I've seen the light. It's glorious.
- Nucker101

- A_SteamingLombardi

and sad at the same time

- A_SteamingLombardi

I've seen the light. It's glorious.
- Nucker101

My definition of salacious is " having an excessive interest in sex, lustful or lecherous, although my wife often accuses me of being salacious, and I mean often , I don't think I could be labelled as salacious with the Canucks

And I also think you're using cynicism in the wrong context, but it is what you termed me as, so be it, I would more go with "realistic skeptic" of the way the team is being put together and how the management is going about ruining players that could have potential long term meaningful careers.

The Canucks are not better than any of the teams below them, except Arizona, If they had a healthy group they could have the potential of 16-20 overall, not good enough for me, but if that's what you want, well then good for you.
- Makita

that's how rebuilds go. Baby steps in development.

They'll learn and compete but will still have a chance to win the lotto. While others marinate elsewhere. Plus add quality picks and players by way of the tools of the business. Hopefully the calls made work out more then they falter.

So is that a "No" on your second last place finish on avatar bet?

that's how rebuilds go. Baby steps in development.

They'll learn and compete but will still have a chance to win the lotto. While adding quality picks and players by way of the tools of the business. Hopefully the calls made work out more then they falter.

So is that a "No" on your second last place finish on avatar bet?
- Nuck4U

How many successful rebuilds traded more picks than they acquired in the cap era?

Thanks Carol,

It seems like Kole Lind isn't afraid to drop them.

http://www.hockeyfights.c...lvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
- VanHockeyGuy

Trade him

I want everyone injured every year and to tank for 15 straight seasons.

Either that or I defend every move made by this team until I die.

Can't be any middle ground.
- Nucker101

The hardest to hold since it rubs everyone else's' stance so wrongly. The objectivity of trying to be realistic while being accused of being on one side or the other since it doesn't conform.

Oh well it's noble bad a sad place to be. Let the arrows fly....

The hardest to hold since it rubs everyone else's' stance so wrongly. The objectivity of trying to be realistic while being accused of being on one side or the other since it doesn't conform.

Oh well it's noble bad a sad place to be. Let the arrows fly....
- Nuck4U

No doubt, if only people stopped labelling people and drawing these lines...

How many successful rebuilds traded more picks than they acquired in the cap era?
- Nucker101

I am all for more picks and have followed the draft for many years, but can you give an example of a successful rebuild in cap-era.
I strongly believe that you should build through the draft(core pieces) no matter what era you are in.

No doubt, if only people stopped labelling people and drawing these lines...
- Nucker101

Well played.... you're almost saying the following.

How many successful rebuilds traded more picks than they acquired in the cap era?
- Nucker101

We went over that before that the lower picks were moved early on because the scouting team wasn't trusted angle. Also, some moves went to bolster the $14M commitment made to the Sedins with younger NHL ready players. There were also a few bombs and mistakes.

Anyway, it still all had the intent of rebuild even if you don't like all the moves made. Could have someone else done better? Perhaps. But who was willing to take the task? So why continue to live in the past?

No doubt, if only people stopped labelling people and drawing these lines...
- Nucker101

True sometimes to defend the label barrage there is a counter to balance it out. But it should be tempered to keep that middle ground, right?

I'm not going to go see a game until they start a real rebuild.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Well played.... you're almost saying the following.


- Pres.cup

So lost and yet so understandable you have a long way to go little one... good luck.

My little one went for her first xmas photos with santa today. Little things like that really make you realize how old you are, and why your parents forced you to do the same thing when you were a kid.

I am all for more picks and have followed the draft for many years, but can you give an example of a successful rebuild in cap-era.
I strongly believe that you should build through the draft(core pieces) no matter what era you are in.
- Reubenkincade

Cue Lefty with his Leaf love rebuild...

I agree, but those players should be developed in a development league...not in the NHL.

Cue Lefty with his Leaf love rebuild...

I agree, but those players should be developed in a development league...not in the NHL.
- Makita

There is cross over of both because of situational realities and non-absolutes in measurement of development. Plus the adjustment factor. Thus, there is a learning experience in the NHL that occurs and that is the development to vet status.

Cue Lefty with his Leaf love rebuild...

I agree, but those players should be developed in a development league...not in the NHL.
- Makita

Most definitely. Bring them up when they are ready, not because they are shiny.

- A_SteamingLombardi

I was at a Pub in Langley/Cloverdale area when they made that announcement…remember it well. We should have had Laine

But it is what it is. I'm sticking with my 24th overall prediction and picking 6th.

I was at a Pub in Langley/Cloverdale area when they made that announcement…remember it well. We should have had Laine

But it is what it is. I'm sticking with my 24th overall prediction and picking 6th.
- LordHumungous

Yup that's how it goes with the new lotto odds are in moving down.

Though would check your math on 24th finish you would be picking top 3 if moving up not 6th.

There is cross over of both because of situational realities and non-absolutes in measurement of development. Plus the adjustment factor. Thus, there is a learning experience in the NHL that occurs and that is the development to vet status.
- Nuck4U

I'm of a majorly different opinion, no matter how colourfully you word it.

There is a learning experience when brought up to the NHL from whatever development league the prospect plays in.
But there is our big difference, players should be developed properly, and then brought up to learn the speed and toughness of the NHL, they had bloody well have been developed on every aspect of the NHL game, the Canucks are doing it all backass words.

Colourful words for a colourful personality.

I'm of a majorly different opinion, no matter how colourfully you word it.

There is a learning experience when brought up to the NHL from whatever development league the prospect plays in.
But there is our big difference, players should be developed properly, and then brought up to learn the speed and toughness of the NHL, they had bloody well have been developed on every aspect of the NHL game, the Canucks are doing it all backass words.
- Makita

You've got it wrong, the NHL is a developmental league for the KHL, look at all the KHL all stars who come over get up to speed and move up leagues. I'm talking all stars like Vey and Tryamkin, not bums like guance and Megna..... or maybe that's just a canucks thing?

I'm of a majorly different opinion, no matter how colourfully you word it.

There is a learning experience when brought up to the NHL from whatever development league the prospect plays in.
But there is our big difference, players should be developed properly, and then brought up to learn the speed and toughness of the NHL, they had bloody well have been developed on every aspect of the NHL game, the Canucks are doing it all backass words.
- Makita

Good to see you acknowledge one aspect on learning development in the NHL. The ending note on Canuck development is why perhaps you are struggling to understand.

Try to expand with the concept of situational diversity. Every team has a different set of circumstance for opportunity and need. This is where development cross over exists between league stages to NHL and it is not finite. Thus, it's not realistic to put the subjective measure of "proper" as that so easily gets lost in perceived perspective.

You can admonish your dislike of certain player performance. But that blanket proposal of where players belong isn't the remedy nor the source of malady for most.