bennett for yak
tough but fair
- DDM-Coga

But Yak has better career stats 😬

Bennett played 81 games last year. He had 13 goals/26 points and was a -16. What the heck does he think that's worth? What leverage does he think he has?

I will grudgingly accept a Sam Bennett for Klas Dahlbeck trade.

GRUDGINGLY.

But Yak has better career stats 😬
- Shyster19

good call, might have to add a 2nd rounder with Benny.

If there's any truth to this, I wonder if the Flames are just refusing to give him a short term deal. It should be the easiest thing ever and not worth destroying their relationship over.

Bennett has absolutely no argument to ask for more than 1.5 for one year or 2.5 for two years, and I can't see the Flames not willing to be even close to those numbers if they'd do a short contract.

Duclair just got 1.2 for a year, which should make it even easier. He also had one great year followed by a pretty crappy year. Give Bennett 1.5 so he can feel that the Flames think he's better than Duclair and do this again next year.

Bennett's also a headcase. Skipping training camp and then putting all that pressure on himself to earn his next contract in one season isn't going to work out well for him.

Bennett played 81 games last year. He had 13 goals/26 points and was a -16. What the heck does he think that's worth? What leverage does he think he has?
- stevens87

He was the most overhyped prospect of his draft class and one of the most overhyped prospects period IMO. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/. His stats last year are only part of the negotiations. The guy still gets gushed over at times, has many supporters, and more than a few excuses for his play last year.

Really don't see him accepting 2 years at 2.5. That seems a pipe dream. Young "potential star" players don't typically settle for those kind of contracts. Major props to Tre if he can pull off that kind of deal.

I would expect a 1 year deal for around 3 mill. Or a 4 year around 4 mill. Or a 6 to 8 year around 5 to 6mill.

Weird move for the Bennett camp to pull. He should take a two year bridge deal of whatever qualifying offer his team is giving him and work his butt off to earn a bigger second contract.

Any chance the Flames are trying to low ball him with a longer term offer at a reduced contract?

I think BT is probably trying to get him to sign a similar contract to what Ferland signed (1.75). Bennett is probably asking for closer to 3 mill for 2 years.

Not sure why they haven't found a middle ground yet. I'm sure it will get done. BT wasn't afraid to dig his feet in with Johnny, so I doubt Bennett is going to make him sweat.

26 pts for '21 year old Sam Bennett' last season over 81 games.

2 year bridge time for Bennett to step up if he wants to get paid.

Really don't see him accepting 2 years at 2.5. That seems a pipe dream. Young "potential star" players don't typically settle for those kind of contracts. Major props to Tre if he can pull off that kind of deal.

I would expect a 1 year deal for around 3 mill. Or a 4 year around 4 mill. Or a 6 to 8 year around 5 to 6mill.
- Aerchon

Again, can you name one comparable player who got a big short term contract just because they were a potential star? You have to earn your money after your first contract and Bennett really hasn't done any special. 2 years at 2.5 is still more than what Bennett's worth at this point in time. 3 million for 1 year is lunacy and Bennett better start learning German if he's holding out for that.

You can't start the precedent of handing out contracts based on potential or you'll never get another reasonable deal signed.

nope 2 year 5.5m deal so you have to qualify him at 6m next time.

Paybacks a female dog
- DDM-Coga

You sure you wanna get rid of that 1st round pick Might be nice to get ourselves a fancy 1st overall pick next year

You sure you wanna get rid of that 1st round pick Might be nice to get ourselves a fancy 1st overall pick next year
- Saskabush

youll get your fair chance of that yourselves with you miss the playoffs and are in the lottery

mike smith...the lottery pick whisperer

He was the most overhyped prospect of his draft class and one of the most overhyped prospects period IMO. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/. His stats last year are only part of the negotiations. The guy still gets gushed over at times, has many supporters, and more than a few excuses for his play last year.

Really don't see him accepting 2 years at 2.5. That seems a pipe dream. Young "potential star" players don't typically settle for those kind of contracts. Major props to Tre if he can pull off that kind of deal.

I would expect a 1 year deal for around 3 mill. Or a 4 year around 4 mill. Or a 6 to 8 year around 5 to 6mill.
- Aerchon

You're (frank)ing high!

On another note, this was obviously leaked on purpose by his agent to try and create leverage. A bunch of bs if you ask me.

youll get your fair chance of that yourselves with you miss the playoffs and are in the lottery

mike smith...the lottery pick whisperer
- DDM-Coga

there's always a chance...

I think it's more likely that we are battling for home ice advantage than missing the playoffs though.

Edit:
and Taylor Hall is the lottery whisperer, not Mike Smith!

there's always a chance...

I think it's more likely that we are battling for home ice advantage than missing the playoffs though.

Edit:
and Taylor Hall is the lottery whisperer, not Mike Smith!
- Saskabush

this is hockey buzz....there is no room for logical takes here.
Hot takes and trolling only please

Again, can you name one comparable player who got a big short term contract just because they were a potential star? You have to earn your money after your first contract and Bennett really hasn't done any special. 2 years at 2.5 is still more than what Bennett's worth at this point in time. 3 million for 1 year is lunacy and Bennett better start learning German if he's holding out for that.

You can't start the precedent of handing out contracts based on potential or you'll never get another reasonable deal signed.
- Hunkulese

I agree with his actual value at this point in time I just think it's more typical that players like him get paid on potential. It would be great if players always just got paid year to year based on how they perform.

Bennett signing for 2.5 mill for 2 years would help the league/GMs/teams with how higher profile players in RFA are getting paid.

I think the next lockout there will be some significant push back by Owners/GMs on sharpening the teeth of RFA contracts. Maybe some limits or more "rights" for Owners/GMs to give them some more negotiating power.

Its hard to put up big numbers on the 3rd line with no power play time...its just a fact. True he hasn't earned it yet but most top draft picks are gifted those minutes, not gonna happen in Calgary where he is behind two fairly young established NHL centers.


Anyone who knows a thing about hockey and has watched him play will realize the potential. IF he was gifted top line minutes he would have much higher numbers obviously.

Still the deal is 2.5-3M on a short term contract

I have my doubts about Oiler fanboy DD and his "reporting"

My guess is that the Flames want a longer deal and he wants a shorter deal...until he is missing camp its really not an issue.

Flames could be like another team and just give their players whatever they want...long term though that isn't very smart

I agree with his actual value at this point in time I just think it's more typical that players like him get paid on potential. It would be great if players always just got paid year to year based on how they perform.

- Aerchon

Again, people keep saying players like him get paid on potential, yet never give an example of the players like him. Who's one player who put up underwhelming numbers during their ELC, then were given a big contract anyway because of potential? Every player who's been given a big RFA contract has had at least one breakout season.

Bennett's production from last year could easily be replicated by a number of players who were in the AHL last year. Bennett has absolutely 0 leverage to negotiate a short term deal and has an awful agent if that's what they can't agree on.

"Possibility Bennett may head overseas" click bait

Again, people keep saying players like him get paid on potential, yet never give an example of the players like him. Who's one player who put up underwhelming numbers during their ELC, then were given a big contract anyway because of potential? Every player who's been given a big RFA contract has had at least one breakout season.

Bennett's production from last year could easily be replicated by a number of players who were in the AHL last year. Bennett has absolutely 0 leverage to negotiate a short term deal and has an awful agent if that's what they can't agree on.
- Hunkulese

People have mentioned Yakupov. Who we can all agree is not as good as Bennett.

I am sure there are more examples of ELC contracts with slightly inflated salary's for highly touted but poor performing top 10 draft picks.

"Possibility Bennett may head overseas" click bait
- The-O-G

Dreger just getting back at it. Needs to get some views, before he ends up being the TSN Ping Pong Insider.

Again, people keep saying players like him get paid on potential, yet never give an example of the players like him. Who's one player who put up underwhelming numbers during their ELC, then were given a big contract anyway because of potential? Every player who's been given a big RFA contract has had at least one breakout season.

Bennett's production from last year could easily be replicated by a number of players who were in the AHL last year. Bennett has absolutely 0 leverage to negotiate a short term deal and has an awful agent if that's what they can't agree on.
- Hunkulese

examples? How about Eberle, RNH and to an extent Draisatl and even McDavid. Eberle makes more than Tavares for (frank) sakes. I get Macdavid has been very good but has he 'earned' $12.5 mil? Drai has had 1 good year.

He was the most overhyped prospect of his draft class and one of the most overhyped prospects period IMO. http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospect-rankings/. His stats last year are only part of the negotiations. The guy still gets gushed over at times, has many supporters, and more than a few excuses for his play last year.

Really don't see him accepting 2 years at 2.5. That seems a pipe dream. Young "potential star" players don't typically settle for those kind of contracts. Major props to Tre if he can pull off that kind of deal.

I would expect a 1 year deal for around 3 mill. Or a 4 year around 4 mill. Or a 6 to 8 year around 5 to 6mill.
- Aerchon

If Bennett gets a 6-8 year deal at $6mil + then Tre should likely get canned. And your insane for even suggesting that as remote possibility.

I've said it a few times now but I wouldn't be surprised if Tre is trying to get Sam at a Charlie Coyle type contract 5 years at roughly 3.2-3.5 per. And Sams agent wants a 2 year max. Sam would be really hurting potential future $ if he missed camp like Gaudreau did last year. He'd end up behind the eight ball and likely have a slow start that derails his entire year which if he wants a 1 year deal he'd potentially be (frank)ed. After that. Plus if Jank or whoever comes in and takes his spot at 3 C and does well, that further hurts his negotiating power.

On the + side CGY has signed Witherspoon and Sam is now the last bit of business.

On the + side CGY has signed Witherspoon and Sam is now the last bit of business.
- TandA4Flames

Another good signing by BT