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Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:14 PM ET
Carol will you be at UBC to watch prospects? If so, on Palmu, if you noticed on your blog video, we raised this end of last thread, he's been used on the point in PP. Could you ask if Palmu could be a PP QB option? Something that he could work on?

Plus we know of contract for Finish league which was done before draft. Maybe if he was passed over again. Is there an out clause where AHL would be an option now for Palmu? Will you be able to ask Canucks what they would want now after seeing him at development camp?

- Nuck4U


I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.

- Crazybagoham


I am willing to sell my wife for some goals and offense.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
I am willing to sell my wife for some goals and offense.
- hillbillydeluxe



I don't have a wife but I would gladly sell a human being for more offence.

I just see offence coming more easily from our forwards, than from our defence that can't even defend
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.

- Crazybagoham


See clips of Erik Karlsson on the PP, you will be blown away on how good he is on the blueline on power plays.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
See clips of Erik Karlsson on the PP, you will be blown away on how good he is on the blueline on power plays.
- Codes1087



Not what I was getting at, I have a problem with bringing up a guy that can't make the NHL because he's not good enough at his own position(SUBBAN) throwing this "PP QB" label on him and thinking he will be successful playing 3rd line minutes and being gifted ice time.

Karlsson is an amazing defender (my favourite player in the NHL), thus he makes for an amazing man on the PP.

Just because Yannick Weber was on this fashionable Nashville corps, doesn;t mean he didnt get picked apart on the PK by better players on Pitt.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:33 PM ET
I can see this happening in the future.....




McDavid with a $13.5m bounty contract...
JV runs over him again...
Kassian races in losing it like usual...
JV ignores him & lets Kassian take a solo penalty...
BB scores on the PP...
Kassians next shift he's looking for a scrap...
Gadjovich asks him if he has pyjamas?
Kassian asks why?
I'm putting u to sleep....
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:36 PM ET
I can see this happening in the future.....




McDavid with a $13.5m bounty contract...
JV runs over him again...
Kassian races in losing it like usual...
JV ignores him & lets Kassian take a solo penalty...
BB scores on the PP...
Kassians next shift he's looking for a scrap...
Gadjovich asks him if he has pyjamas?
Kassian asks why?
I'm putting u to sleep....

- Nighthawk



I can see this happening: Mcdavid/Kassian win a few cups and JV/Gadjovich never make the NHL.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
Thanks Carol, great blog and great piece on BR!

I'm betting it's pure coincidence that Palmu and Gadjovich are best friends and JB drafted them both, but that's the kind of thing that can make a substantial difference in their development a year or 2 from now when they are in Utica trying to take that next step.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
I can see this happening: Mcdavid/Kassian win a few cups and JV/Gadjovich never make the NHL.
- Crazybagoham

Greendog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.07.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Not what I was getting at, I have a problem with bringing up a guy that can't make the NHL because he's not good enough at his own position(SUBBAN) throwing this "PP QB" label on him and thinking he will be successful playing 3rd line minutes and being gifted ice time.

Karlsson is an amazing defender (my favourite player in the NHL), thus he makes for an amazing man on the PP.

Just because Yannick Weber was on this fashionable Nashville corps, doesn;t mean he didnt get picked apart on the PK by better players on Pitt.

- Crazybagoham


I miss Sami Salo
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
I miss Sami Salo
- Greendog

Sami misses his left nut.
Crazybagoham
Joined: 06.27.2014

Jun 29 @ 3:47 PM ET
I miss Sami Salo
- Greendog


and his slapper
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 3:55 PM ET
I can see this happening: Mcdavid/Kassian win a few cups and JV/Gadjovich never make the NHL.
- Crazybagoham


I can see Kassian carrying McDavids cup
bryndog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 3:59 PM ET
Palmu has a contract with TPS of the Finnish league for next season. One of their assistant coaches is Sami Salo.
Greendog
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 08.07.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:02 PM ET
Sami misses his left nut.
- SRam19


he had a great shot. some would even say it was money.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 29 @ 4:07 PM ET
Time for error hour...
EK oughta pay his bills or invest in some maintenance
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:10 PM ET
Time for error hour...
EK oughta pay his bills or invest in some maintenance

- Nighthawk

Seems a bit odd for a non-season ticket holder to say that
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
Thanks Carol, great blog and great piece on BR!

I'm betting it's pure coincidence that Palmu and Gadjovich are best friends and JB drafted them both, but that's the kind of thing that can make a substantial difference in their development a year or 2 from now when they are in Utica trying to take that next step.

- NorthNuck


He's drafted or signed former teammates that are prospects four times , there is no such thing as coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if their were more that I'm missing, seems to like this as a strategy. (thought it was a great idea with WD and the med hat boys too)

Demko/Rathbone
Dahlen/Petterson
Palmu/Gadjovich
Stecher/Boeser

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:26 PM ET
he had a great shot. some would even say it was money.
- Greendog

slow clap, sir.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:29 PM ET
I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.

- Crazybagoham



Well I can't blame you not liking a football term used for hockey. As far as the role it's something the hockey community is pushing as an effective way for the power play to generate offense. To come from the point. It really doesn't matter if you are a forward or D both have been used by different teams. Guess preference is a d man in case puck is lost so they can defend.

Anyway, had a lot of questions in that post you replied to for Carol. Hope Carol answers or sheds light there. Palmu is that type of lower round pick that could turn into found gold. What really powers a rebuild.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 29 @ 4:32 PM ET
He's drafted or signed former teammates that are prospects four times , there is no such thing as coincidence. I wouldn't be surprised if their were more that I'm missing, seems to like this as a strategy. (thought it was a great idea with WD and the med hat boys too)

Demko/Rathbone
Dahlen/Petterson
Palmu/Gadjovich
Stecher/Boeser

- neem55

Rathbone is all Brackett and I doubt it had anything to do with Demko. Agree on the others
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:33 PM ET
I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.

- Crazybagoham


Majority of teams run a 4F-1D powerplay anyways, if youre picking between a Yannick Weber/Jordan Subban-type D, or a forward to defend a shorthanded rush, there will be minimal difference

I agree with the PP QB label nonsense. You just need a good playmaker that can distribute the puck effectively on the powerplay, it doesnt need to be any specific position
we_are_all_canucks
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Don't hate me because I'm really really ridiculously good looking.
Joined: 09.29.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
I find this whole notion of a "PP quarterback" to be complete nonsense. A defenders job on the PP (in my opinion) should be to hold pucks on the blue line and occasionally make a pass/shot. Not run the entire powerplay, that's the centres job.

Sure, there are plenty of good, puck moving defenders that play the power play, but they are also good defenders on top of it (Burns, Doughty, Keith come to mind).

If a defender's only bright spot is playing 2nd line PP minutes, I don't want him.

Just my thoughts on that whole business. Seems like we are looking for a defensemen that won't really play defence, I don't buy it.

- Crazybagoham

Sam Gagner was pretty effective on the point for CLB last year. As far as defensive capabilities, speed covers a multitude of sins.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jun 29 @ 4:34 PM ET
Seems a bit odd for a non-season ticket holder to say that
- neem55


The adds drive more of their revenues.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 29 @ 4:38 PM ET
Not what I was getting at, I have a problem with bringing up a guy that can't make the NHL because he's not good enough at his own position(SUBBAN) throwing this "PP QB" label on him and thinking he will be successful playing 3rd line minutes and being gifted ice time.

Karlsson is an amazing defender (my favourite player in the NHL), thus he makes for an amazing man on the PP.

Just because Yannick Weber was on this fashionable Nashville corps, doesn;t mean he didnt get picked apart on the PK by better players on Pitt.

- Crazybagoham


Weber didn't play PP for nashville.

D men pinching from the point, going between the hashmarks and to the net, and jumping into odd man rushes is the new norm. I agree it's not QB or whatever, but it is offensive minded enough to score and join the rush and find the lane. We have Stecher that can do this without getting burned, that's about it. We have Hutton that can do this, but not without getting torched consistently. Jb knows it and is trying I think. I would not be surprised to see kuliakov or delzotto given a shot.
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