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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 2:18 PM ET
Closer to some elite talent good sir. I dont disagree with Elliot being probably the best option they were left with, but as an organization thats the corner they put themselves in willingly.
- flyer_nutter


Again a contradiction. Signing Elliott is an indication that they are rebuilding which is what you claim you want them to do. Yet you complain about it and repeatedly post the fallacy in asking the question if all 30 teams would take Elliott as a ridiculous attempt to discredit the move.
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 29 @ 2:19 PM ET
So with the Flyers 30th ranked PK, you would suggest that the Flyers play more of a undisciplined game and take more penalties?
- MJL


I'm simply curious how you could actually back up the broad claim full of inaccuracies that the PK issues are merely a matter of personnel...

Tried to use the typical patronizing, elitist and deflective language you use there to make it more understandable for you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 2:20 PM ET
I'm simply curious how you could actually back up the broad claim full of inaccuracies that the PK issues are merely a matter of personnel...

Tried to use the typical patronizing, elitist and deflective language you use there to make it more understandable for you.

- Lip_Out



When you're ready to have an actual conversation about it without the latter, let me know. Not until.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
Closer to some elite talent good sir. I dont disagree with Elliot being probably the best option they were left with, but as an organization thats the corner they put themselves in willingly.
- flyer_nutter


The question was good signing. Not excellent signing. Elliott has got this team around 15 points they probably didn't deserve so far. He was also brought in to fill a hole while the rebuild happens ... that's right the rebuild that everyone says should have been over by now won't be over for 2 more years and that was Hextall's focus from day 1. You want to know the last piece reaching the roster that finishes his plan? Carter Hart or Felix Sandstrom. Who gets the Flyers to them Brian Elliott who's been damn good this year at a position this team has a history of flopping at finding the right fit for. I'll say that was a good signing.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 29 @ 2:21 PM ET
I would have taken a shot at the question if I had any idea what it said.
- MBFlyerfan


lol
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
Trying hard not to give any spoilers. I found one of the cities they visited to be kind of a waste of time. The overall story was kind of meh, along with some new "force elements" they added. The writing wasn't great.

Entertaining though.

- flyer_nutter



that's all I ask for personally
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
When you're ready to have an actual conversation about it without the latter, let me know. Not until.
- MJL


You get challenged on a claim you can't back up and you cower behind flippant elitism.. Pattern much?

Why do you even come here?
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:23 PM ET
I'm simply curious how you could actually back up the broad claim full of inaccuracies that the PK issues are merely a matter of personnel...

Tried to use the typical patronizing, elitist and deflective language you use there to make it more understandable for you.

- Lip_Out


It's a combo of personnel and coaching (coaching that again Hakstol has a hand in but it's not the commanding hand). No matter what the issue is as a head coach if my PK (frank)ING sucked as much as this teams does do you think I'm accepting stupid penalties like Patrick took last night when he's to a key piece of my team going forward?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
The question was good signing. Not excellent signing. Elliott has got this team around 15 points they probably didn't deserve so far. He was also brought in to fill a hole while the rebuild happens ... that's right the rebuild that everyone says should have been over by now won't be over for 2 more years and that was Hextall's focus from day 1. You want to know the last piece reaching the roster that finishes his plan? Carter Hart or Felix Sandstrom. Who gets the Flyers to them Brian Elliott who's been damn good this year at a position this team has a history of flopping at finding the right fit for. I'll say that was a good signing.
- dragonoffrost



speaking of, I am going to feel quite dirty rooting for Canada today.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
You get challenged on a claim you can't back up and you cower behind flippant elitism.. Pattern much?

Why do you even come here?

- Lip_Out


You obviously aren't ready to have a conversation with this tone. Who says I can't back it up? You? When you're ready let me know. I'm ready to have an adult conversation on the Flyers PK.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 29 @ 2:24 PM ET
Dahlin

Svech

Zadina


Come to me my children

- Mordecai

The 6 game win streak saw that ship sail
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
speaker of, I am going to feel quite dirty rooting for Canada today.
- nastyflyergirl


As do I but ....

Help us Carter Hart ... you're our biggest hope!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
It's a combo of personnel and coaching (coaching that again Hakstol has a hand in but it's not the commanding hand). No matter what the issue is as a head coach if my PK (frank)ING sucked as much as this teams does do you think I'm accepting stupid penalties like Patrick took last night when he's to a key piece of my team going forward?
- dragonoffrost


Apparently you'll accept them from vets, but not from kids.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
The 6 game win streak saw that ship sail
- Giroux_Is_God



13 to 2
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
The question was good signing. Not excellent signing. Elliott has got this team around 15 points they probably didn't deserve so far. He was also brought in to fill a hole while the rebuild happens ... that's right the rebuild that everyone says should have been over by now won't be over for 2 more years and that was Hextall's focus from day 1. You want to know the last piece reaching the roster that finishes his plan? Carter Hart or Felix Sandstrom. Who gets the Flyers to them Brian Elliott who's been damn good this year at a position this team has a history of flopping at finding the right fit for. I'll say that was a good signing.
- dragonoffrost


I dont disagree with Elliot being a good signing for where the organization found itself.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 29 @ 2:25 PM ET
As do I but ....

Help us Carter Hart ... you're our biggest hope!

- dragonoffrost


After what Luke Kunin did last year, go Canada!
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Apparently you'll accept them from vets, but not from kids.
- jmatchett383


Right now from vets who should be gone when I am relying on Patrick sure... haven't I called for benching Jake for lazy play?
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 2:26 PM ET
Apparently you'll accept them from vets, but not from kids.
- jmatchett383


Hak imo is clearly coaching for his life after that 10 game losing streak.
Lip_Out
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Kalamazoo, NT
Joined: 11.03.2017

Dec 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
You obviously aren't ready to have a conversation with this tone. Who says I can't back it up? You?

- MJL


Truth says you can't back it up.

And your longstanding behavioral patterns of deflection and avoidance.

I can tolerate someone making really bad claims often (like you) but someone who hides behind them and doesn't back them up (also you) that's pathetic.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
13 to 2
- nastyflyergirl

If that happens again I'll kiss PLind on the lips
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 29 @ 2:27 PM ET
If that happens again I'll kiss PLind on the lips
- Giroux_Is_God


I know he's not, but can you imagine if Plind was some 25 year old attractive chick?

My god
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Dec 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
I know he's not, but can you imagine if Plind was some 25 year old attractive chick?

My god

- flyer_nutter

Than I'd definitely kiss Plind on the lips
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
I dont disagree with Elliot being a good signing for where the organization found itself.
- flyer_nutter


Not all signings have to be for the now... I hate to say it but I believe Hextall is pulling a Hinkie without the bravado. He knew signing the people he did wouldn't make them competitive but would fill the gaps until he could filter in the prospects little by little to form a team that is what he envisions. I just hope he's right in doing it that way.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
Truth says you can't back it up.

And your longstanding behavioral patterns of deflection and avoidance.

I can tolerate someone making really bad claims often (like you) but someone who hides behind them and doesn't back them up (also you) that's pathetic.

- Lip_Out


I'm ready to have the conversation. You're obviously not. You should go back to bolding words in my posts.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 29 @ 2:29 PM ET
Hak imo is clearly coaching for his life after that 10 game losing streak.
- flyer_nutter


Wouldn't you be?
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