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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 5 @ 3:21 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/news/predators-have-trusted-analytics-during-run-to-stanley-cup-final/c-289775700



The plot thickens.

- Mononoke



I seem to recall this being brought up before and being scoffed at endlessly.....
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:22 PM ET
I think it's unlikely the Flyers do anything like taking on a defenseman. They need the roster space in order to give guys a chance next year.

Possibly could have positioned themselves to take on a forward, but with Filppula's spot and salary solidified for next season, I see that as unlikely as well.

I really think this is going to be a quiet offseason. I'm not even sure they should sign anyone other than a goalie and their own guys.

- PhillySportsGuy


Yes, I anticipate a boring offseason. Not that it's bad a thing.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:29 PM ET
I do think Hextall will trade a pick for a goaltender on #draftday

You can take that Streit2TheBankā„¢
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:30 PM ET
I do think Hextall will trade a pick for a goaltender on #draftday

You can take that Streit2TheBankā„¢

- Streit2ThePoint


#Streit2TheBank
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:32 PM ET
I seem to recall this being brought up before and being scoffed at endlessly.....
- MBFlyerfan


It's only a matter of time before every team begins to really incorporate them
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 3:37 PM ET
It's only a matter of time before every team begins to really incorporate them
- PhillySportsGuy


I haven't solved it yet, but I know the number secrets are located somewhere in here....

mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 3:47 PM ET
I think it's unlikely the Flyers do anything like taking on a defenseman. They need the roster space in order to give guys a chance next year.

Possibly could have positioned themselves to take on a forward, but with Filppula's spot and salary solidified for next season, I see that as unlikely as well.

I really think this is going to be a quiet offseason. I'm not even sure they should sign anyone other than a goalie and their own guys.

- PhillySportsGuy

But there are going to be so many pluggers out there that can fill a need.

The Flyers front office must be figgiting.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:49 PM ET
I haven't solved it yet, but I know the number secrets are located somewhere in here....


- Mononoke


It is interesting that when Lavi left Philadelphia, he began to utilize stats, but didn't when he was with the Flyers...
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:50 PM ET
But there are going to be so many pluggers out there that can fill a need.

The Flyers front office must be figgiting.

- mayorofangrytown


We need Steve Ott
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:55 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Draft, Moving Around, and More
- bmeltzer


More than happy to see gone still under contract...

Andrew MacDonald
Dale Weise
Brandon Manning
Nick Cousins
Matt Read
Valtteri Filppula
Michael Neuvirth
Scott Laughton

More than happy to see in next season through the pipeline.

Samuel Morin
Anthony Stolarz
Robert Hagg
Nico Hischier/Nolan Patrick
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 3:57 PM ET
We need Steve Ott
- PhillySportsGuy


He's a coach now. Just our luck. Ryan Reaves though.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
Since Michael Raffl is good defensively, can he just be considered a defenseman?

I'm actually curious. Did the NHL put out any sort of mandate on how players must be classified? I can see a case being made for goalies, but why can't a forward play as a defenseman or vice versa?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:02 PM ET
He's a coach now. Just our luck. Ryan Reaves though.
- Mononoke


Not enough grit
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jun 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
Not enough grit
- PhillySportsGuy


Ryan Reaves has grit coming out of his wherever.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jun 5 @ 4:04 PM ET
Since Michael Raffl is good defensively, can he just be considered a defenseman?

I'm actually curious. Did the NHL put out any sort of mandate on how players must be classified? I can see a case being made for goalies, but why can't a forward play as a defenseman or vice versa?

- jmatchett383


It's probably part of the games played to be exposed rules...
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:08 PM ET
I didn't see anyone I knew, so I left
- PhillySportsGuy


We're using our alts
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:09 PM ET
We need Steve Ott
- PhillySportsGuy

For no good damn reason. My 2017 all FA team:

Sharp - Weal - Jagr
Willaims - Gagner - Versteeg
Zolnierczyk - Vandevelde - Upshall
Rinaldo - R. White - Sestito

Del Zotto - Streit
Pronger - M. Frazer
Alt - Guenin

Mason - Leighton
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:10 PM ET
It's probably part of the games played to be exposed rules...
- dragonoffrost


Not that I've seen

https://www.nhl.com/news/...n-draft-rules/c-281010592

As far as I know, when a coach submits a roster, he does not have to designate any position except for goaltenders. For instance, guys like Sami Kapanen and Sergei Fedoirov rotated back to D when needed. Dustin Byfuglien and Brent Burns have "offically" played both spots.

Just seems like a loophole that Homer would try to jump through.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:11 PM ET
For no good damn reason. My 2017 all FA team:

Sharp - Weal - Jagr
Willaims - Gagner - Versteeg
Zolnierczyk - Vandevelde - Upshall
Rinaldo - R. White - Sestito

Del Zotto - Streit
Pronger - M. Frazer
Alt - Guenin

Mason - Leighton

- mayorofangrytown


I like that a retired player still makes the second pair.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:16 PM ET
Ryan Reaves has grit coming out of his wherever.
- Mononoke

PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:17 PM ET
For no good damn reason. My 2017 all FA team:

Sharp - Weal - Jagr
Willaims - Gagner - Versteeg
Zolnierczyk - Vandevelde - Upshall
Rinaldo - R. White - Sestito

Del Zotto - Streit
Pronger - M. Frazer
Alt - Guenin

Mason - Leighton

- mayorofangrytown


Flyers with the opportunity to sign a top line center!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
Flyers with the opportunity to sign a top line center!
- PhillySportsGuy


VandeVelde?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
More than happy to see gone still under contract...

Andrew MacDonald
Dale Weise
Brandon Manning
Nick Cousins
Matt Read
Valtteri Filppula
Michael Neuvirth
Scott Laughton

More than happy to see in next season through the pipeline.

Samuel Morin
Anthony Stolarz
Robert Hagg
Nico Hischier/Nolan Patrick

- SuperSchennBros


Laughton had a better year in the AHL than Hagg did.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 4:30 PM ET
I like that a retired player still makes the second pair.
- jmatchett383

I could have put Andrew MacDonald in there but we'd like to win a couple games.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 4:31 PM ET
Seems about as thick as I assumed it to be.
- Scoob



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