Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
15s

Kris Versteeg and the Calgary Flames are putting the finishing touches on a 1 year contract to keep Versteeg with the Flames. $1.75 mil.
- jt19

They can keep him.....

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
15s

Kris Versteeg and the Calgary Flames are putting the finishing touches on a 1 year contract to keep Versteeg with the Flames. $1.75 mil.
- jt19

They can keep him.....

Here is a snippet on Hockey Operations from NHL.com:

Injured Reserve List

In the event that a player is injured and a Club wishes to place him on the Injured Reserve List the Club must follow these procedures:
A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club's initial physical examination in that season.

A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minumum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club's Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club's medical staff and in accordance with the Club's medical standards.

A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
Players on Injured Reserve may attend Club meetings and meals, travel with the Club and participate in practice sessions.

So playing a rival GM, my questions would be:

- When did Hossa sustain the injury, illness, or become disabled? Since there is a record of him having this condition, why is he choosing now to take a break?
- What is the timeframe for his return? If it's indefinite, what is the protocol for him taking a physical to see if he is fit to return? If there isn't one, how is this not a retirement?
- When did he pass the league year 2017-2018 season physical and then become ill?

I'm interested in what the definition and timing of LTIR is. If Hossa can pass a physical, shouldn't he be on the active roster since he's under contract? If he can't, then LTIR should be an option with the caveat of WHEN will he be able to pass a physical. If, under doctor's orders, he SHOULDN'T play but physically could, isn't that, by definition, retirement?

Don't get me wrong, he's my favorite player and want him back (or his cap space). But I'm not sure it's as much of a slam dunk (knowing what I know, which isn't necessarily all the information) that he gets LTIR as people are saying.

Darren Dreger @DarrenDreger
15s

Kris Versteeg and the Calgary Flames are putting the finishing touches on a 1 year contract to keep Versteeg with the Flames. $1.75 mil.
- jt19

They can keep him.....

They can keep him.....
- Hawkster

Sorry about that triple post - computer error

Sign Hartnell for 2 years, $5M. He can more than able play the 2nd line with Kane and with AA or Schmaltz at center.

Sign Pouliot for 1 year, $1.5-$2M. There's your 3LW.

Gives the Hawks some flexibility if they decide to trade AA (assuming Kruger is a goner) for potentially a young forward or defenseman.

Saad-Toews-Panik
Hartnell-AA (or Schmaltz)-Kane
Pouliot-Schmaltz (or Dauphin)-Hartman
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What's with these penalties that the league is making teams pay that had bonus overages this past year? I thought that the bonus overages just rolled over to the following years cap, and there were no penalties associated with that?

What's with these penalties that the league is making teams pay that had bonus overages this past year? I thought that the bonus overages just rolled over to the following years cap, and there were no penalties associated with that?
- ToewsdNKanefusd

What penalty are you referring to?

Sign Hartnell for 2 years, $5M. He can more than able play the 2nd line with Kane and with AA or Schmaltz at center.

Sign Pouliot for 1 year, $1.5-$2M. There's your 3LW.

Gives the Hawks some flexibility if they decide to trade AA (assuming Kruger is a goner) for potentially a young forward or defenseman.

Saad-Toews-Panik
Hartnell-AA (or Schmaltz)-Kane
Pouliot-Schmaltz (or Dauphin)-Hartman
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- Dannyboy

Hartnall shouldn't be allowed near any teams top 6. He's in decline and it's accelerating. A few years ago sure, but not today and for sure not in the future.

What's with these penalties that the league is making teams pay that had bonus overages this past year? I thought that the bonus overages just rolled over to the following years cap, and there were no penalties associated with that?
- ToewsdNKanefusd

That's all it is. Cap overages form bonuses. Some places are calling them "penalties" incorrectly.

@goldenkinghts
We have a transaction to announce...and we don't believe this one has been leaked yet😈
1:59 PM - 29 Jun 2017

Kruger finally?

@goldenkinghts
We have a transaction to announce...and we don't believe this one has been leaked yet😈
1:59 PM - 29 Jun 2017

Kruger finally?
- BURDA13

Nope... just an assistant coach hire

Jagr in Chicago


- Hank3Henshaw

I know he's beloved and is a great interview, but I've never liked the guy, even when he was in his prime -- he's been a cherry-picker and stat hound his entire career. Jagr's been in the league for 36 years, and has yet to backcheck once. Now, he's slow as molasses, still plays no D, and in his rare appearances in the playoffs over the past 10 years, he was not impactful. I'd be a hard pass on this guy.


Maybe I'm just still bitter about '92 Stanley Cup finals ....

What happens if the other team gets competitive and wants the cap space in a year or two. Puts pressure on Hossa to report or retire. If he doesn't show they start fining him, etc.

Not certain it would happen but think Hawks would forever have worries in the back of their mind until contract is officially dead.
- Gerk

Hossa can then be bought out - doesn't impact Hawks, cap hit is low and salary is even lower.

Friedman: "Montreal has got a lot of things going on. They're looking at Alzner too. Obviously Radulov." #Habs

I know he's beloved and is a great interview, but I've never liked the guy, even when he was in his prime -- he's been a cherry-picker and stat hound his entire career. Jagr's been in the league for 36 years, and has yet to backcheck once. Now, he's slow as molasses, still plays no D, and in his rare appearances in the playoffs over the past 10 years, he was not impactful. I'd be a hard pass on this guy.


Maybe I'm just still bitter about '92 Stanley Cup finals ....
- Hank_Greenberg

So exciting with the Bulls and Hawks in the finals that year. Don't remind me.

Lots of posturing by CBJ to make a Kovalchuk deal feasible... Still has KHL on table, once again, wants to come back for CBJ and NYR only

Friedman: "Montreal has got a lot of things going on. They're looking at Alzner too. Obviously Radulov." #Habs
- walleyeb1

Montreal can have Alzner.

That's all it is. Cap overages form bonuses. Some places are calling them "penalties" incorrectly.
- JRoenick97

https://www.hockeyfeed.co...for-salary-cap-violations

Doesn't look to me like simply overages rolling forward...

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/breaking-nhl-fines-10-teams-for-salary-cap-violations

Doesn't look to me like simply overages rolling forward...
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Those aren't "fines" as they are saying. They are just bonus overages. 3613000 in bonuses minus the 55000 in cap space leaves 3558000 in carry over. That site is garbage.

Capfriendly has it right on the hawks page:

CARRYOVER BONUS OVERAGES $3,558,000

If that's the case they would have been able to trade him.
- walleyeb1

Not necessarily. He had a NMC. If they were trading him the team he was traded to would have had to pay the two years remaining ($7.5 mil) left on his contract and give up something.

Now any team signing him can sign him at $3 mil for one year without a NMC and give up nothing.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/breaking-nhl-fines-10-teams-for-salary-cap-violations

Doesn't look to me like simply overages rolling forward...
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Actually, rereading it now, I think you are right...Just the way they stated "being fined" that threw me off.

Actually, rereading it now, I think you are right...Just the way they stated "being fined" that threw me off.
- ToewsdNKanefusd

Yeah, I saw that site before. No idea why they are saying fines.

Sign Hartnell for 2 years, $5M. He can more than able play the 2nd line with Kane and with AA or Schmaltz at center.

Sign Pouliot for 1 year, $1.5-$2M. There's your 3LW.

Gives the Hawks some flexibility if they decide to trade AA (assuming Kruger is a goner) for potentially a young forward or defenseman.

Saad-Toews-Panik
Hartnell-AA (or Schmaltz)-Kane
Pouliot-Schmaltz (or Dauphin)-Hartman
xxx-Vet good at FO & PK-xxx
- Dannyboy

Pouliot has a weird year last year where he dropped off crazy. Chances are he'll rebound at least somewhat into a middle 6 performance range. On the cheap, it's a low risk/high reward situation.

I would stay clear of Hartnell tbh. He's been declining, is pretty slow, and has a low defensive impact. Looks like a good checking player - is actually an ineffective checking player. The risk that he slides more is also high. He also may want 35+ bonuses thrown in. Could be useful, but not necessarily the best use of cap space.

Definitely wouldn't want both Pouliot and Hartnell - if neither works, team is (frank)ed.

Yeah, I saw that site before. No idea why they are saying fines.
- JRoenick97

To suck in the gullible ones like myself!