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Rick Sadowski
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 24 @ 5:27 PM ET
Rick Sadowski: No Duchene deal ... yet; draft haul looks impressive
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 24 @ 5:33 PM ET
Suck it Makar!!!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:34 PM ET
Nice blog but why is everyone saying their GM had a good draft. Shiny new pieces? I really think Sakic missed out making trades. Maker is a high risk high reward pick. Only one liked that Avs made. But why make that pick as if Avs need another small right shot PP QB type in 3+ years? Really confused what the plan is with Avs. Just complete Swiss cheese on decisions here.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:37 PM ET
Nice blog but why is everyone saying their GM had a good draft. Shiny new pieces? I really think Sakic missed out making trades. Maker is a high risk high reward pick. Only one liked that Avs made. But why make that pick as if Avs need another small right shot PP QB type in 3+ years? Really confused what the plan is with Avs. Just complete Swiss cheese on decisions here.
- Nuck4U


Suck it, suck it like Jero.

Did sakic miss the boat on the trades, not really. The duchene thing sucks, but I don't fault the Avs for not moving him if they aren't getting good offers. If teams are scoffing at the price of a 1st rounder and a Young D...still hold out.

Schenn was moved for 2 1st rounders and a cap dump
Stepan was moved for a Top 10 pick and a young DMan

If GMs are offering less than those packages for Duchene, why the hell would the move him
RangerFan1110
New York Rangers
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 01.30.2012

Jun 24 @ 5:38 PM ET
Sakic was a great hockey player but a horrible GM!!!!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 24 @ 5:39 PM ET
Sakic was a great hockey player but a horrible GM!!!!
- RangerFan1110


youre a horrible poster for using 3 exclamation marks, Suck it
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 24 @ 5:47 PM ET
Suck it, suck it like Jero.

Did sakic miss the boat on the trades, not really. The duchene thing sucks, but I don't fault the Avs for not moving him if they aren't getting good offers. If teams are scoffing at the price of a 1st rounder and a Young D...still hold out.

Schenn was moved for 2 1st rounders and a cap dump
Stepan was moved for a Top 10 pick and a young DMan

If GMs are offering less than those packages for Duchene, why the hell would the move him

- DDM-Coga


You are saying suck it on a lame not really for trades
Well okay guess the truth hurts just as much as the strategy and draft.
skywalker1987
Colorado Avalanche
Location: MB
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 24 @ 6:01 PM ET
You are saying suck it on a lame not really for trades
Well okay guess the truth hurts just as much as the strategy and draft.

- Nuck4U


Strategy was simple. Best player available. Adding Makar and timmins to a growing d-core of meloche, Z, bigras and lindholm is solid. Henry another solid winger. Amazing for where we got him
_AVZ_
Colorado Avalanche
Location: CO
Joined: 06.05.2012

Jun 24 @ 6:20 PM ET
Who do you think we go for on the backup goalie side? Martin could work if varly stays healthy IF. I feel we need a little more experience, if sakic does make some moves and this team, as highly unlikely as it is, becomes halfway decent out of nowhere,
Szela93
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Strathroy, ON
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jun 24 @ 7:00 PM ET
You are saying suck it on a lame not really for trades
Well okay guess the truth hurts just as much as the strategy and draft.

- Nuck4U


What relevent moves have your Canucks done in the last few seasons? I think you guys are a prime example of a franchise with no direction. Are you all in? Are you rebuilding?
19knight21
Colorado Avalanche
Location: KALAMAZOO, MI
Joined: 03.25.2017

Jun 24 @ 7:49 PM ET
Love how most everyone praised this Makar and comparing him for the most part to Karlsson . The Avs were lucky he fell 1 spot to 4 and now all of the sudden this Guy sucks at D?? Maybe because he controlled the play most of his ice time, but we shall see in time .
I am a bit perturbed by the Duchene dilemma. Was hoping they could somehow land Carlo from the Bs or maybe one of the Canes stud D man. I think Sakic needs to take 2 prime pieces as long as they are good ones not crappy prospect etc. Most will agree a fresh start is needed for both sides at this juncture. Not a peep on #92 so assume he will be the captain next season unless some big offer is made in the next few months.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jun 24 @ 9:02 PM ET
Loved watching Smirnov at Penn state. Still an up and coming program. I am rooting for him...to be traded lol. Nah I kid. Would be real cool to see him make the NHL
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Concepts of a Shanaplan
Joined: 03.03.2016

Jun 24 @ 9:39 PM ET
You are saying suck it on a lame not really for trades
Well okay guess the truth hurts just as much as the strategy and draft.

- Nuck4U



At least they didn't draft Pettersson.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jun 24 @ 10:25 PM ET
Suck it, suck it like Jero.

Did sakic miss the boat on the trades, not really. The duchene thing sucks, but I don't fault the Avs for not moving him if they aren't getting good offers. If teams are scoffing at the price of a 1st rounder and a Young D...still hold out.

Schenn was moved for 2 1st rounders and a cap dump
Stepan was moved for a Top 10 pick and a young DMan

If GMs are offering less than those packages for Duchene, why the hell would the move him
-DDM-Coga


1) Stepan wan not traded for a top 10 pick and a Dman. Stepan AND Raanta were. They got a top line center(Borderline) and a young starting goaltender and the draft pick is in a weak draft which is why GMs are throwing these picks away. Coyotes got more value in that trade than the 7th pick would have.

2) Schenn's price wasnt actually that high, you also have to consider the Flyers took one of their bad contracts back who has 2 years left. Flyers got a 1st round pick in a weak draft + 1st next year as we know STL will be a contender again this season for a 50-60 pint player who is only 25 years old and taking the contract of an overpaid 29 year old player who's highest point total is 44 points and has declined every year since.

What Sakic is asking for Duchene is overpriced. He wants a 1st, a roster player and a top prospect. You are not going to get that for Duchene. That price is ridiculous and every GM knows it.
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:49 PM ET
I really thought Hamonic would be on the Avs
Dedshark
New York Islanders
Location: Amityville, NY
Joined: 04.01.2008

Jun 24 @ 10:52 PM ET
There's gotta be something that can be worked out. Between DeHaan, Devon Toews, multiple 1st rounders next year, and maybe Beauvillier? I'm not saying all of that, but some sort package built around a few of those.
SotaPopinski
Minnesota Wild
Location: Minny
Joined: 02.21.2011

Jun 25 @ 10:32 AM ET
youre a horrible poster for using 3 exclamation marks, Suck it
- DDM-Coga


Your math skills suck it
Sec111
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.14.2006

Jun 25 @ 11:38 AM ET
And we get upset with Snow
agreig
Colorado Avalanche
Location: SK
Joined: 01.14.2015

Jun 25 @ 7:33 PM ET
Pierre Lebrun mentioned the best way to get the duchene deal done with nashville may be getting a 3rd team involved. What do you guys think the most likely scenario would be? I think a package of picks/prospects from nashville to anaheim for one of their good young d then that d man flipped from nashville to colorado for duchene. Especially since anaheim is trying to get under the cap and have also just lost shea theodore in expansion.
westonie
Season Ticket Holder
Colorado Avalanche
Location: IL
Joined: 02.02.2007

Jun 25 @ 10:03 PM ET
Suck it, suck it like Jero.

Did sakic miss the boat on the trades, not really. The duchene thing sucks, but I don't fault the Avs for not moving him if they aren't getting good offers. If teams are scoffing at the price of a 1st rounder and a Young D...still hold out.

Schenn was moved for 2 1st rounders and a cap dump
Stepan was moved for a Top 10 pick and a young DMan

If GMs are offering less than those packages for Duchene, why the hell would the move him

- DDM-Coga


I don't get how people are saying Sakic is asking for way too much for Duchene. Then the same people say he was fleeced in the O'Reilly deal.
adge015
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Penticton, BC
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 25 @ 11:22 PM ET
I hope Duchene isn't traded. I want to give Bednar a full year with all the pieces and see what happens. Last year sucked and I blame that on Roy quitting and Bednar having to deal with all of his problems with no time to prepare. I would trade Landy before I trade Duchene.
agreig
Colorado Avalanche
Location: SK
Joined: 01.14.2015

Jun 26 @ 12:10 AM ET
I hope Duchene isn't traded. I want to give Bednar a full year with all the pieces and see what happens. Last year sucked and I blame that on Roy quitting and Bednar having to deal with all of his problems with no time to prepare. I would trade Landy before I trade Duchene.
- adge015


I don't think keeping duchene is a real option anymore at this point. This has been handled so poorly that I wouldn't be surprised if a trade request from him comes sooner than later especially with news of his agent talking to david poile.
bgainesDM
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.09.2015

Jun 26 @ 2:47 AM ET
I really thought Hamonic would be on the Avs
- Dedshark


DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:30 AM ET
I hope Duchene isn't traded. I want to give Bednar a full year with all the pieces and see what happens. Last year sucked and I blame that on Roy quitting and Bednar having to deal with all of his problems with no time to prepare. I would trade Landy before I trade Duchene.
- adge015


I wouldnt trade Landy over Duchene...I would rather see Dutch, Barrie, EJ, Varly go before Landy.
Avsrchamps01
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
I don't think keeping duchene is a real option anymore at this point. This has been handled so poorly that I wouldn't be surprised if a trade request from him comes sooner than later especially with news of his agent talking to david poile.
- agreig


Unless the Preds are ponying up Ellis, Ekholm or Josi I wouldn't do it. Poile said they're not going to go that route anyways. I don't think they're a good partner. I think it's down to Carolina and the Islanders.
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