Laviolette was a great coach that has confidence in his vouching system. He's seen a Cup Final before, after and during us. Firing him was a mistake, especially if he was really asked to "tweek" his system in favor of Luke Schenn and Nick Grossmann, two players we traded for during his stint.
- SuperSchennBros

Square pegs will fit if you keep up the mucking and the grinding and werk herd

Like I said before, they're the Mets of hockey.

Exactly. It's why I would have moved G back to center and Flip to left wing, to at least see if you could get some secondary scoring.
- VladDrag

I don't think that would even help much. Either Coots or G would have Voracek on the wing and that would be the line that scores. The other center would still struggle without at least one dynamic winger to compliment him.

Plus, Giroux is having his best season since 13-14. I think the move to LW has been great for him.

Like I said before, they're the Mets of hockey.
- hereticpride

Cowboys of the nhl

The issue facing this team is so painfully obvious. I guess since it is an inconvenient truth with no easy answers, no one wants to address it.

Giroux and Voracek, while they have put up points and have had a solid year so far, are lousy leaders of a hockey team.

Only choice in my opinion at this point is to throw away the core. It’s rotten.

Obtained footage from last night at about 10:15PM.


- hockeylover

I tried to not laugh.

I failed.

Defense wins championships, sir.

lol
- Scoob

😂 only if you can score enough.

The issue facing this team is so painfully obvious. I guess since it is an inconvenient truth with no easy answers, no one wants to address it.

Giroux and Voracek, while they have put up points and have had a solid year so far, are lousy leaders of a hockey team.

Only choice in my opinion at this point is to throw away the core. It’s rotten.
- StepfordSam

Your top scorers don't have to be leaders. I agree this team needs more leadership but putting it all on them isn't fair. When we went to the cup in 2010 we had a whole mess of leaders in that locker room and I highly doubt anyone recognized Jeff Carter as one of them.

The issue facing this team is so painfully obvious. I guess since it is an inconvenient truth with no easy answers, no one wants to address it.

Giroux and Voracek, while they have put up points and have had a solid year so far, are lousy leaders of a hockey team.

Only choice in my opinion at this point is to throw away the core. It’s rotten.
- StepfordSam

Your top scorers don't have to be leaders. I agree this team needs more leadership but putting it all on them isn't fair. When we went to the cup in 2010 we had a whole mess of leaders in that locker room and I highly doubt anyone recognized Jeff Carter as one of them.
- Tfaehner

What about your top paid players? Does the player wearing the C have to be a leader?

I don't think that would even help much. Either Coots or G would have Voracek on the wing and that would be the line that scores. The other center would still struggle without at least one dynamic winger to compliment him.

Plus, Giroux is having his best season since 13-14. I think the move to LW has been great for him.
- BiggE

I really hope they put Patrick with Jake to start tonight and see if it can work. I think Patrick just might have pissed his chance away with that dumb penalty though.

Cowboys of the nhl
- Just5

More like the Jets.

Cowboys actually won something while I was alive.

I really hope they put Patrick with Jake to start tonight and see if it can work. I think Patrick just might have pissed his chance away with that dumb penalty though.
- dragonoffrost

Hak rewards dumb players all the time. He's golden now.

The issue facing this team is so painfully obvious. I guess since it is an inconvenient truth with no easy answers, no one wants to address it.

Giroux and Voracek, while they have put up points and have had a solid year so far, are lousy leaders of a hockey team.

Only choice in my opinion at this point is to throw away the core. It’s rotten.
- StepfordSam

You nailed it the issue is they are trying to play hockey with core math!

Weise on the power play last night was inexcusable. I'm done with Hak even though the team's problems have been going on for years before him. His line combos make no sense. I can't remember who said Konency looks like he's running from a tsunami but that's the way the whole team looks. Everything is frantic, plays are forced, players sending pucks to no one. Not a good place for kids to learn.
- SimmerDown17

Fans keep wanting Hakstol to paint a Rembrandt with water color paints. I have no problem putting a big body to crash the net and work the corners on the 2nd PP unit. It's not as if they've been lighting it up.. Although I would personally choose Raffl over Weise.

Obtained footage from last night at about 10:15PM.


- hockeylover

Is this the moment when MacDonald got the 6 year 30 million dollar contract from Homey Da Clown??

13 points behind the Devils. Non-competitive.

Your top scorers don't have to be leaders. I agree this team needs more leadership but putting it all on them isn't fair. When we went to the cup in 2010 we had a whole mess of leaders in that locker room and I highly doubt anyone recognized Jeff Carter as one of them.
- Tfaehner

True.

I think the guy they miss most of all is Timonen. He wasn't the most outspoken guy, but he was universally respected and when he did have something to say, they shut up and listened.

Kimmo has basically been gone since the start of the 14-15 season and lets look at the results since:

14-15 missed the playoffs; fired Berube, hired Hakstol

15-16 squeaked in as the 8th seed, played their hearts out trying to get in for a dying Ed Snider, sadly, we haven't seen that kind of heart or emotion from this team since.

16-17 missed the playoffs

17-18 are probably going to miss the playoffs

18-19 ???

The jury is still out on Ron Hextall, and rightfully so. On paper, his drafts look great, but until more of his picks come in and become impact players, you just can't really judge him yet. His hand picked head coach has been so-so at best and he's not done a particularly good job at signing free agents. He's done a good job of moving bad contracts, and we'll see in a few years if the Schenn trade pans out.

I will say this much though. If this team misses the playoffs this year and next, Hextall's job needs to be dependent on not just getting in, but being a team that can legitimately win a round or 2 by 19-20. Most of us have been pretty patient so far, but there has to be a limit to that patience.

Weise on the power play last night was inexcusable. I'm done with Hak even though the team's problems have been going on for years before him. His line combos make no sense. I can't remember who said Konency looks like he's running from a tsunami but that's the way the whole team looks. Everything is frantic, plays are forced, players sending pucks to no one. Not a good place for kids to learn.
- SimmerDown17

holy hell that was ridiculous

I really hope they put Patrick with Jake to start tonight and see if it can work. I think Patrick just might have pissed his chance away with that dumb penalty though.
- dragonoffrost

Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of too.

Is this the moment when MacDonald got the 6 year 30 million dollar contract from Homey Da Clown??

13 points behind the Devils. Non-competitive.
- PLindbergh31

Inept, laughable, a joke of a franchise I tell you!!

#Vegaswinscupb4flyers

Is this the moment when MacDonald got the 6 year 30 million dollar contract from Homey Da Clown??

13 points behind the Devils. Non-competitive.
- PLindbergh31

Last night one of the true goons you can count on one hand left standing in the league drew a penalty on our #2 overall savior. Things are right on track.

Fans keep wanting Hakstol to paint a Rembrandt with water color paints. I have no problem putting a big body to crash the net and work the corners on the 2nd PP unit. It's not as if they've been lighting it up.. Although I would personally choose Raffl over Weise.
- MJL

And I think that is the point some are trying to make. A big body is fine, but not Weise. Raffl is out there hustling, dropping the gloves and he's even scored some goals recently. There is no way that Weise should be getting pp time ahead of him. If it was up to me, I'd shake it up even more on the 2nd unit and go with Provy and Sanheim on the points and Patrick, Raffl and Konecny down low.

Plainly stated, this team just isn't a very skilled team.

Apart from Provy and Ghost, the defense cannot make consistent crisp breakout passes, or if they do, apart from the first line, the forwards cannot accept the pass. This lack of skill makes them look 'flat', but in my view it's about not being skilled enough.

The younger players haven't yet developed to the speed of the NHL. You can see the potential in flashes from the youth in the lineup, but they are not consistent. They make these mistakes because they don't play enough to get used to the speed. Again, it makes them look 'flat'. The coach then says, you can't play at this level yet, so you aren't getting time. I don't agree with it, but I understand why Patrick gets the treatment he does.

The veterans on this team add very little as well. Guys like Weise and McDonald are being asked to contribute too much, which is exposing them, making them look bad, again making the team look 'flat'.

I think a lot of people looked at TOR last season and said, no reason we can't do that. But not every team has a Matthews, Marner, Nylander. Those player all possess elite skill levels.

The good news: The younger players are going thru growing pains required to become NHL regulars. They will be better off for it next season. Being one of the younger teams in the NHL, this type of season isn't really unexpected.

Inept, laughable, a joke of a franchise I tell you!!

#Vegaswinscupb4flyers
- hockeylover

Try and cover up a dogpoop product with pissant sarcasm all you want.

Last night one of the true goons you can count on one hand left standing in the league drew a penalty on our #2 overall savior. Things are right on track.
- Just5

The number # 2 picks of the previous two years were Eichel and Laine. Patrick is tied with Rinaldo 2 goals.