Yep... Marner and Nylander...both have rode the pine for the same reasons Hakstol is vilified for.
- dragonoffrost

Nobody disputes that though. At times it happens.

In the big picture, is Hakstol a good NHL coach at present time? I'd say no but this is largely pointless as we dont have much of a say as fans. Only if those ticket sales continue to fall.

I'd need more than that in a trade of Simmonds. I would need a quality young NHL ready player in return with the first for Simmonds.
- MJL

That's what a meant as decent prospect, sorry for the confusion , but yeah I agree. I just think that with 3 firsts if they do trade Simmonds they Flyers need to make a big splash. The last thing I want to see is them be conservative with the picks and just draft 3 prospects.

Nobody disputes that though. At times it happens.

In the big picture, is Hakstol a good NHL coach at present time? I'd say no but this is largely pointless as we dont have much of a say as fans. Only if those ticket sales continue to fall.
- flyer_nutter

I don't think Hak starts the next season as the Flyers coach, just my gut feeling.

I think some blame can be placed on both parties, I mean Florida isn't one of the best teams in the league but they can be a good team and the Flyers aren't really in a position where they should be taking any team lightly at all. The players should have came out with some jump in their strides last night but instead we see the opposite of that. Part of me thinks though that Hak should have used a time out after they went down 2-0 at least, not sure why he never uses his timeout in a situation like that when they are already losing. Might as well try and turn the tide.
- FreshFlyer

The time out thing is kind of small in the big picture, but I would love to see if someone kept a stat for how often NHL coaches use it. For the last 2-3 years I'd bet my other testicle Hak is near the bottom.

I don't think Hak starts the next season as the Flyers coach, just my gut feeling.
- FreshFlyer

Hmmm. Even assuming they miss the playoffs, I think he does. Will be pleasantly surprised if he doesnt.

Now get ready to be scared. Who does Hextall hire to replace him? Lappy? Gordon? Sutter? Knob?

Now the scariest of all - Guy Boucher.

Nobody disputes that though. At times it happens.

In the big picture, is Hakstol a good NHL coach at present time? I'd say no but this is largely pointless as we dont have much of a say as fans. Only if those ticket sales continue to fall.
- flyer_nutter

You dispute it all the time. You repeatedly say that Hakstol does not handle young players correctly.

If I'm the Flyers I'm saying bye to Simmonds and Filppula at the deadline. They can surely get a 1st and a decent prospect for Simmonds. Not sure what they can get for Flip but I'd assume at least a 2nd or potentially a late first, depending on how desperate a team may be for some scoring depth. If you make that Simmonds deal, Hextall has 3, 1st rounders to work with at the draft and with that you can definitely make some big trades, either to move up or acquire an impact established player. The Flyers need to make the playoffs next season or I'm not sure what to think of Hextall or his tenure so far.
- FreshFlyer

I think most would agree that Hextall’s Flyers will have to show some improvement over the next calendar year and there will have to be continued growth for a lot of the prospects that the Flyers are banking their future on. I’m an optimist I think both will happen.

That's what a meant as decent prospect, sorry for the confusion , but yeah I agree. I just think that with 3 firsts if they do trade Simmonds they Flyers need to make a big splash. The last thing I want to see is them be conservative with the picks and just draft 3 prospects.
- FreshFlyer

My reasoning for that is that at some point the Flyers need to move forward. If they keep trading their best players for future draft picks that just keeps pushing the time frame back. We're 3 years in now to the rebuild. They need to take some more steps forward.

always liked Makar

The time out thing is kind of small in the big picture, but I would love to see if someone kept a stat for how often NHL coaches use it. For the last 2-3 years I'd bet my other testicle Hak is near the bottom.
- flyer_nutter

Hakstol is the worst of everything among NHL coaches including timeouts.

The use of the timeout has changed with the advent of coaches challenges.

The time out thing is kind of small in the big picture, but I would love to see if someone kept a stat for how often NHL coaches use it. For the last 2-3 years I'd bet my other testicle Hak is near the bottom.
- flyer_nutter

I'd bet the same, he rarely uses them mid game, only if they are looking for an empty net goal at the end of the game usually.

Hmmm. Even assuming they miss the playoffs, I think he does. Will be pleasantly surprised if he doesnt.

Now get ready to be scared. Who does Hextall hire to replace him? Lappy? Gordon? Sutter? Knob?

Now the scariest of all - Guy Boucher.
- flyer_nutter

Do you seriously think that Lappariere would be a candidate to take over as head coach?

Mittelstadt is soooooooo good

Mittelstadt is soooooooo good
- Mordecai

That US team is small.

Reminds me a bit of the Sabres era with Briere/Drury. Fun to watch but little undersized. Seemed that way a bit from some of the highlights I caught yesterday.

Hmmm. Even assuming they miss the playoffs, I think he does. Will be pleasantly surprised if he doesnt.

Now get ready to be scared. Who does Hextall hire to replace him? Lappy? Gordon? Sutter? Knob?

Now the scariest of all - Guy Boucher.
- flyer_nutter

That US team is small.

Reminds me a bit of the Sabres era with Briere/Drury. Fun to watch but little undersized. Seemed that way a bit from some of thr highlights I caught yesterday.
- flyer_nutter

i just want to see our golden boy Hart make some sweet saves

i have team Sweden going all the way this year and i think Russia will surprise people. Klim Kostin and Svechnikov are just too good together.

i just want to see our golden boy Hart make some sweet saves

i have team Sweden going all the way this year and i think Russia will surprise people. Klim Kostin and Svechnikov are just too good together.
- Mordecai

I'd like to see Hart dominate. There are a lot of goaltenders that win games for their countries at this tournament. Its sloppy at times but hopefully he comes up big.

i think i've mentioned it before but i get pretty excited for the WJC's.

especially because the Flyers suck right now

Do you seriously think that Lappariere would be a candidate to take over as head coach?
- MJL

I see none of those he named as the coach. Don't ask me who besides Hakstol would be on my list right now for the coach next season. I wouldn't be shocked if Hakstol is still here or if he's gone.

i think i've mentioned it before but i get pretty excited for the WJC's.

especially because the Flyers suck right now
- Mordecai

Its basically the opposite of Vanilla hockey. I still stand by the notion that the officiating is a hell of a lot better too.

*I'm not done with you yet*

I'd wager there is for sure some kind of abuse going on at that home. Emotional or physical. No way there isn't.

- Bonerfide69

No and no to Ted Nolan also

Simmonds has 1.5 years of his contract left. GMs covet him, but you wait until the offseason and his value only goes down. Teams aren't trading high end established NHLers for a 30 year old with 1 year left on his deal. 2 guaranteed playoff runs make a difference. But of course the Flyers aren't out of it yet! We won't officially know if they'll miss until April.

Your best bet is either an underrated almost NHL ready player and/or a top half first, depending on if we add a little sometin' sometin'. 1 year ago I bet we could've gotten Boeser+ for Simmonds. Not now. Not even close. That's what happens when players are in the NHL. People can ask for the moon, but reality does get in the way. Either like that......or don't and re-sign him to a questionable 6 year deal.

Simmonds has 1.5 years of his contract left. GMs covet him, but you wait until the offseason and his value only goes down. Teams aren't trading high end established NHLers for a 30 year old with 1 year left on his deal. 2 guaranteed playoff runs make a difference. But of course the Flyers aren't out of it yet! We won't officially know if they'll miss until April.

Your best bet is either an underrated almost NHL ready player and/or a top half first, depending on if we add a little sometin' sometin'. People can ask for the moon, but reality does get in the way.
- Mononoke

Give me Connor and I’ll give you a little somethin somethin.

Give me Connor and I’ll give you a little somethin somethin.
- flyer_nutter

I don't think Winnipeg would be interested in trading a 21 year old established NHL winger for a 30 year old one tbh. Of course that would be a trade I'd be all over.

That's what I'm talking about though. Last year you could do that trade MAYBE. Now that he's established his value goes way up. If you want to find a young gem for a flawed, 29 year old turning 30, 55-60 point PWF you have to do more leg work than ask for already quality, young, high end potential NHL players because teams won't trade them. Trading for a mid 1st to draft Barzal is easier than trading for Barzal. Picks+prospects probably are the only real route, and of course that team would have to both be presently bad enough to have a good pick/prospects........and be good enough where they think Simmonds can help them win in the next 2 years.