McDavid just got $100 Mill

Yeah , I can see what you mean on that.
- MattStrat

I don't even like Shane Doan. (He's the only guy that comes to mind as a 4th line winger option with grit at the moment). But if that's what you want... why the hell not? I know Reaves isn't going to be the key to the Pens success.. but Kostin was considered the number 1 overall euro player in the draft. And he fell RIGHT INTO THE PENS laps. And they traded it for a god damn dime a dozen 4th liner.

Doan + Kostin in Pens system > Reaves

any day of the week IMO.

Say they drafted Kostin.. he's listed as LW... give Sheary his bridge deal... by the time thats up... trade him, insert Kostin.. boom. Coulda been Guenztel, Kostin, ZAR, Sprong as wingers in the next 3 or so years.

I'm not a Sheary hater, nor do I want him traded. But not tripping on imaginary objects is something he does poorly. I've never seen an NHL player fall as much as him without anybody around him.
- mw630

I don't give a poop if he trips 50 times a game, you put up a 71 point pace and wind up with a +21 5v5 goal differential, you're okay in my book.

lol I just don't even see a trade to be made here.. what does Carolina need? (not from the Pens, but just in general)
- j.boyd919

Either a 1C or a 3C.

That's literally it.

Either a 1C or a 3C.

That's literally it.
- BINGO!

And no one trades 1C's except Chiarelli and everyone needs a 3C lol

I don't give a poop if he trips 50 times a game, you put up a 71 point pace and wind up with a +21 5v5 goal differential, you're okay in my book.
- j.boyd919

Agreed - I like Sheary. You just asked for one thing he does poorly - and the amount of times he falls untouched makes me laugh. I'll take his offensive output anyday of the week.

Man this 3C is such a huge issue. We're gonna start the season with a 4th liner playing 3C (Rowney) and an AHLer playing 4C on a line with a marginal NHL talent in Reeves. This is Ray Shero's bottom six all over again....
- Victoro311

This is about as huge of an issue as the end of the world, nuclear war and when will that comet finally hit us. It's a none issue, you're just making it out to be. JR and Sully are not worried, why would you worry for yourself?

What is with the negativity today? I can't say I love the moves, but for next season we are adding:

Sprongs, Reese, Letang, Hunwick

and losing

Kunitz, bonino, hainsey daley

Every guy we are adding is much better than what we lost (With exception of bonino). Yes I'd wish we made some savvy moves, but realistically we are adding a lot internally.

Letang-Dumolin
Cole-Schultz
Maatta-Hunwick

They dont need a top 4....everyone wants a top 4 becuase of Letang's health. I dont think Letang missed one game in the 2016 cup run. Its hard to bet that he'll be 100% healthy all year...but come playoff time he really could be. Who knows.

The Pens almost clinched Presidents Trophy dressing 15 different defencemen last season..
- MattStrat

That d looks pretty good with with ruhwedel as 7 , how did corrado make out down the stretch after the deal ???

Now that everyone knows Schultzy can push hopefully they ride him more and ease the burden off tanger, well he better not b sheltered at that price

McDavid just got $100 Mill
- mont23

Fair deal. Probably a slight discount to what he could have forced then to pay, but he locks it in a year early and removes injury risks in season. I assume the players association wanted the ceiling raised.

This is probably inline with what crosby/malkin got relative to the cap then. A little higher.

Agreed - I like Sheary. You just asked for one thing he does poorly - and the amount of times he falls untouched makes me laugh. I'll take his offensive output anyday of the week.
- mw630

Oh yeah, I know lol I laugh at him and Rust, they both fall all the time.

Supposedly the main reason J. Staal wanted to be traded before is that he wanted to be a top two line center, something he would never be while the Pens have Crosby and Malkin. Why would he want to take a step back while at the peak of his career? If such a trade did happen the Pens would have to give up a lot, Carolina would lose a key piece to try to rebuild their team around, and Staal himself would be unhappy. There is no way I see this happening.

I don't know if he is ready yet but one possibility is to bring up JS Dea from the WBS Pens. The past two Cup winning teams had many players who were recent call-ups from the minors, where it was uncertain how long they would stay up (Rust, Wilson, Sheary, Guentzel, Kuhnackel, not to mention Murray). Given enough time, patience, and opportunity they not only developed into solid NHL caliber player but even contributed to back to back Cup wins. I have to wonder if Dea is in the same boat. Starting the season with him as the third line center is definitely taking a risk but it would avoid the need to make a costly trade.

For fourth line center, it would be ideal if Cullen could stay one more year but if the team had to trade for one at least the trade would be less costly.

Oh well, at least we have Sestito for another year .

What is with the negativity today? I can't say I love the moves, but for next season we are adding:

Sprongs, Reese, Letang, Hunwick

and losing

Kunitz, bonino, hainsey daley

Every guy we are adding is much better than what we lost (With exception of bonino). Yes I'd wish we made some savvy moves, but realistically we are adding a lot internally.
- sditulli

I'm not sure Sprong makes the team next season to be honest. I think he needs a year in the AHL first. ZAR? Maybe? In a bottom 6 role? But with Reeves... Why not let him develop int he AHL?

What is with the negativity today? I can't say I love the moves, but for next season we are adding:

Sprongs, Reese, Letang, Hunwick

and losing

Kunitz, bonino, hainsey daley

Every guy we are adding is much better than what we lost (With exception of bonino). Yes I'd wish we made some savvy moves, but realistically we are adding a lot internally.
- sditulli

Kunitz is still a really good hockey player. I am bummed he isn't going to be back. I'd rather have Kunitz on the 4th line than Reeves.

And no one trades 1C's except Chiarelli and everyone needs a 3C lol
- j.boyd919

Pretty much.

Derek Ryan isn't a great fit at 3C, but unless one of the rookies steps up, or they decide to move one of Aho/Lindholm/Teravainen to C and slide Rask or Staal down, that's where we're at.

Interesting quote from the PPG. What the hell could this mean? GMJR is being more cryptic than usual:

If anything, it seems the Penguins are taking steps to address their center position in other ways than simply making a deal.

“We’re doing some things here now that are certainly going to give us more depth at center,” Rutherford said. “As for acquiring somebody, I don’t know. I’m going to be patient on it.”

Rutherford did not care to elaborate on what that first sentence meant — whether the Penguins would sign a free agent or make a trade; he said he wanted to avoid any sort of gamesmanship.

I'm still celebrating the cup win.

Got 99 prablams but a cup ain't one.

Kunitz is still a really good hockey player. I am bummed he isn't going to be back. I'd rather have Kunitz on the 4th line than Reeves.
- j.boyd919

They both have potential. 2nd half a season players. We should add some cheap depth.

Interesting quote from the PPG. What the hell could this mean? GMJR is being more cryptic than usual:

If anything, it seems the Penguins are taking steps to address their center position in other ways than simply making a deal.

“We’re doing some things here now that are certainly going to give us more depth at center,” Rutherford said. “As for acquiring somebody, I don’t know. I’m going to be patient on it.”

Rutherford did not care to elaborate on what that first sentence meant — whether the Penguins would sign a free agent or make a trade; he said he wanted to avoid any sort of gamesmanship.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Either moving Guenz to C, signing a KHL defector or offer sheeting a RFA would be my guess. Either way small potatoes IMO

Pretty much.

Derek Ryan isn't a great fit at 3C, but unless one of the rookies steps up, or they decide to move one of Aho/Lindholm/Teravainen to C and slide Rask or Staal down, that's where we're at.
- BINGO!

You have Ryan above Jooris, Kruger?

Either moving Guenz to C, signing a KHL defector or offer sheeting a RFA would be my guess. Either way small potatoes IMO
- stowerkraut

I agree, another possibility, Cullen announces he is coming back.

You have Ryan above Jooris, Kruger?
- stowerkraut

Yes.

Though mostly for offensive production.

Skinner - Rask - Lindholm
Aho - Staal - Williams
Teravainen - Ryan - Stempniak
Nordstrom - Kruger - Jooris

What is with the negativity today? I can't say I love the moves, but for next season we are adding:

Sprongs, Reese, Letang, Hunwick

and losing

Kunitz, bonino, hainsey daley

Every guy we are adding is much better than what we lost (With exception of bonino). Yes I'd wish we made some savvy moves, but realistically we are adding a lot internally.
- sditulli

It pays to be patient. JR was able to completely change the team mid-season a couple of years ago and then went on to win the cup. Fans owe him the patience to get a quality 3C by the time the puck drops.

It pays to be patient. JR was able to completely change the team mid-season a couple of years ago and then went on to win the cup. Fans owe him the patience to get a quality 3C by the time the puck drops.
- madmike71

Agreed. Its July guys!

It pays to be patient. JR was able to completely change the team mid-season a couple of years ago and then went on to win the cup. Fans owe him the patience to get a quality 3C by the time the puck drops.
- madmike71

It's not that I'm impatient, it's that I'm not sure what the direction is that he is trying to steer the Pens. When he does acquire that 3C.. I think it'll say a lot. Hopefully the Reaves thing satisfied his toughness need and he can get back to acquiring skilled hockey players.