL! ....kidding hey Mike have you heard about the Sabres interested in Darren Raddysh dman for the spitfires?
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 30 @ 10:18 AM ET
preds were a wreck after that poor call for the entire period


to their credit, they played a great final 40 minutes, aside from one glitch but it was too much to overcome

- homiedclown

didn't delve into it too deeply but rinne should have had that malkin shot and definitely should have had the game-winner by guentzel...he needed to shut the door on the pens after they fell behind 3-0...he didn't
MR.Hunter
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.22.2016

May 30 @ 10:19 AM ET
source?
- Michael Pachla

Actually it think it's true
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

May 30 @ 10:20 AM ET
TROLL! ....kidding hey Mike have you heard about the Sabres interested in Darren Raddysh dman for the spitfires?
- MR.Hunter


Where did you hear / read this?

mark19
Location: The good side of the state, NY
Joined: 08.01.2010

May 30 @ 10:21 AM ET
Could not agree with you more
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