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flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Oct 31 @ 5:26 PM ET
Yeah... well old anyway. My Uncle took me to some guys the very first season, got hooked on the game and the Flyers as a kid
- flyhoc



uh that was " took me to some games"
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:26 PM ET
Let it always be known that I was an OG Couturier fan.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Today he’s a beacon of reprimanding his readers. It’s always a breath of fresh air.

I seem to remember being told last season that Morin needed to work out his positioning problems in the AHL, that they couldn’t afford those growing ains in the show. Now we’re allowing Sanheim to work through them on the Flyers. Meanwhile Morin still has work to do. IMHO Sanheim has shown consistently more trouble finding his lanes. I have faith both of them are going to be excellent defensemen.

Of course what do I know with my inability to learn fom 5 decades of watching hockey at every level.

- mayorofangrytown


Coaches know much better than we do and they are infallible. So we have been told.

Right now, with the injuries, Sanheim is being asked to be a 2/3 guy rather than playing sheltered minutes on the 3rd pair where he should be right now. He was dominant at the AHL level during the 2nd half of last season, so I'm not sure what else he could learn there. IMO, 3rd pair NHL play would be the best thing for his development right now.

Morin, when all were healthy, was just a victim of the numbers game. I also think a little more time in the AHL to work on the little things and refine his game isn't the worst thing. That being said, once AMac went down, I would have preferred the big guy in the lineup over Manning, but oh well.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:27 PM ET
Today he’s a beacon of reprimanding his readers. It’s always a breath of fresh air.

I seem to remember being told last season that Morin needed to work out his positioning problems in the AHL, that they couldn’t afford those growing ains in the show. Now we’re allowing Sanheim to work through them on the Flyers. Meanwhile Morin still has work to do. IMHO Sanheim has shown consistently more trouble finding his lanes. I have faith both of them are going to be excellent defensemen.

Of course what do I know with my inability to learn fom 5 decades of watching hockey at every level.

- mayorofangrytown


A fundamental of player development is that each player is an individual and should be treated as such. The approach for one player is not automatically the same approach that should be taken with another player.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 5:29 PM ET
A fundamental of player development is that each player is an individual and should be treated as such. The approach for one player is not automatically the same approach that should be taken with another player.
- MJL

Thanks for pointing this out, we never would have guessed.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:32 PM ET
Thanks for pointing this out, we never would have guessed.
- BiggE


Senseless comment. That statement needed to be made based on what was posted in the post I quoted.

I'll be sure to reply in kind next time you make a point that some would consider obvious. That reply simply does not further the conversation
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:33 PM ET
Let it always be known that I was an OG Couturier fan.
- Mononoke

nice try
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
Senseless comment. That statement needed to be made based on what was posted in the post I quoted.
- MJL

pretty sure he knew
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 5:34 PM ET
Senseless comment. That statement needed to be made based on what was posted in the post I quoted.
- MJL

Senseless response to a senseless comment

No response was NEEDED, no ones life would be any worse if the response had not been made. Your response was your usual passive/aggressive snarkiness. Your act is getting old.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
Senseless response to a senseless comment

No response was NEEDED, no ones life would be any worse if the response had not been made. Your response was your usual passive/aggressive snarkiness. Your act is getting old.

- BiggE


My reply was hockey related and on point. Your reply here is not.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Oct 31 @ 5:39 PM ET
Coaches know much better than we do and they are infallible. So we have been told.

Right now, with the injuries, Sanheim is being asked to be a 2/3 guy rather than playing sheltered minutes on the 3rd pair where he should be right now. He was dominant at the AHL level during the 2nd half of last season, so I'm not sure what else he could learn there. IMO, 3rd pair NHL play would be the best thing for his development right now.

Morin, when all were healthy, was just a victim of the numbers game. I also think a little more time in the AHL to work on the little things and refine his game isn't the worst thing. That being said, once AMac went down, I would have preferred the big guy in the lineup over Manning, but oh well.

- BiggE

Bill has always been a players guy. He almost always has their backs. I’m not opposed to that but he’s been drinking a little too much kool-aid lately and deriding your readership is never a good thing to read whether you feel like part of that derision or not.

Targeting long term fans and readers and telling them they haven’t learned anything after decades of following the sport is never a good look and hugely presumptive. Let’s say hope against hope Sanheim flounders and never recovers. As much as I like Bill and, working in papers, like most of the msm with one exception, it almost never works to assume as a writer your opinion is “better” than those of your readership. It never works in your favor.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:39 PM ET
*an
- Scoob

I know man, I was so torn about posting it but the gif quality was top notch, and there wasn't too many others to choose from
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Oct 31 @ 5:41 PM ET
just as long as you acknowledge it
- 2Real


The cookie is there, yes
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:42 PM ET
The cookie is there, yes
- Scoob

i feel better now
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:44 PM ET
Bill has always been a players guy. He almost always has their backs. I’m not opposed to that but he’s been drinking a little too much kool-aid lately and deriding your readership is never a good thing to read whether you feel like part of that derision or not.

Targeting long term fans and readers and telling them they haven’t learned anything after decades of following the sport is never a good look and hugely presumptive. Let’s say hope against hope Sanheim flounders and never recovers. As much as I like Bill and, working in papers, like most of the msm with one exception, it almost never works to assume as a writer your opinion is “better” than thise of your readership. It never works in your favor.

- mayorofangrytown


Bill posting that was really towards a minority on the site whose opinions of certain players is so far off base to be humorous. To characterize it as a general attack against his readership base is off base in my opinion. Many of us have varying degrees of opinions on player but generally it is within the realm of sanity on the sport.
Bill's blog and statements towards that were well written and even contained some info and food for thought for those who are informed.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:46 PM ET
I know man, I was so torn about posting it but the gif quality was top notch, and there wasn't too many others to choose from
- Giroux_Is_God


*weren't
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
Erik Karlsson went -6 last night, guys.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
Let it always be known that I was an OG Couturier fan.
- Mononoke

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
Erik Karlsson went -6 last night, guys.
- Mononoke


I blame the coach. Didn't prepare him to play the game.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
Bill has always been a players guy. He almost always has their backs. I’m not opposed to that but he’s been drinking a little too much kool-aid lately and deriding your readership is never a good thing to read whether you feel like part of that derision or not.

Targeting long term fans and readers and telling them they haven’t learned anything after decades of following the sport is never a good look and hugely presumptive. Let’s say hope against hope Sanheim flounders and never recovers. As much as I like Bill and, working in papers, like most of the msm with one exception, it almost never works to assume as a writer your opinion is “better” than those of your readership. It never works in your favor.

- mayorofangrytown


Fair points.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Oct 31 @ 5:49 PM ET
Erik Karlsson went -6 last night, guys.
- Mononoke

Perhaps they'll trade him to us for AMac, Manning and Read?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Oct 31 @ 5:49 PM ET
I blame the coach. Didn't prepare him to play the game.
- MJL

flyhoc
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.14.2009

Oct 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
Perhaps they'll trade him to us for AMac, Manning and Read?
- BiggE



Im good adding Raffl to the mix

I dont think he adds much more than Read, and I dont think either does much for the team
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Oct 31 @ 5:52 PM ET
Perhaps they'll trade him to us for AMac, Manning and Read?
- BiggE


Uh , lets not trade the future for him..Keep Mandog and we are good.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Oct 31 @ 5:55 PM ET
Im good adding Raffl to the mix

I dont think he adds much more than Read, and I dont think either does much for the team

- flyhoc


This is a perfect example.
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