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CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:43 PM ET
Yeah, I think both teams had this mindset with this deal.
- Nucker101


We gave Subban more attention than his play warranted because of his last name, but this is a minor trade involving fringe NHL players. It will be talked about more but this trade is more minor than Pouliot for Pedan.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 5:43 PM ET
Had hoped JB could have capitalized on Subban's point numbers and moved him in the off season for much needed prospect center help for Comets. Was harping on this need but naysayers said Chaput and Megna were good enough.

So with diminishing asset will take the developed and older Dowd as good enough now. He probably has more of a chance to carve a role and get resigned over Burmi, Chaput & Megna for next season.

- Nuck4U


Do you actually believe this stuff that you put in here?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 8 @ 5:44 PM ET
We gave Subban more attention than his play warranted because of his last name, but this is a minor trade involving fringe NHL players. It will be talked about more but this trade is more minor than Pouliot for Pedan.
- CubanBuffet


Can't argue that.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 8 @ 5:47 PM ET
We gave Subban more attention than his play warranted because of his last name, but this is a minor trade involving fringe NHL players. It will be talked about more but this trade is more minor than Pouliot for Pedan.
- CubanBuffet


Though that has turned out exceedingly well so far!
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:49 PM ET
Can't argue that.
- Nucker101


Someone will, I'm sure.
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 8 @ 5:50 PM ET
Though that has turned out exceedingly well so far!
- NewYorkNuck


The beauty of low expectations.
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Dec 8 @ 5:51 PM ET
The beauty of low expectations.
- CubanBuffet


One of the few times this fanbase has had them
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:13 PM ET
Do you actually believe this stuff that you put in here?
- Reubenkincade


What misinformed thing are you ranting about now....
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:17 PM ET
Had hoped JB could have capitalized on Subban's point numbers and moved him in the off season for much needed prospect center help for Comets. Was harping on this need but naysayers said Chaput and Megna were good enough.

So with diminishing asset will take the developed and older Dowd as good enough now. He probably has more of a chance to carve a role and get resigned over Burmi, Chaput & Megna for next season.

- Nuck4U

I am not sure he's much better then Megna or Chaput. Maybe slightly more physical.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:20 PM ET
We gave Subban more attention than his play warranted because of his last name, but this is a minor trade involving fringe NHL players. It will be talked about more but this trade is more minor than Pouliot for Pedan.
- CubanBuffet


Pouliot is working out well eh. Not only proving he can play in the NHL as a solid 3rd pair guy on either side but also play top four minutes. If you trade a 4th & throw in AHLer for a guy who turns out to be a solid 4/5 D for years to come that's a big trade.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:22 PM ET
What misinformed thing are you ranting about now....
- Nuck4U


I am not ranting about anything, just calling you on your warped recollection of things.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:23 PM ET
We moved from Vancouver and love it so far. We weren't really taking advantage of what Vancouver has to offer so for us it was just overcrowded and expensive.
- CubanBuffet

Right on!
Vancouver Island is fantastic and has so much to offer and don't miss much if anything from the city.

You're a good poster.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:25 PM ET
I am not sure he's much better then Megna or Chaput. Maybe slightly more physical.
- manvanfan


Well even if he's slightly better in all categories on them that's an upgrade. Though looking at his stats, eye test on clips and TG's input from playoffs and level of interest he's got a leg up on them and Burmi right now. With big hole at center now he could prove his worth right away.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:26 PM ET
Had hoped JB could have capitalized on Subban's point numbers and moved him in the off season for much needed prospect center help for Comets. Was harping on this need but naysayers said Chaput and Megna were good enough.

So with diminishing asset will take the developed and older Dowd as good enough now. He probably has more of a chance to carve a role and get resigned over Burmi, Chaput & Megna for next season.

- Nuck4U

You don't have a choice.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:26 PM ET
That should be a fun day in here.
- Reubenkincade


We are still too busy complaining about Forsling
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:28 PM ET
Someone will, I'm sure.
- CubanBuffet

They already are.
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:30 PM ET
We are still too busy complaining about Forsling
- VANTEL


Who?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:33 PM ET
You don't have a choice.
- Marwood


The point was preference. As in, would have wanted to trade Subban in off season for developing prospect Center. So a developed NHL ready one with limited upside is fine in exchange on going nowhere Subban.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:36 PM ET
Well even if he's slightly better in all categories on them that's an upgrade. Though looking at his stats, eye test on clips and TG's input from playoffs and level of interest he's got a leg up on them and Burmi right now. With big hole at center now he could prove his worth right away.
- Nuck4U

He wasn't over 50% on face-offs last season.

8 of his 22 points on the PP.

He's probably a very short term guy who can play infront of net on the PP and take a face-off. Hit someone.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:40 PM ET
We are still too busy complaining about Forsling
- VANTEL

What could have been
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 8 @ 6:41 PM ET
The point was preference. As in, would have wanted to trade Subban in off season for developing prospect Center. So a developed NHL ready one with limited upside is fine in exchange on going nowhere Subban.
- Nuck4U

Developing prospect centers are traded for no good AHL D all the time.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:41 PM ET
We are still too busy complaining about Forsling
- VANTEL


I mean it was a bad trade lol


Basically traded him for Chicago's version of Subban
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
I mean it was a bad trade lol


Basically traded him for Chicago's version of Subban

- Nucker101



Win some lose some
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
I am not ranting about anything, just calling you on your warped recollection of things.
- Reubenkincade


I'd take a look in the mirror on what you call warped recollections. I was the one posting to get a prospect center for Comets when we knew EP and Gaudette wouldn't be there.

Not only for depth for call up but development for prospect wingers. Especially at time when it was thought BB, Dahlen, Goldy and JV would be there.

Suggested trade chip Subban for teams that had center depth like Boston and others. But the responses ranged from let the wingers prove it on their own to Chaput and Megna are good enough AHLrs.

Anyway let that go when the time passed. My point was JB could have made more out of overhyped Subban. Its minor now and an ended chapter. Just like the other AHLer Pedan he tossed. At least he pulled that trigger.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 8 @ 6:47 PM ET
Developing prospect centers are traded for no good AHL D all the time.
- manvanfan


we knew his capabilities...but I was hoping the hype over his offensive numbers would entice another team loaded at center and lacking/needing a PP guy for an AHL prospect lateral trade.
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