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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
Since it's looking less likely we can trade for a legit top4 defenseman,
Mrazek (for a 3rd?) & Neal (for a 2nd?) would be tops on my wish list

- jdfitz77

they have assets to trade for a d man

foligno, bailey,larsson, girgens, fasching, nylander, reinhart, lehner, baptiste
2018 draft picks, etc


a move can still be made

hopefully he is calling the ducks, wild, and canes


honestly, if you can bring back myers on the cheap, I would consider it with an up tempo team
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:32 PM ET
Assuming he's ok of course
I'm not sure about his health
I guess I thought he was ok bc Anaheim was able to buy him out

My point was,
I don't see any UFAs out there I want to sign to long term deals

I'd rather sign a guy or 2 who might have some upside,
that could potentially give us good bang for our buck

- jdfitz77


Lots of nice depth options. Why bring in a lazy Russian that wasn't worth qualifying if you can bring in a prospect who will probably be more useful.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:33 PM ET
It sounds like he's going what Chris Pronger went through with his concussions

I knew something was up when they just signed him for five years and they buy him out the first year

- GERBE!!!75PTS



If he was hurt,
why not just put him on LTIR?
Better to have insurance pay his salary than pay to buy him out...
right?

And can u buy out guys that are hurt?
Idk that u can
I thought they'd have to pass a physical first
But I could be wrong there?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:34 PM ET
Lots of nice depth options. Why bring in a lazy Russian that wasn't worth qualifying if you can bring in a prospect who will probably be more useful.
- TheSabresTaco

same for bringing in hamonic on an overpay, who pouts vs bringing in a younger player that put up more points on a team with a winning record for a 3rd rd pick

Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
they have assets to trade for a d man

foligno, bailey,larsson, girgens, fasching, nylander, reinhart, lehner, baptiste
2018 draft picks, etc


a move can still be made

hopefully he is calling the ducks, wild, and canes


honestly, if you can bring back myers on the cheap, I would consider it with an up tempo team

- homiedclown

Personally, I'm good with the defense as is. Maybe Housley makes them better. I would rather direct assets to acquiring a goal scorer. Corey Perry?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:35 PM ET
Were u the one who first brought up Despres a week or so ago?
I like that idea if he's healthy

I'd rather find a guy like that, who we can give a 2 year deal to
Instead of Smith, Stone, Alzner, etc who will likely demand 4-5yrs

- jdfitz77

Yep, low risk high reward and it would push gorges out which is a win for everyone
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:36 PM ET
same for bringing in hamonic on an overpay, who pouts vs bringing in a younger player that put up more points on a team with a winning record for a 3rd rd pick
- homiedclown


He pouts?

Last I heard he wanted to be moved out west because someone in his family is sick or something.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Personally, I'm good with the defense as is. Maybe Housley makes them better. I would rather direct assets to acquiring a goal scorer. Corey Perry?
- Hatboro_Swords


I was thinking we could just trade Ennis, Moulson and a 2nd for Pacioretty
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:37 PM ET
Lots of nice depth options. Why bring in a lazy Russian that wasn't worth qualifying if you can bring in a prospect who will probably be more useful.
- TheSabresTaco



He's was a top pick who has shown he can score goals in the league
We wouldn't have to trade for him, sign to a long term deal, or pay much

If he's lazy & doesn't work out...
down to Rochester

He's never gonna be good defensively,
so he's gotta be in the top6
When he is... he scores
When he's asked to be responsible in the bottom 6,
he fails

I won't be heartbroken if we don't take a shot
But what's the down side?
Doug&theSlugs
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFN, BC
Joined: 06.09.2017

Jun 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
The kid has put up crazy numbers throughout his entire career. Its a head scratcher as to why he never translated in the NHL. Would def be a good Rochester add though.
- MCGUIZZY[/quote

Talking to Canucks as per Dreger
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
If he was hurt,
why not just put him on LTIR?
Better to have insurance pay his salary than pay to buy him out...
right?

And can u buy out guys that are hurt?
Idk that u can
I thought they'd have to pass a physical first
But I could be wrong there?

- jdfitz77


Idk the NHL does so many things against the rule books I don't know what's right anymore lol
http://www.whig.com/article/20170616/AP/306169658
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:38 PM ET
Yep, low risk high reward and it would push gorges out which is a win for everyone
- Sabresfan-365


I'm heading to DT Toronto in a few weeks to get weird with a few other folks. Any recommendations? Food to try? Bars? Hookers?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
Personally, I'm good with the defense as is. Maybe Housley makes them better. I would rather direct assets to acquiring a goal scorer. Corey Perry?
- Hatboro_Swords



You're "good" with our defense?
Only if EVERYTHING goes 100% right
Otherwise it's still our weakness

And NO WAY to Perry
He makes something like 8.5mil for 6 more years
They'd have to give me their next six 1sts to take that contract
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:40 PM ET
He's was a top pick who has shown he can score goals in the league
We wouldn't have to trade for him, sign to a long term deal, or pay much

If he's lazy & doesn't work out...
down to Rochester

He's never gonna be good defensively,
so he's gotta be in the top6
When he is... he scores
When he's asked to be responsible in the bottom 6,
he fails

I won't be heartbroken if we don't take a shot
But what's the down side?

- jdfitz77


The down side is having that thing on our team.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
Idk the NHL does so many things against the rule books I don't know what's right anymore lol
http://www.whig.com/article/20170616/AP/306169658

- GERBE!!!75PTS



Like I said, I could definitely be wrong
I was just asssuming he was healthy

Obviously it's a no go on Despres if he's still hurt
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:41 PM ET
I was thinking we could just trade Ennis, Moulson and a 2nd for Pacioretty
- TheSabresTaco

I'd give them their pick of foligno or girgens

their pick of borgen, baptiste, fasching


and our 2018 first for him


or mccabe and a second straight up for him
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
The down side is having that thing on our team.
- TheSabresTaco



Which u eliminate by sending him to AHL if he's not good

So again... what's the downside?
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
Like I said, I could definitely be wrong
I was just asssuming he was healthy

Obviously it's a no go on Despres if he's still hurt

- jdfitz77


No I wasn't arguing I was just showing you an article What the gm said

All good my friend
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 26 @ 2:42 PM ET
He pouts?

Last I heard he wanted to be moved out west because someone in his family is sick or something.

- TheSabresTaco

somethings need to be kept private

kills the locker room



never hear a black man demand to be traded, he shuts up and counts his money
GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks
Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA
Joined: 02.11.2009

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
Which u eliminate by sending him to AHL if he's not good

So again... what's the downside?

- jdfitz77


There is none
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd give them their pick of foligno or girgens

their pick of borgen, baptiste, fasching


and our 2018 first for him


or mccabe and a second straight up for him

- homiedclown


Girgensons, Baptiste, 2018 1st is something I'd definitely move on. I'm not giving anyone any defensive assets, ever.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd give them their pick of foligno or girgens

their pick of borgen, baptiste, fasching


and our 2018 first for him


or mccabe and a second straight up for him

- homiedclown


Maybe they take Gorges back too?

Just Kidding. No one wants our garbage. Gorges could be good for Beaulieu, but not in how to play with pace.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Jun 26 @ 2:43 PM ET
The down side is having that thing on our team.
- TheSabresTaco

Is there proof of him being a bad teammate?

Asking for a friend
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 26 @ 2:44 PM ET
I'd give them their pick of foligno or girgens

their pick of borgen, baptiste, fasching

and our 2018 first for him

or mccabe and a second straight up for him

- homiedclown




With our defense as is...
how could u trade McCabe?

Besides that, I'd like to take out Baptiste.
I'm ok with the rest
Hatboro_Swords
Buffalo Sabres
Location: WE'RE PRACTICING THE POWER PLAY!, PA
Joined: 07.30.2010

Jun 26 @ 2:46 PM ET
You're "good" with our defense?
Only if EVERYTHING goes 100% right
Otherwise it's still our weakness

And NO WAY to Perry
He makes something like 8.5mil for 6 more years
They'd have to give me their next six 1sts to take that contract

- jdfitz77

That's right. Teams with good D do their best. Teams that score goals bang the prom queen. Players have been brought in to improve the D. Nobody was brought in to improve the offense. Best defense is a good offense. This team's weakness is scoring goals.
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