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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 29 @ 5:38 PM ET
Fixed it for you, bud.
- teh_HAWKZ



Based on the Hjalmarsson and Panarin deals the Hawks will be lucky to surpass the 48 points the Avalanche got last season.
DMCsPulledHammy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Schaumburg, IL
Joined: 06.15.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:39 PM ET
Headline next October: 'Blackhawks really miss Hammer'. What a disaster that trade was.
- Savoy


I would rather read that than "With Blackhawks unable to match with salary cap contstraints, unrestricted free agent Nick Hjalmarsson signs 4 year, $24,000,000 deal with X".

Get over it. In the cap era, GM's need to make unpopular decisions. Move on.
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 29 @ 5:42 PM ET
SAP has some advanced database and reporting tools using HANA databases that are more user friendly. It's not like their ERP and enterprise software that is stunningly cumbersome.
- TheTrob


This would be the type of system that I am using, hence my bias...
ToewsdNKanefusd
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Hampshire, IL
Joined: 05.14.2015

Jun 29 @ 5:47 PM ET
Headline next October: 'Blackhawks really miss Hammer'. What a disaster that trade was.
- Savoy


What I won't miss, is his attempted backhand clears that never get out of the zone...
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 29 @ 5:53 PM ET
Excellent insight

You've def cemented yourself as the Hawks blog stats guy!

- Hank3Henshaw

Ha thanks, though just to note:


EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 29 @ 6:08 PM ET
SAP has some advanced database and reporting tools using HANA databases that are more user friendly. It's not like their ERP and enterprise software that is stunningly cumbersome.
- TheTrob


I'm not sure HANA is supposed to provide a better end-user experience. I think it's supposed to provide a better ease of use and lower cost converged infrastructure ... but that is more marketing slop than real life experience ... so ... just another shiny object in the IT world
ArlingtonRob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 230 years was a good run, IL
Joined: 01.20.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:15 PM ET
Headline next October: 'Blackhawks really miss Hammer'. What a disaster that trade was.
- Savoy


Or...

Headline in October 2018: 'Jhalmarsson's rapid decline reveals lost opportunity for Hawks'. What a disaster NOT trading him earlier was.

Time will tell...
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 29 @ 6:19 PM ET
Or...

Headline in October 2018: 'Jhalmarsson's rapid decline reveals lost opportunity for Hawks'. What a disaster NOT trading him earlier was.

Time will tell...

- ArlingtonRob


Or - we should hope - "Good trade for both sides - Arizona happy with Hjalmarsson's addition, and Chicago is good with Murphy and the heir to the French throne."
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:23 PM ET
I love Boone Jenner too, BUT...

if he was available, would they just have done the deal as a widening of the FIRST DEAL?

Here is the thing:

I have trouble believing Boone is available. he is someone they probably exited the season and thought they could build around. He is a BIG BOY, plays heavy and angry at times. NOW...if their negotiations on his RFA go south, like the kid threatening to go to arbitration, then MAYBE, they reconsider his status.

And even though AA makes 4.45 Mil Cap hit,

...in four seasons,
Jenner has scored 74 goals, including 30 two seasons back...that's
over 18 goals a year. (129 points / 42 points per year)


By contract standards, BEFORE signed his new deal, Brandom Saad's three seasons with the Blackhawks saw him score
52 goals , a 17 goal average ( 126 points / 41 points per year)

So...if YOU are Jenner's agent, are you gonna let him take the bridge bump up or are you asking for AA's 4.45 million? NAH.

I think that the kid is probably looking for compensation, not some qualifying offer; he wants 100% of the base salary if the base salary is that 2.9 million, it
puts puts him at 5.8 million

You probably want to get a deal like Saad's, or around six mil long term which the hawks cannot take on.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:26 PM ET
Ha thanks, though just to note:


- L_B_R


That makes your contribution even more impressive!

I am a former high school mathematics teacher (for 35 years) and I simply have not way I can start connecting. enjoying and applying the stats to my eyeball evaluations.

It is great you can, and do so well.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:29 PM ET
Headline next October: 'Blackhawks really miss Hammer'. What a disaster that trade was.
- Savoy


We will be fine.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 29 @ 6:33 PM ET
Headline in October:

Blackhawks petition league once more to allow the Hossa injury exemption after the league ruled it was a ploy to add Cap and have Hossa return in the playoffs
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 29 @ 6:40 PM ET
Maybe the A's didn't win with Moneyball, but the league has moved that way anyway, with Theo Epstein leading the way.
- CanOCorn


In MLB Analytics have their place. Successful teams still do the smell or eye test. Analytics in MLB can be completely misleading. For example a starting pitcher can have good WHIP and Strike-Out totals and other stats but have year after year of losing records even with good run support. If you watch this pitcher closely he will have one inning where he messes up just enough to give away wins. Not mentally tough enough to finish strong. Makes all the other stats border on the irrelevant, and perhaps totally irrelevant. Same with the NHL with stats like Corsi, which is actually a ridiculous stat without context.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:40 PM ET
I'm fine with Gangner, but if the Hawks plan on having him center for Kane they better get a Hartnell type player for LW. If we signed them both then you have

43 89 88 as your #2 line. That would do.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Jun 29 @ 6:46 PM ET
Headline next October: 'Blackhawks really miss Hammer'. What a disaster that trade was.
- Savoy

You need some Milk.....
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 29 @ 6:52 PM ET
Kukla's Korner‏ @nhl 7m7 minutes ago

Evening Line- Jaromir Jagr: His tweet... Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On
Z3Hawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.04.2017

Jun 29 @ 6:54 PM ET
Savoy - give it a rest. Neither Hammer or Panarin were the cornerstones of the Hawks. They were parts. The trades were great trades for the Hawks. Console yourself by attending the Hall of Fame in Toronto, in the future, to cry in front of them. Oh sorry there is no chance they are making the Hall of Fame. Stop acting as if they they are Hall of Fame players. They were important parts, although not the most important parts and the Hawks will be just fine.
Hawkster
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec , QC
Joined: 06.13.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:00 PM ET
Kukla's Korner‏ @nhl 7m7 minutes ago

Evening Line- Jaromir Jagr: His tweet... Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On

- Mr Ricochet


For the right price I would call this guy!
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:05 PM ET
Kukla's Korner‏ @nhl 7m7 minutes ago

Evening Line- Jaromir Jagr: His tweet... Everywhere I look,I read:all FA getting calls from10-12teams. Me0 calls.On

- Mr Ricochet


Kane and Jagr on a line would be VERY fun to watch.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:09 PM ET
Kane and Jagr on a line would be VERY fun to watch.
- EnzoD


who would forecheck or play D?
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:10 PM ET
who would forecheck or play D?
- riozzo


Anisimov!
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:13 PM ET
Anisimov!
- EnzoD

He will be gone, who is next up?
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:15 PM ET
is me or extremely quiet around the nhl couple of buy outs thats it thought there would be more movement as far as trading. Hawks have on day to see if they can trade AA to where who knows.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Jun 29 @ 7:17 PM ET
Don't you ever get tired of the pot shots?
- riozzo

Headline the following March: "Blackhawks re-acquire three-time cup winner Niklas Hjalmarsson in trade deadline deal with Arizona".

Book it.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 29 @ 7:18 PM ET
is me or extremely quiet around the nhl couple of buy outs thats it thought there would be more movement as far as trading. Hawks have on day to see if they can trade AA to where who knows.
- Scott1977


Why only one day?
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